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  • McCoy > Bradford?

    as per another thread..

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    Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39
    Listening to 101 ESPN St Louis Radio and Trent Dilfer was giving his opinion on this years QB's in the draft. He has watched every snap of Bradford, Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen. In fact he has watched all Bradford's career three times.
    He believes the Rams are making a grave mistake, if they draft Bradford.
    Colt McCoy is much the better prospect in his eyes, showing the skills, which will much better to translate to the NFL. He believes Bradford will struggle with pressure, be unable to keep plays alive, and struggle with the mental side.
    He said he is very worried for the Rams and was quite convincing with his points.
    Is anyone in the same mindset?...

    Yes 100%. McCoy will be a better NFL QB than Bradford will be. I'm sorry if you are on the Bradford band wagon and put your future Rams success and hopes already in Bradford, but the media and whoever else has blown up Bradford.

    Why is it when they were playing football still SUH was the number one draft pick hands down? Because he was the best college football player that was playing that had a impact on his team. Now Bradford is? what has changed? Nothing! Media blows things up and changes so many things that it changes peoples mindsets.

    McCoy and Bradford have both had bad games like any human being has bad games or times, thats a none issue. But what McCoy has to offer has far more upside, he doesn't have that media storm to build up his stock. The people who think he has this great potential aren't saying anything because they want everyone to think he will slip to the 2nd round. Those same people will take him sometime in the mid 1st round.

    I pray and hope we take BPA SUH as our no.1 pick and we trade up and take McCoy in the first. We get a generation DT and our QB of the future. With great leadership and a will to be the best.

    Before you respond in negative please open your mind up and think about
    Last edited by TheRammer; -04-03-2010, 04:31 PM.

  • #2
    Re: McCoy > Bradford?

    I was in the hopeful mindset of taking Suh at #1 and McCoy in the second. But you are right people have changed my mind about Bradford. But no matter what I'll be behind Spags/Devaney's decision coming in 18 days.

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    • #3
      Re: McCoy > Bradford?

      I was in the hopeful mindset of taking Suh at #1 and McCoy in the second. But you are right people have changed my mind about Bradford. But no matter what I'll be behind Spags/Devaney's decision coming in 19 days.

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      • #4
        Re: McCoy > Bradford?

        You can't guarantee he'll have a better career than Bradford, that's just ridiculous. I'm fine with either scenario and people who know me understand that I have always been an advocate to get Suh in the first and McCoy in the second round. If the Rams feel Bradford is the best pick and the future QB of this franchise then I'm also fine with getting him at #1. Either way we have good options...
        Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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        • #5
          Re: McCoy > Bradford?

          Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
          You can't guarantee he'll have a better career than Bradford, that's just ridiculous. I'm fine with either scenario and people who know me understand that I have always been an advocate to get Suh in the first and McCoy in the second round. If the Rams feel Bradford is the best pick and the future QB of this franchise then I'm also fine with getting him at #1. Either way we have good options...
          Who is given gurantees about this? Who's to say either one dont' suffer career ending inury? No one... there are no gurantees in the NFL but listen if you don't realise that Bradford got blown up from the media roller coaster I don't think you have any red flags to be raised. I almost always agree with what you have to be say, you have great sense. But seriously you think McCoy is going to last till the 2nd round? Noo way...

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          • #6
            Re: McCoy > Bradford?

            The guy you quoted said that... "McCoy will be a better NFL QB than Bradford will be." So I was just going by that.

            I have no doubt in my mind that he is/was being overhyped. But being a fan I will admit I'm a sucker for it. I can't help but be excited to think we may be drafting our QB of the future. I've always rooted for Bradford and always liked him so I'd be happy if he becomes a Ram. If he's our pick at #1, I trust that the Front Office made the right decision. I haven't had confidence in the FO like that in quite some time.

            For some time a lot of people had McCoy falling to the 2nd round... It'll be interesting.
            Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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            • #7
              Re: McCoy > Bradford?

              McCoy has some nice qualities, but he does not have an arm like Bradford's.

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              • #8
                Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                Since the season ended, Bradford gained 14 pounds of muscle, and has had his shoulder checked out by close to 1,000,000 doctors. Before that he was expected to be the number one last year. Its not like the media has hyped him up with nothing to back it

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                • #9
                  Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                  Man, there just trying to stir up some drama. Not once have I ever heard anyone compare Sam Bradford to anyone in this draft as a "close runner up".

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                  • #10
                    Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                    Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
                    The guy you quoted said that... "McCoy will be a better NFL QB than Bradford will be." So I was just going by that.

                    For some time a lot of people had McCoy falling to the 2nd round... It'll be interesting.
                    Ohh ok my bad Varq
                    Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
                    McCoy has some nice qualities, but he does not have an arm like Bradford's.
                    What? you crazy dude? lol No where anywhere does this have any where to have a leg to stand on. If anything they'd be close to comparable as far as arm strength goes.

