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  • Film Review: Sam Bradford

    After throwing my back out this weekend, I've had a lot of time to review film of Sam Bradford on YouTube. Here's what I observed:

    Delivery/Release
    Bradford has a very quick delivery. He does not have a pure, over-the-top throwing motion and, at times, drops to a 3/4 release point. However, his motion is very compact, and he has no "tell" (i.e. long wind-up, telegraphing direction of throws).

    Accuracy
    Definitely his strong suit. He shows the ability to hit receivers in stride, allowing for a lot of YAC. He also shows great touch on fade patterns, and throws to the back of the end zone.

    Deep Ball
    I was struck by how few deep throws are represented in Bradford's highlight films. Perhaps this is due, in part, to the style of offense he played in. On the few deep balls I observed, Bradford's spiral was less than perfect, but his accuracy was still very good.

    Arm Strength
    As stated, not a lot of strong deep ball evidence to call Bradford a "strong armed" QB. That said, his mid-range (15-25 yard) throws were typically thrown on a rope, even when thrown to the sideline. I'd say he has better arm strenth than, say, Chad Pennington, but he's not going to beat Jay Cutler in a distance contest.

    Footwork
    Another strong point. Bradford slides in the pocket very well without getting happy feet. He is also exceptional at squaring his body quickly to avoid throws off the back foot, even when rolling out. He's not fast, and isn't a guy looking to run the ball, but he is a guy who can pick up yards when the pocket breaks down.

    In sum, I like what I saw. Granted, I was watching highlight films, not game films, but there is no shortage of evidence of strong skills. In terms of overall style and ability, I still look at Bradford as being comparable to Kurt Warner. He has many of the same skills, as well as limitations. Whether he has that extra "it" factor that Kurt had... that I can't tell you from watching highlight films.

    However, I can conclusively state that he is considerably more impressive than Jimmy Clausen and Tony Pike (both of whom I say play several times this year), and clearly has better overall tools than Dan LeFevour and Colt McCoy (who I also saw quite a bit of last year).

    In case you are wondering, Suh is still at the top of my draft board. But its closer than ever now.

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    Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

    Excellent review. Your analysis seems to fit with what I've been hearing from other sources.

    Well from most until recently when Scott Wright has come out and said that the Rams should absolutely NOT pick Bradford. He even compared him to a potential Tim Couch.

    I like most of what Wright says but maybe he is being overly cautious here.

    BTW how is your back feeling?


    WHAT SAY YE?

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      Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

      Also, if you watch his highlight reel the majority of all his big plays come from the shotgun with lots of YAC yards by his athletes.

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        Originally posted by RAMarkable View Post
        BTW how is your back feeling?
        Still not 100%, but on the mend. Thanks for asking.

        Originally posted by richtree
        Also, if you watch his highlight reel the majority of all his big plays come from the shotgun with lots of YAC yards by his athletes.
        That is definitely true, but you can't discount the value of hitting players in stride. I think this is one of the areas in which Marc Bulger has really declined. During his better years (2002-2006) he did a good job of delivering the ball in a place that allowed for YAC. In recent years (2007-2009) his throws, though catchable, have often forced receivers to break stride. The result is a much lower yards/attempt average.

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          Yesterday on NFL Network Mike Mayock in a discussion of top tier QB's mentioned that Sam has played under center more than many football draft analysts are willing to admit.

          That is a very reassuring thought as the biggest transition a spread QB in college makes to the NFL is that foot motion (drop), eyes (downfield vision) and playfakes (handing-off/not to a RB).

          AV, I still agree Suh is atop my board, but Sam Bradford is starting to make a lot of sense with our #1 pick. My biggest concern is how we mentor and tutor him once he arrives. Who will coach him? Glad to hear your back is feeling better.

          Go Rams!

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            Originally posted by mde8352gorams View Post
            AV, I still agree Suh is atop my board, but Sam Bradford is starting to make a lot of sense with our #1 pick. My biggest concern is how we mentor and tutor him once he arrives.
            That's a tough call. In recent years, QBs taken early (Ryan, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez) have started as rookies. While I would hope that Bradford would get some PT as a rookie, I'm not sure I'd want him open the year under center. At least wait until the O line gels a bit.

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              Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

              I heard a stat that in his Freshman season Bradford lined up under center more than 50% of the time when passing (more when they ran the ball). In his Soph season it was almost 50%. The idea that he lines up almost exclusively in the shotgun is very wrong.

              I think Av hit the point. His accuracy is premier - comparable to Peyton Manning. His arm strength is considered average. That's a better combo than the reverse which is what Stafford is at. In the NFL premier QBs hit their receivers in stride and on the correct shoulder.

