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  • The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

    ... the more impressed I am with Golden Tate.

    Its almost shocking how often Clausen heaved the ball from his back foot only to be bailed out by Tate. Those kind of throws won't work in the NFL on a consistent basis.

    If the Rams took Suh in the first round and Clausen somehow fell to #33, I would consider taking a shot on him. Otherwise... not interested.

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    Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

    It's what I have been saying since the offseason. At first I really wanted Clausen, because he came from pro style, and had weis as the coach. However when you look at game footage, Tate bails Clausen out of half the throws he makes. If there was a WR for the rams to grab in the second, it would be Tate by far.

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    • #3
      Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

      That's why I have him in my mock.

      Tate is underrated, and most people think Clausen makes Tate look good. In reality, Tate makes Clausen look good.

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        I think saying HALF of Clausen's throws is exaggerated naturally but I will admit he does make some ridiculous catches and escapes to bail out Clausen at times AND to turn completions into to Touchdowns. At the top of the second I'd love either Best or Tate. I'd probably die of pure joy if we pulled off Bradford and Tate...

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        • #5
          Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

          Originally posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View Post
          I think saying HALF of Clausen's throws is exaggerated naturally
          Maybe a little ;)

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          • #6
            Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

            Tate was no question the best player on the field in all of NDs games, no question, and I've made this point before, but the Clausen supporters don't want to hear it.

            Its too bad Golden won't last till the second

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            • #7
              Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

              Just out of curiousity AV, how does all this film watching make you feel about Clausen?

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              • #8
                Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                Unsubstantiated balderdash,imo. I think there are good arguments for not taking Clausen but Tate being the guy who made Clausen look good all on on his own is crazy talk.

                Clausen completed 695 passes in his 3 yr career at ND. Only 157 were to Tate. Clausen threw for 60 TDs. Only 26 were to Tate. Clausen threw for over 8000 yds. Only 2700 of it was to Tate, etc, etc.

                They had a great partnership, for sure, but who deserves quite a bit of credit for for all that production?

                Leprechauns ?
                Last edited by Azul e Oro; -03-17-2010, 11:34 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                  Originally posted by cfh128 View Post
                  Just out of curiousity AV, how does all this film watching make you feel about Clausen?
                  I saw a lot of things I did not like. The biggest is that Clausen seems to throw off his back foot quite a bit, particularly on deep throws. While he was able to get away with this last year in college (again, often due to Tate's abilities), that won't work in the pros.

                  Also, pull up his highlight films and watch him from the time the ball is snapped to the time he throws the ball. He often seems to lock down on one receiver, rather than scanning the field. Again, that won't work in the pro game.

                  I think he has some raw talent. His arm might even be above average, strength wise. He is also fearless, which can, in some situations, be a good thing.

                  No way do I see him as a No. 1 overall guy, though. I think I'd rate him as a late first round prospect.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                    Golden Tate is my choice for the second round. But he's moving up in all the rankings I see and I doubt he will be there at #33. Arrelious Benn seems to be falling and might be there. But I'm not sold on him.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                      Isnt Tate a 5'9" or 5'10" WR. We already have Avery, I dont think getting another one is going to help us. JMO but if we go WR in this draft I hope we get someone with decent size 6' + who can be physical at the line.

                      yeah Clausen in the 2nd is the most I would give, hes NOT a #1 contender, imo

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                      • #12
                        Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                        How many of the games you watched were after the injury? After injuring his toe, Clausen pretty dramatically changes his throwing motion. His accuracy was far less precise.

                        I don't mind Clausen physically. To me his negatives are all between the ears.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                          i did notice that whenever i see supposed "Clausen" highlights, he invariably hits Tate on a short pass who then makes people miss, breaks tackles and runs the ball in for the score
                          @EssexRam_

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                          • #14
                            Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                            If we get a chance to draft him at 33, i hope we pick him.
                            I believe he could play a bit of RB , and return kicks also.
                            A bigger version of Steve Smith of Carolina?

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                            • #15
                              Re: The more Jimmy Clausen film I watch...

                              Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
                              I saw a lot of things I did not like. The biggest is that Clausen seems to throw off his back foot quite a bit, particularly on deep throws. While he was able to get away with this last year in college (again, often due to Tate's abilities), that won't work in the pros.
                              Why not? Eli Manning has been making a pretty nice living doing just that.

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                                Saw this on Sportscenter. McShay vs. Kiper debating on where Clausen will get drafted. Kiper was praising Clausen, saying he is #4 on the big board and could go #1 overall.

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                              • Varg6
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                                For over a week, we've been speculating on which NFL team would draft Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen if he went pro. Take the "if" out of that equation now, because ESPN.com's Joe Schad is reporting that Clausen will declare for the draft. So was he pushed in that direction by some unruly fans? We got word from ESPN.com's Joe Schad on Tuesday that Clausen was decked in the face by a surly Notre Dame fan on Sunday morning. It certainly didn't help keep him in school.

                                Clausen is one of the more intriguing names on Mel Kiper Jr.'s Big Board, and some analysts think he could be the first QB drafted this April.

                                Here was Kiper last week on the teams that might be interested in the gunslinger:

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                                "Leaving all the coaching chatter aside, which could obviously affect his decision, Clausen could certainly be the top quarterback taken. I think he's certainly capable of going in the top 10 or 12, and remember, St. Louis might want a quarterback, Washington might want a quarterback, we're not sure if Oakland will draft one, but they're another team with a problem at the position. The struggles at Notre Dame you can't put on Clausen. He's been battered, particularly early on. But he can play the position and personnel people know it. Comparing him and [UW's Jake] Locker, for instance, Clausen is far more refined at this stage."

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                                -11-26-2009, 10:44 AM
                              • shower beers
                                Jimmy Clausen the best NFL-ready junior quarterback in league history
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                                Posted Dec. 29, 2009

                                Junior Quarterbacks - Jimmy Clausen

                                I bet you never thought in the past month that Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen is one of the most underappreciated quarterback prospects in the history of the NFL Draft. But after reading this blog entry, you just might change your mind.

                                First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen, and let's be real here, there is a lot of bias against him. Some criticism is warranted, but a lot isn't.

                                Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there. Think about it: if you put Sanchez on Notre Dame and Jimmy Clausen at USC, then Sanchez is the hated prospect and Clausen is the beloved underclassman.

                                Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him.

                                For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this blog entry.

                                Clausen just amassed one of the most impressive junior seasons among pro-style quarterbacks in the past 10-20 years.

                                Let's remember that Clausen had a very bad offensive line this year for Notre Dame. Sure, he had good weapons, but the running game was poor and receivers Michael Floyd and Kyle Rudolph missed significant action (eight games missed total between them).

                                When Floyd went out, Clausen stepped up. With a bum turf toe, he didn't play at all in the second half and led the team to a game-winning drive to beat Purdue. The following week, he posted 422 passing yards against Washington. Over the next three games (USC, Boston College, Washinton State), Clausen threw for 774 yards, six touchdowns and zero interceptions....
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                              • Nick
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                              • flying t-bird
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                                -06-14-2009, 07:45 PM
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