                    Originally posted by CanadianRamsFan View Post
                    Since the season ended, Bradford gained 14 pounds of muscle, and has had his shoulder checked out by close to 1,000,000 doctors. Before that he was expected to be the number one last year. Its not like the media has hyped him up with nothing to back it
                    But that was last year, this is tthis year and the best player in the draft is SUH hands down.

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                    • #11
                      Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                      Originally posted by TheRammer View Post
                      Ohh ok my bad Varq

                      What? you crazy dude? lol No where anywhere does this have any where to have a leg to stand on. If anything they'd be close to comparable as far as arm strength goes.


                      But that was last year, this is tthis year and the best player in the draft is SUH hands down.
                      Who were the players last year?

                      Matthew Stafford = a projected franchise QB.

                      Alex Mack = best center prospect to come out in years.

                      B.J Raji = dominant NT.

                      Tyson Jackson = Best 3-4 end in the draft.

                      Jason Smith = ultra athletic LT with massive upside

                      Aaron Curry = thought to be the best linebacker prospect to come out in a long time.

                      Mark Sanchez = another projected franchise QB.

                      Eugene Monroe = textbook technician LT. Franchise tackle.

                      Michael Crabtree = dynamic receiver and playmaker.




                      And Bradford was suppose to be taken before any of them.

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                      • #12
                        Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                        Originally posted by TheRammer View Post
                        No where anywhere does this have any where to have a leg to stand on.
                        Um... what?

                        Tell you what... why don't you go and take some English lessons, then come back and we'll talk.

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                        • #13
                          Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                          Originally posted by RockinRam View Post




                          And Bradford was suppose to be taken before any of them.
                          pure speculation, Alot of people still thought Stafford would of been taken first...
                          Last edited by AvengerRam_old; -04-04-2010, 03:27 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                            there are too many questions surrounding Bradford, and sadly one of the main reasons he's a top pick is because he passes "the look test" meaning when you "look" at the guy he's your prototypical NFL QB; meaning he's 6'4", strong arm, etc. however that means nothing when it comes to how well he'll play in the league as we've seen several players with "the look" come in and bomb as 1st round QB's. If it weren't for the injury (which was more serious than McCoy's) then maybe you'd be able to sway me, but as of right now I say you draft:

                            Round 1: Suh
                            Round 2: McCoy
                            Last edited by AvengerRam_old; -04-04-2010, 03:29 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: McCoy > Bradford?

                              Originally posted by ManofGod View Post
                              Watch it Rammer, you might get docked some rep points by a certain big bad moderator (lol)!

                              But seriously, there are too many questions surrounding Bradford, and sadly one of the main reasons he's a top pick is because he passes "the look test" meaning when you "look" at the guy he's your prototypical NFL QB; meaning he's 6'4", strong arm, etc. however that means nothing when it comes to how well he'll play in the league as we've seen several players with "the look" come in and bomb as 1st round QB's. If it weren't for the injury (which was more serious than McCoy's) then maybe you'd be able to sway me, but as of right now I say you draft:

                              Round 1: Suh
                              Round 2: McCoy
                              but the thing is that McCoy will not last till round 2.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Tampa's McCoy Targets Bradford
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Tampa's McCoy targets Bradford

                                BY KATHLEEN NELSON
                                Thursday, October 21, 2010

                                Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy's ominous-sounding threats Wednesday toward Rams quarterback Sam Bradford need to be put in the proper context. And there's a whole lot of context.

                                First, the two have known each other since their days in Oklahoma City's junior football leagues, when they played on different teams but never played each other.

                                "Man, they didn't want none of that," McCoy said jokingly. "They were hiding from us."

                                Second, they formed a strong bond as teammates at Oklahoma, where Bradford won the Heisman Trophy and McCoy was an All-American, with 40 starts, 14 1/2 sacks and 33 tackles for loss. The forbidden fruit for the 6-foot-4, 295-pound McCoy, though, was plying his trade against the Sooners' star QB.

                                "I remember watching him in summer workouts," Bradford said. "He was a big guy, but you could see him jumping over hurdles, running over bags and you'd sit there and say, 'A guy that big is not supposed to move like that.' He's a great athlete. He's a force in the middle. You really can't say enough good things about him."

                                Third, McCoy respects Bradford's ability. He called Bradford "one of the most accurate quarterbacks I've ever seen. I love the way Sam plays. Me and my father were talking the other day and I said, 'You know who runs a good bootleg? It's Sam.'"

                                Fourth, the two have kept in contact since Bradford was taken first overall in the draft and McCoy was selected third.

                                "I try and call Sam. It's rare for him to pick it up. It's not because he's avoiding me; it's because he's so busy," McCoy said. "He'll call me back and I'll miss his call. But we connected yesterday and I got to talk to him a little bit. We're both looking forward to it."

