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  • please take suh

    this is the first time i have fallen in love with a player, ive watched his highlights both juinor and senior year, and i wonder, how the hell did no one know about this guy his juinor year. if mccoy was an all american sophmore year with 6 sacks 13 tackles for loss and one interception, why wasnt suh an all american his juinor year if suh had 7.5 sacks, 19.5 tackles for loss 3 passes blocked 2 interceptions returned for touchdowns, 3 touchdowns and 1 blocked kick?

    YouTube - Ndamukong Suh Heisman Highlights
    sums up his senior year

    almost sums up his entire career, (missed some key tackles and plays)
    YouTube - Ndamukong Suh Tribute

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    Re: please take suh

    Nobody's denying that Suh is good. Maybe the best DT to come along in a very long time. But the bottom line is that the state of our nation is that right now, we could use a QB just as much as we could use a monster at DT. When you draft a Quarterback, you're drafting a new face for your franchise. You're more or less putting the next five years of your franchise in the hands of one player. You're drafting hope and you're drafting to begin a new era.

    In my opinion, that era doesn't begin until the Rams draft a QB. There are new faces everywhere. The past twelve months really have been a case of out with the old and in with the new. But we're devoid of that one face to encapsulate them all. Until the Rams draft a QB, they're devoid of direction and devoid of a forseeably bright future. In this day and age, teams don't win without an established QB under centre.

    Trent Dilfer might be the exception that proves the rule, but even he was consistent enough not to make mistakes. The defense and the running game did indeed take care of the rest, but it wasn't going to happen without Dilfer at QB. In case you'd forgotten, the Ravens starting QB to begin the 2000 season was Tony Banks.

    I'd love to see Suh as a Ram. I personally think he's the BPA in this draft and probably would be so in just about any draft of the past five years. Maybe Calvin Johnson was a better purported pro. Lucky Detroit. But for the sake of the long term future of this franchise, for the hope and salvation of its fans, I think the Rams need to take Bradford. In terms of BPA status, he's not that far off. If his shoulder wasn't hurt last season I don't think there would be any question in the matter. Spagnuolo and Devaney are going to put a new face on this franchise come April 22. As wonderful as Suh is, I think that face needs to be Sam Bradford.

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    • #3
      Re: please take suh

      i really hope that when the rams pick bradford that all the suh fans just go and follow the team he lands with.... cuz i anticipate this site to be flooded with whiners all year around ....wont be surprised if the site crashes....
      GO RAMS!!! ON TO ROUND 2

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      • #4
        Re: please take suh

        I think Suh is fantastic... Most here do. You'll be hard-pressed to find a bigger pro-Suh contingent than right here @ clanram.

        Having said that, I think we need Bradford more than we need Suh. He's the fit, and think he'll likely be the pick.

        That's no knock on Suh. He's going to be a great DT.

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        • ramhard
          Bradford vs. Suh
          by ramhard
          I think this season is a great example of how drafting is as much about fit as it is about talent. There was a heavy debate on Suh vs. Bradford. Both are having great years so far. Suh has been downright amazing, and from a stat perspective, you could even argue that Suh is having a better rookie year at DT (he is a leader in many DT stats - e.g. 8th in league in sacks, leading all DT's in sacks, 1 interception and 1 fumble recovery for a TD as a DT), than Bradford is having at QB. Yet, the choice of Bradford was best for the Rams and Suh will be a beast for the Lions for years to come.
          -11-01-2010, 10:01 AM
        • Molotov
          Not Suh
          by Molotov
          The problem I have with drafting Suh is, I actually think our interior DL is pretty good at the moment.

          If you bring on Suh, that gives you Douzable, Ramsey, Gibson, Scott, Ryan, and Suh. Meanwhile, on the edge, we have Long, Victor, and Hall. This could all change via free agency, of course.

          All of our interior guys are decent players, and Scott and Ryan are actually pretty good. Our edge guys are okay, but do not provide consistent pressure on opposing QBs. And I am not convinced that Suh will provide a pass rush in the NFL.