              I also agree that this is where Bulger has failed recently. When he was in his prime, Marc was probably the best QB in the league at hitting WRs on out routes. That has degraded to where they now no longer run the route with much success.

              Suh is great but so is Bradford. I'm personally sick of drafting DTs in the first round.

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                Docs still need to clear his shoulder though. I mean he didnt throw at the draft, than canceled pro day and now he says he'll workout privately for teams. Its all fine with me cause you should not rush shoulder injury but at some point before the draft he needs to show that his arm is 100% and he can make all the throws that coaches ans scouts ask him to.

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                  Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

                  Originally posted by thermobee View Post
                  canceled pro day and now he says he'll workout privately for teams.
                  That's not accurate.

                  Bradford advised teams well in advance of Oklahoma's Pro Day that he would not throw until his private workout on March 25. He didn't "cancel" anything.

                  He definitely needs to show that his arm has recovered, but there is nothing to read into the fact that he has not done so yet.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

                    All he had was a sprain. If he had lost cartilage or tore some tendons, I'd be worried. He's been throwing for 2 months already in private workouts. He commented at the combine that he was at 85% strength and didn't have any swelling or discomfort. That's when the talking all changed. If true, I can't imagine the Rams passing on him. Imagine if they draft him and then hold him out of that first mini-camp.

                    Bernie said that Devaney told him the Rams would have James Andrews, the Rams joint surgeon and an independent surgeon all do an evaluation of his shoulder.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

                      I'd still like to see some film of whole games. Any QB on a team of that caliber will have a good highlight reel. It's how he responded to a blown play,INT or near INT or sack or blitz that interests me as well as getting a feel for how he handles himself through the flow of a game. Not to mention seeing how he has progressed since he was recruited.

                      Everything else about the guy seems Hollywood-perfect; good student, respected leader,etc.

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                        Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                        Bernie said that Devaney told him the Rams would have James Andrews, the Rams joint surgeon and an independent surgeon all do an evaluation of his shoulder.
                        Hopefully that's a different James Andrews than the one who actually did Bradford's surgery. Otherwise, not that independent.

                        Anyways, I agree that there is a lot to like about what Bradford brings to the table as a passer. He's incredibly accurate, he has a strong enough arm, I'm not particularly worried about his transition from Oklahoma's offense to a West Coast system, I think he's probably more mobile than most would give him credit for, and he seems like an intelligent team player who makes good decisions. There's certainly no denying that he has a significant amount of skill.

                        My biggest hang-up is the durability. Not being able to finish a college season without some kind of injury is a concern when trying to project how he'll hold up at the next level. Sadly, as good as the YouTube video of him may be, it isn't going to eliminate that concern.

                        I'd still prefer Suh, and I'm not sure I see that changing before the draft. But if Bradford is the pick, I will certainly understand. I will buy the jersey and cheer my heart out that he proves my concerns wrong. I really hope that if the Rams draft him, he goes on to have a Favre-like streak of consecutive starts, and helps lead this team into a new period of success.

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                          Re: Film Review: Sam Bradford

                          Originally posted by Nick View Post
                          Hopefully that's a different James Andrews than the one who actually did Bradford's surgery. Otherwise, not that independent.

                          Anyways, I agree that there is a lot to like about what Bradford brings to the table as a passer. He's incredibly accurate, he has a strong enough arm, I'm not particularly worried about his transition from Oklahoma's offense to a West Coast system, I think he's probably more mobile than most would give him credit for, and he seems like an intelligent team player who makes good decisions. There's certainly no denying that he has a significant amount of skill.

                          My biggest hang-up is the durability. Not being able to finish a college season without some kind of injury is a concern when trying to project how he'll hold up at the next level. Sadly, as good as the YouTube video of him may be, it isn't going to eliminate that concern.

                          I'd still prefer Suh, and I'm not sure I see that changing before the draft. But if Bradford is the pick, I will certainly understand. I will buy the jersey and cheer my heart out that he proves my concerns wrong. I really hope that if the Rams draft him, he goes on to have a Favre-like streak of consecutive starts, and helps lead this team into a new period of success.
                          amen....

                          this team needs to climb out of the basement and get back ontop of the NFC west !!!! over the seahawks and whiners!!!! (screw the cards theyve blown up) GOO RAMSSS:helmet:
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                              Hopefully that's a different James Andrews than the one who actually did Bradford's surgery
                              Nope. That'd be the one and the same.
                              The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                              • xkidflowx
                                Sam Bradford Arm Strength.?
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                                What do you guys think of it ? i was just looking at some of his highlights and saw people's comments and they are definitely hating on him.. and they saw he doesnt have the Deep ball it takes for the league ..