                                So, here's the tough part for Rams fans to swallow. His message to "Sammy," as he often calls him, was the same as it was months ago at the NFL Combine.

                                "I'm going to kill him," McCoy said Wednesday. "If I can get to him, I'm going to kill him. We are definitely cool off the field. But on the field, I do not know him. He is No. 8 for the Rams, and that's all I know."

                                McCoy embellished the message, adding that if he sacks Bradford, "I might even do something dirty, like knee him or something. When we get off the field, I'll say, 'Hey, Sam, don't take it personal, man. It was an accident.'"

                                Bradford acknowledged hearing the smack talk and even offered an excuse. "At Oklahoma, he was never allowed to hit me," Bradford said. "So, I think he's got a lot of built-up frustration that he's going to try to take out on Sunday."

                                Talk comes easily to the chatty McCoy, but Bucs...
                                -10-21-2010, 09:21 PM
                              • richtree
                                Bradford statement
                                by richtree
                                I think all Rams fans should be extremly happy today. Many Ram fans are saying, "Clausen and McCoy are both available and we should have taken Suh or traded out of the #1 slot."


                                I personal think that is not the right way to look at this.

                                I think all Rams fans should be even happier with their selection of Bradford. If no team wanted to trade up to get Clausen or McCoy at the end of round 1, it just greater confirmed the disparity between Bradford and the rest of the QB's.

                                I myself wanted Suh and Vick, Pike, or even McCoy but after seeing Clausen and McCoy not present in round 1 and that a team would actually take Teabow over the aforementioned just greater confirmed the franchise's selection in SAM BRADFORD.

                                I know if we took Clausen #1 overall there is no way he would have made it out of the first round or even past the top 12 picks. And definately Teabow wouldn't be selected over Bradford.

                                So, after greater analysis, I hope the Ram Nation can see that this is the best pick for our franchise.

                                Don't be the gambler that roots against his selections because he couldn't get his bets in to his bookie/vegas. You should want to win and we won with our selection and the #1 pick.

                                I myself understand this being a Suh fan, Vick promoter, and Tony Pike hyper....

                                But yet I know we made the best pick at #1 and hopefully go :

                                G. Tate / A. Benn Round #2 <---this is the pick we can fight over ..offensive, denfensive, trade....

                                but NOT Sam Bradford !!

                                thx

                                -rt
                                -04-23-2010, 08:14 AM
                              • tomahawk247
                                If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy
                                by tomahawk247
                                Report from Rotoworld:
                                According to FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo would select Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy if the draft was today.
                                Spags apparently feels strongly enough about McCoy that the rest of the front office would go along the pick. Fans of Sam Bradford in the organization will have to wait for his pro day in late March to build momentum. If Bradford is able to allay doubts about his shoulder, we still believe the Rams will end up going quarterback at No. 1.

                                What Jon Czarnecki actually said on his post:
                                If the draft was today, the Rams would select Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy because he is the player that head coach Steve Spagnuolo likes better. Fortunately for Rams fans who want a quarterback after passing on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez the past two Aprils, the team has seven weeks to change Spags’ mind. McCoy’s OU teammate, quarterback Sam Bradford, plans to throw and show off his surgically repaired right shoulder on March 25. A year ago, Bradford was the consensus top quarterback, ahead of Matthew Stafford, but he opted to return to play college football.

                                Interesting, but also unsurprising considering the timing. We have heard people talk about Suh going number 1, and about Bradford, but not much about McCoy going there. No surprise to see the Rams make it a definite three horse race and keep people guessing til the draft gets closer. I have heard Mike Mayock's reasons for putting McCoy over Suh, but the two players were tied going in to the combine and Suh did better in almost every drill, so i see no reason to think McCoy is better personally
                                -03-02-2010, 05:05 PM
                              • xkidflowx
                                Colt Mccoy + Suh..
                                by xkidflowx
                                WHAT IF... we had drafted Suh.. then colt mccoy in the 2nd.. do you think we would have been a better team? because me and my friends had a arguement and me defending bradford. My point was that, Bradford was the best thing that can ever happen to any organziation.

                                their point.. Colt Mccoy is the REAL DEAL and SUH is the real deal....

                                So let me hear your guys thoughts!
                                -11-30-2010, 12:56 PM
                              • Dominating D
                                Colt McCoy
                                by Dominating D
                                NFL Network reports Rams did not attend Colt pro-day workout. I can only assume that the Rams have no plans to draft a QB in the 2nd round?

                                Looks like Bradford is the only QB on the Rams radar?

                                Anythoughts as to why the Rams did not attend his pro-day workout?

                                Go Rams
                                -04-01-2010, 04:34 AM
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