          So the actual improvement of the team will be marginal with the addition of Suh. We need game changers. We need edge rushers, shut down corners, big play WRs, and a stud QB. If we add Suh, we will STILL need edge rushers, shut down corners, big play WRs, and a stud QB.

          I would rather have Spiller, Bryant, Berry, or Clausen. These guys appear to be the game changers that rate as top 5 picks.
          -01-12-2010, 06:35 AM
        • ludairv
          IF NOT SUH ....then TAKE...
          by ludairv
          ERIC BERRY!!!!!... man watchin this team is so frustrating!!!!!! i remember the good ol days when they were the GSOT and not only that they had a solid defense!!.... its clear now the LOCKER is returning for his senior season!! and that means NO OTHER QB is worthy of a top 3 pick!
          no way CLaussen gets chosen.... this team needds The NEXT BEST TALENT on the board and that is BERRY ...look how pathetic the Steelers Defense is without Polumalu ( its crazy that one player makes that big of a difference btw)
          .....yes ofcourse i know the rams lack D line talent/depth ...but come on Spagnoulo has an eye for talent in that field.....look a the giants d line when they won that superbowll... ..the moajority of those guys were later round talent!!! .... If OJ goes and we get pick out of it ...hopefully we cant spend those on fillin out key postions.....i now goin from a B- to and A isnt that big of an upgrade but come. on ...in the long run.....it will damn well be worth it!!!!!:helmet::helmet::helmet:
          -12-14-2009, 01:19 PM
        • turbofargo
          No stopping the Suh express
          by turbofargo
          I see us getting Bradford, but there is an article on Suh over at espn, and man do I want this kid on our team. Character, physical traits, a winner, never ever satisfied with his skill set. I would be doing cartwheels if we called his name in April!!!
          -03-24-2010, 10:50 AM
        • RamFan_Til_I_Die
          Why Draft "Experts" Annoy Me
          by RamFan_Til_I_Die
          I can't be the only one that gets annoyed by all these so called draft "experts" that change there mind like r8rh8rmike changes his underwear...about once a week. I'm going to use SI's main mock "expert" as an example. Not becuase he's the best, but because his past mocks are easy to find. H3e's just an example of what annoys me.

          Don Banks 2010 NFL Mock Drafts thusfar:

          Suh is a rock solid concensus as the surest thing. Sounds great, right?

          So roughly a month later, the day before the DT's do anything at the combine, the rock solid concensus is now split 50/50 and McCoy is our choice. Um ok. Nothing changed so why did his opinion?

          So because of one quote from Devaney, who is only making picks to save his job, we're now taking a QB in Stafford. Yeah ok, whatever you say Donny boy.

          Again implying they'll pick to stay employed rather than to make the pick that helps the team the most, while also covering his backside in case they don't pick Bradford. Pretty typical "expert" BS.

          Bradford had a good pro day so now it's a sure thing. OK now at this point I can see someone switching to Bradford as a possibility, but before no way. It just makes no sense. But even still what happened to Suh the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing.?"

          WOW. We sure did a 180 in two and a half months didn't we. First Suh is the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing" and now to take anyone but Bradford is "the kind of stunning turn of events we haven't seen in years."

          This is just one example of what annoys me about these "experts." McShay has flopped from Suh to Bradford also, while Kiper has flipped from Suh being "the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this." to Clausen. It seems like they build up and exaggerate the plus side of whoever they want. For the longest time all we heard was Suh is a lock to go #1 to the Rams, and now it's a QB. Yes I know Blger is now gone, but these guys flopped to QBs while he was still here. Is it anything more than hype and these draft guys feeding off of each other that made Suh go from the guaranteed pick to now being the #2 DT behind McCoy in many people's eyes? I just don't get it. These guys annoy the crap out of me....
          -04-17-2010, 09:26 PM
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