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Ok hypothetically let's say we take Bradford and another team takes Suh.. training camp rolls around and the season starts and the team that drafted SUH comes to town and Bradford has been having a Warner like first couple of weeks throwing the ball and managing the team like the beginning of the 1999 season... Second play of the second Quarter, play action pass Bradford fakes to Jackson and SUH bull rushes, throws Grecco to the side and has a clear shot at Bradford. For the first split second Bradford doesn't see him while making his progression and BAM!! SUH lays a "house of spears" hit on Bradford whish sends him flying into the turf landing akward on the turf rolling around in pain grabbing his shoulder... What would be the first thing through your head ..........?
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40Bad luck good pick22.50%9We should of taken SUH30.00%12RAMS bad luck strikes again25.00%10I'm jumping in the river17.50%7I'm gonna stop watching football Forever!!5.00%2 -
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I would probably smash my television. But hey, if he can make us look like the '99 team, I'm happy.
I don't think his shoulder will give us problems. These doctors are not your every day doctors though. These guys are top notch and I'm 110% sure that Spags and Devaney are going through this with a fine-toothed comb. They won't draft him if they don't believe his shoulder will hold up. -
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i voted Rams bad luck strikes again.
But there wasnt an option for "Greco shouldnt be starting at guard anyway"@EssexRam_Comment
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What exactly is your point?
This is so completely and entirely hypothetical that even Aristotle would have difficulty making a judgement call.Comment
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Why are we running a play action, suh's team has been stopping the run all day, they obviously know it's going to be a roll out. We should have run a slant to Amendola.
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good thing there are plenty of rules to protect our franchise qb from cheap hits. he has a pretty quick accurate release. worst case scenario I see a lot of balls getting thrown out of bounds and SJax getting stopped up. let's hope we improve our line or else get ready to be the worst in the red zone yet again.Comment
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My suicide note would be laid out and written in less than 2 minutes....my body would be floating down the Mississippi in 3 hours...Comment
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We've had enough bad luck these past 3 years, it's time that good karma comes in our favor, though I'll start crying and binge drinking for a week until I get a confirmed report about Bradford's injury..
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Hahaha good idea, I might do the same. Race you to the Gulf of MexicoOriginally posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View PostComment
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What if Suh lands on Bradford and it's Bradford who gets up and the Big Guy who stays down?
Big Guys get hurt tooo....Comment
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Originally posted by tomahawk247 View PostOriginally posted by 01d 0rd3r View PostWhy are we running a play action, suh's team has been stopping the run all day, they obviously know it's going to be a roll out. We should have run a slant to Amendola.Originally posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View Postlol dam you guys make me LMAO! Reason I stay on this board ;o)Originally posted by RamsFanLSUMan View PostComment
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Hahahahaa bralidore. I'd quit life aswell.Comment
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"Be a man! You call that a hit? My grandma hits harder than that when you talk politics at the dinner table! There's no crying in football! Get up, you bum. Hey, ref, how about a flag here?"Comment
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I would just be heart broken. *PLEASE DONT HAPPEN*Comment
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Originally posted by sosa39rams View Post
i would laugh my ass off and come on this board to bragComment
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These thoughts will not change over the next month.......assuming neither of them molests a goat or some such thing. Here's a few things that I think will happen over the next decade (barring injury or end-of-the-world type stuff):
Bradford will be a very good QB.
Suh will be an elite DT.
With Suh, the Rams defense will show serious improvement, including better ypa in the rush D, and more pressure on the QB. The offense won't change all that much.
With Bradford, the Rams offense will show some improvement, but will require improvements to the receiving corp to make any large steps forward. The defense won't change much at all.
I understand the QB choice. I do, I get it. And Bradford will be a really solid QB. He'll show it on his pro day; he'll make crisp accurate passes, he'll dazzle in interviews, he will demonstrate to franchises that he is an intelligent, articulate young man with all the intangibles you'd ever want.
But he won't be the player that Suh will be.
Bradford will walk into Rams Park, and on the practice field, he will make everyone believe that scientists cloned Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner, combined the DNA, and out popped Sammy.
But he won't raise the offense the way that Suh will raise the defense.
With Bradford, his success will rely on other pieces. Will the receivers be able to separate so that his amazing accuracy can be demonstrated? Will the line protect him the way that his Oklahoma line (manned by 5 NFL lineman in 2008) protected him?
With Suh, his success will not be as dependent on those around him. Rather the opposite. The DEs will see more lanes as Suh occupies the interior. Same for blitzers. The DBs will look better as pockets collapse and QBs have to rush passes.
Bradford will be good.......but every draft has a "Bradford".
Suh will be great........and there may be one "Suh" a decade. (Not my words, by the way.)
So do we draft a Bradford, then wait a decade for the next Suh?
Or do we draft Suh, and pick up next year's Bradford?
Look, I'm not saying Bradford isn't worth the #1 pick......if Suh weren't in it. Take Suh out of the draft, and Bradford is the #1 pick (though McCoy fans would have their valid points as well). So, no, I'm not going to complain about drafting Bradford at #1. In any ordinary year, he is a #1 pick.
I'm just saying that with Suh available, this isn't an "ordinary" year.
I'm sure Bradford will do fine. But I would be lying if I said his long-term health isn't a concern. The Rams have protected their QB with a sack % of 7.5% to 8.0% over the past few years. But he's coming from an offense that protected him with a sack % of 2.7%. And even then (as Nick has pointed out),...-03-12-2010, 10:33 AM -
Let's assume that both Bradford and Suh are ahead (and will stay ahead) of their positional counterparts, Clausen and McCoy.
With that assumption in place, the decision comes down to: will Bradford be the better QB, or will Suh be the better DT? And by how much, relatively speaking?
So I think we have to look not at where they are, but where they will be. Here's how I see it:
Bradford's floor is Chad Pennington; his ceiling is Kurt Warner. Most likely......Matt Schaub
Suh's floor is LaRoi Glover; his ceiling is John Randle. Most likely.....Warren Sapp.
It just seems to me, when looking at that scale of potential/probability, the choice is Suh. Not scientific at all, of course, but just what I'm seein'.-03-01-2010, 07:30 AM -
After last season I wanted the Rams to finish near the bottom to have a shot at Sam Bradford. Well now a year later my wish for a franchise QB is a reality. But all I've been hearing about is how Suh is the best DT to come out in decades. Man now I'm really torn. Lets get some discussion going between the two players...-01-03-2010, 02:17 PM -
I think this season is a great example of how drafting is as much about fit as it is about talent. There was a heavy debate on Suh vs. Bradford. Both are having great years so far. Suh has been downright amazing, and from a stat perspective, you could even argue that Suh is having a better rookie year at DT (he is a leader in many DT stats - e.g. 8th in league in sacks, leading all DT's in sacks, 1 interception and 1 fumble recovery for a TD as a DT), than Bradford is having at QB. Yet, the choice of Bradford was best for the Rams and Suh will be a beast for the Lions for years to come.-11-01-2010, 10:01 AM -
Less then 24 hours to go I wanted to see where the Clan stood on the Bradford vs. Suh debate just before the draft. Who do you want to see the Rams take at #1? Don't vote for who you think they want vote for who you want.Bradford15Suh46-04-21-2010, 05:02 PM
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