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Just heard a espn podcast where Todd McShay was given an either/or senerio, Bradford for 50 million or Suh for 30 million and he said as much as he liked Bradford he thinks that would be a killer deal for the Rams to get Suh with all the holes we have and enough doubt about Bradford to warrant it.
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Re: McShay picking Suh for Rams for less money
I am sure money will come into play especially if the negations of Bradford go a long time; they want him in as early as he can, and he has a lot of learning to do. That might make the rams go in another direction if the demand seems too high.:ramlogo: -
Re: McShay picking Suh for Rams for less money
Was the questioner saying he or she thinks we could sign Suh for $20M less than Bradford? Otherwise, I don't understand what the purpose of the question was.Comment
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After last season I wanted the Rams to finish near the bottom to have a shot at Sam Bradford. Well now a year later my wish for a franchise QB is a reality. But all I've been hearing about is how Suh is the best DT to come out in decades. Man now I'm really torn. Lets get some discussion going between the two players...-01-03-2010, 02:17 PM -
I see us getting Bradford, but there is an article on Suh over at espn, and man do I want this kid on our team. Character, physical traits, a winner, never ever satisfied with his skill set. I would be doing cartwheels if we called his name in April!!!-03-24-2010, 10:50 AM -
These thoughts will not change over the next month.......assuming neither of them molests a goat or some such thing. Here's a few things that I think will happen over the next decade (barring injury or end-of-the-world type stuff):
Bradford will be a very good QB.
Suh will be an elite DT.
With Suh, the Rams defense will show serious improvement, including better ypa in the rush D, and more pressure on the QB. The offense won't change all that much.
With Bradford, the Rams offense will show some improvement, but will require improvements to the receiving corp to make any large steps forward. The defense won't change much at all.
I understand the QB choice. I do, I get it. And Bradford will be a really solid QB. He'll show it on his pro day; he'll make crisp accurate passes, he'll dazzle in interviews, he will demonstrate to franchises that he is an intelligent, articulate young man with all the intangibles you'd ever want.
But he won't be the player that Suh will be.
Bradford will walk into Rams Park, and on the practice field, he will make everyone believe that scientists cloned Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner, combined the DNA, and out popped Sammy.
But he won't raise the offense the way that Suh will raise the defense.
With Bradford, his success will rely on other pieces. Will the receivers be able to separate so that his amazing accuracy can be demonstrated? Will the line protect him the way that his Oklahoma line (manned by 5 NFL lineman in 2008) protected him?
With Suh, his success will not be as dependent on those around him. Rather the opposite. The DEs will see more lanes as Suh occupies the interior. Same for blitzers. The DBs will look better as pockets collapse and QBs have to rush passes.
Bradford will be good.......but every draft has a "Bradford".
Suh will be great........and there may be one "Suh" a decade. (Not my words, by the way.)
So do we draft a Bradford, then wait a decade for the next Suh?
Or do we draft Suh, and pick up next year's Bradford?
Look, I'm not saying Bradford isn't worth the #1 pick......if Suh weren't in it. Take Suh out of the draft, and Bradford is the #1 pick (though McCoy fans would have their valid points as well). So, no, I'm not going to complain about drafting Bradford at #1. In any ordinary year, he is a #1 pick.
I'm just saying that with Suh available, this isn't an "ordinary" year.
I'm sure Bradford will do fine. But I would be lying if I said his long-term health isn't a concern. The Rams have protected their QB with a sack % of 7.5% to 8.0% over the past few years. But he's coming from an offense that protected him with a sack % of 2.7%. And even then (as Nick has pointed out),...-03-12-2010, 10:33 AM -
I think this season is a great example of how drafting is as much about fit as it is about talent. There was a heavy debate on Suh vs. Bradford. Both are having great years so far. Suh has been downright amazing, and from a stat perspective, you could even argue that Suh is having a better rookie year at DT (he is a leader in many DT stats - e.g. 8th in league in sacks, leading all DT's in sacks, 1 interception and 1 fumble recovery for a TD as a DT), than Bradford is having at QB. Yet, the choice of Bradford was best for the Rams and Suh will be a beast for the Lions for years to come.-11-01-2010, 10:01 AM -
YouTube - Ndamukong Suh - 2009 Outland Trophy Award Winner
video sums it up-04-13-2010, 09:30 PM
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