                                When i see his deep balls , they have no ZIP into it.. they stay in the air for quite awhile.. but wen he throws 10-20 yarders they have the quickest zip i've seen in awhile...

                                so what are your guys thoughts about his arm strength? i just hope he isnt a Chad Pennington .. all accuracy no arm .
                                -02-10-2011, 11:52 AM
                              • Rambos
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                                by Rambos
                                Cosell Talks: Sam Bradford
                                by Greg Cosell

                                The last couple of weeks, I have written about Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Matthew Stafford and Cam Newton. This week, I will continue to spotlight the quarterback position, focusing on two young players who detoured in 2011 after strong seasons in 2010. Sam Bradford set an NFL record for most completions by a rookie quarterback (the previous mark was held by Peyton Manning). Josh Freeman threw 25 touchdown passes and only six interceptions in his first full season as a starter. Both Bradford and Freeman had the look of soon-to-be-elite NFL quarterbacks. It did not work out that way last season.

                                Bradford came out of Oklahoma as the leagueís No. 1 overall pick. He was a polished passer in many areas: ball position on his drop, both from under center and in the shotgun; balance, with his feet quick yet unhurried; a strong plant with his back foot; excellent weight transfer as he delivered the ball; compact throwing motion, tight with powerful arm speed; and then most important of all attributes, precise and consistent in his ball location. What I really liked about Bradford was his ability to sit in the pocket on his back foot, then drive through his throws and deliver with velocity and accuracy. There was no question he was a top arm talent.

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                                As a rookie in 2010, Bradford exhibited many of these traits, plus a few others that were compelling indicators of NFL success. He was decisive in reading the blitz and getting the ball out quickly to the right receiver. He was firm in the pocket, willing to look down the gun barrel and make strong throws in the face of pressure. He had a refined sense of timing and anticipation, showing the ability to pull the trigger before his receivers came out of their breaks. All positives, and all quantifiable measures of top-level quarterback play in the NFL.

                                Bradford threw a red-zone touchdown pass to Brandon Gibson against the Seahawks in just his fourth NFL start that was as impressive as youíll see, for any quarterback. Visualize this: The Seahawks dropped eight defenders into coverage, significantly compressing the passing lanes. Consequently, sight lines were squeezed, but Bradford did two things that were special. First, he manipulated and moved the underneath coverage with his head and eyes, which opened a lane to deliver the ball. Secondly, he threw the ball well before Gibson broke inside, near the back of the end zone. Unbelievable anticipation and accuracy on a tight-window throw in the red zone. It was beautiful.

                                But Bradford certainly wasnít perfect in his rookie season. There were two particular areas where significant work was needed. There were times he was not comfortable in the pocket with bodies around him. Thatís a different trait than looking down the gun barrel. When the pocket closes down and functional space is reduced to throw cleanly and comfortably,...
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                              • BEER
                                Blog: Why Sam Bradford will be a bust.
                                by BEER
                                Wrote by some guy named Chris Cipriano.

                                The NFL Draft is the ultimate crap-shoot.
                                No matter how much scouting is done, there are bound to be busts.
                                From the first pick to the last pick, there is no guarantee that any player will live up to expectations.
                                Now earlier, I touched on which players from the 2010 NFL Draft I thought would be busts , but I left one player out.
                                I did this because this player is bigger than the rest. He has the most expectations of any other player in the draft. He was the number one overall pick. He is Sam Bradford, and he will be a bust in the NFL.
                                Now Iím not saying he will be on the JaMarcus Russell or Tim Couch level, but yet he wonít be on the Payton Manning level either. I see him more alike to David Carr or Alex Smith.
                                He simply has too many questions marks and too many things have to go right for him to be an elite NFL quarterback.
                                The first and most worrisome concern about Bradford is his durability. He hurt his throwing shoulder twice last season and needed surgery on it after he re-injured it.
                                Dr. James Andrews, who operated on Bradford, said his shoulder will be fine, but really what is he supposed to say? If he says he may be more vulnerable to further injury or it may never be as strong he will cost Bradford millions.
                                Even if it is fine, Iím sure Bradford will think twice before stepping up in the pocket to deliver that throw knowing his shoulder will be exposed to a possible injury.
                                Another concern is how we will transition from the spread offense he ran while at Oklahoma. Bradford rarely had to read defenses and coverageís and seldom went through more than read on each throw. And when he did go to his secondary reads his primary strength, his accuracy, dipped dramatically.
                                We have seen plenty of quarterbacks excel in the spread at Oklahoma and then go on to do nothing in the NFL (Jason White, Josh Huepel). White even won a Heisman like Bradford, and granted Bradford has an edge in psychical tools, but history isnít on his side.
                                I also have worries about the situation he is going into. While at Oklahoma, he was surrounded by NFL talent at all positions. In St. Louis, he is going to a team that has won six games in the past three seasons combined.
                                In college his offensive line was tremendous. He rarely faced pressure in face and he could stay back in the pocket and wait for his receivers to get open. He wonít have that luxury in St. Louis.
                                The Rams offensive line leaves a lot to be desired. They surrendered 44 sacks last season. Bradford doesnít have a good feel for pressure and I fear when he faces a NFL pass rush heíll panic and he never showed much ability to throw on the run and make plays with his feet. Iím afraid this could turn into a David Carr situation, where Bradford gets sacked so much his psyche is messed with.
                                Speaking of David...
                                -05-27-2010, 03:36 PM
                              • RebelYell
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                                by RebelYell
                                I'd like to note what WalterFootball has these negatives for Sam Bradford:

                                # Weaknesses:
                                1 Toughness really hasn't been tested at this point in his career; never seen pass rush
                                2 Arm strength is good, but he will struggle to fit ball in tight windows if he doesn't make very quick decisions
                                3 We really do not know if he can make throws on the run yet
                                4 Doesn't make any jaw-dropping throws
                                5 Doesn't have Stafford/Sanchez level of upside
                                6 Is never really forced out of pocket

                                So basically the weaknesses are that he
                                1. doesn't take enough sacks.
                                2 & 4. He doesn't throw into double and triple coverage enough to prove he has elite arm strength.
                                3 & 6. He gets rid of the ball so fast that he doesn't have to scramble enough to prove that he can. (literally his speed of delivery is now a negative)
                                5. Doesn't have the upside of Stafford's 54% completion %, 6TDs to 12 INTS and 59 passer rating. Note that the same guy said Sanchez had the same upside as Leinert but not the upside of Stafford. Are these insults or complements? The upside is more relative to arm strength than actually making good decisions and throwing an accurate pass I guess.

                                The horror this guy must be.
                                -11-20-2009, 01:31 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
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                                There's an old saying that "numbers don't lie."

                                That's true, to a degree, but you have to look at the right numbers.

                                Here are the two career stats that, in my opinion, define Sam Bradford as a QB.

                                Yards/Attempt: 6.2---Rank among active QBs: 36th (last)
                                Interception %: 2.2---Rank among active QBs: 3rd (tied)

                                So what does that tell us?

                                Sam Bradford is too conservative. He does not throw the ball down the field often enough. As a result, he is forced to manufacture long drives, and often has trouble cashing in when he reaches the Red Zone.

                                To his credit, he does not make a lot of mistakes. There are QBs who also rely on short passes, but throw many more interceptions than Bradford has in his career. Most of those guys are no longer starting QBs, though.

                                The question that flows from these stats is clear:

                                Why?

                                There are four potential reasons for this conservative approach. Here's how I evaluate them:

                                1. Offensive Scheme
                                Bradford has played in very conservative offensive schemes under at least two of his three OCs (Shurmur, Schottenheimer). I think its fair to question whether this is best type of system for Bradford. Its not as though he has a weak arm. To the contrary, he can "make all the throws" needed for a more open passing game. In fact, some of Bradford's best moments have come when he has been allowed to "open up" the offense in no-huddle and two-minute situations. Conclusion: Primary culprit.

                                2. Offensive Line
                                Bradford has played behind some very poor O lines during his 3+ years in the NFL. As a result, he has often had to hurry his throws and rely on quick patterns. Still, even when Bradford has had good protection, his YPA numbers have been mediocre, at best. While O line play is a factor, I think it may be a bit overstated. Conclusion: Marginally contributing factor.

                                3. Receivers
                                Bradford has not had the benefit of playing with an established #1 WR at any point in his career. He also has not had the benefit of playing with receivers who have great YAC numbers (though the hope is that Tavon Austin will become one). This has clearly impacted his YPA numbers. Still, other QBs with weak receiving corps have put up much better numbers in this category, so I'm not ready to put this factor at the top of the list. Conclusion: Contributing factor.

                                4. Bradford Himself
                                When I look at Bradford, I see a QB with a lot of talent. He has a good arm, and has above-average accuracy. He is more athletic than many realize, and has shown the ability to use his feet to extend plays at times. But I've come to the conclusion that the thing he lacks is not something that one can observe in a workout. He's NOT fearless. Fearless QBs stand in the pocket defiantly, ignore the rush, go through their progressions, and check down only when necessary....
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