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  • Pick a QB/DT Combo

    Each of the following is at least plausible (though some are more probable, and some more expensive, than others).

    Which option do you like the best?

    Note: I know that taking Bradford does not guarantee that the Rams take a DT in Round 2. My question is premised on the notion that the Rams view these as either the top 2 needs or the BPA options.

    Also, for the sake of the poll, assume that Albert Haynesworth or Jason Campbell could be obtained for (and would require us to give up) the Rams' second round pick (I recognize that either, particularly Campbell, might be available for less).
    Ndamukong Suh/Colt McCoy
    Sam Bradford/Albert Haynesworth
    Gerald McCoy/Colt McCoy
    Ndamukong Suh/Dan LeFevour
    Gerald McCoy/Dan LeFevour
    Sam Bradford/Brian Price
    Sam Bradford/Terrence Cody
    Sam Bradford/Jared Odrick
    Sam Bradford/Lamarr Houston
    Sam Bradford/Tyson Alualu
    Ndamukong Suh/Jason Campbell
    Gerald McCoy/Jason Campbell
    Last edited by AvengerRam_old; -04-06-2010, 08:28 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

    I picked Bradford and Price. I think Albert would require a lot of the salary to be absorbed by the Redskins before I accepted that trade.

    I'd rather have an impact pass rusher with Bradford than Price, but Price is a great player. I just think that DE is a bigger need than DT right now and a more premium position.


    • #3
      Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

      I like the idea of Bradford and Odrick. Of the combinations available it seems to be the one that will benefit us most in the long term. Provided both pan out of course. But at this stage i like that combination


      • #4
        Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

        Right now today; even for the next year or two, the best combo would have to be Bradford/Haynesworth. But for the long run, I like the Suh/McCoy combo.
        The more things change, the more they stay the same.


        • #5
          Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

          I am the one that picked Sam Bradford/Lamar Houston. Why? The more I study it out the more I don't think the Rams will select a DT in the first or second rounds. Therefore I am hoping that a guy like Houston will be available at the top of the third round.

          If Houston is not available two other possibilities are Arthur Jones of Syracuse and Geno Atkins from Georgia.

          As for the second round I look for the Rams to select a DE (Everson Griffin?) or to trade down for more picks. I don't see them taking a DT at #33.

          WHAT SAY YE?


          • #6
            Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

            Originally posted by RAMarkable View Post
            I am the one that picked Sam Bradford/Lamar Houston. Why? The more I study it out the more I don't think the Rams will select a DT in the first or second rounds. Therefore I am hoping that a guy like Houston will be available at the top of the third round.

            If Houston is not available two other possibilities are Arthur Jones of Syracuse and Geno Atkins from Georgia.

            As for the second round I look for the Rams to select a DE (Everson Griffin?) or to trade down for more picks. I don't see them taking a DT at #33.

            WHAT SAY YE?
            i was gonna pick that combo too out of the ones provided but took the question as being which combo would you take with the first two picks.. so went for Bradford/Price


            • #7
              Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

              I went Suh/Lefevour assuming Lefevour would be selected in the 3rd


              • #8
                Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                Assuming Alualu was being picked in the 3rd round picked him with Bradford so we can get Bradford help on the offensive side at the top of the second.


                • #9
                  Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                  A lot of the guys I've listed would be great selections in the third round, but I really don't think any of them will last that long.

                  So, all of you Captain Kirks out there... stop trying to reprogram the Kobayashi Maru and just answer the question!


                  • #10
                    Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                    i'm going with suh and mccoy, although i doubt it has legs since mccoy is arguably the third qb taken and at least 3 will likely go in round 1. i also like campbell, and think he could be had for a 2011 3rd or 4th (to replace the 2nd pick they will send to the eagles, basically) but i'd like to pick up a young prospect like mccoy or possibly lefevour/pike even if we manage to trade for him.


                    • #11
                      Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                      Bradford / Cody (assuming a DT must be taken)

                      JMO but I think Terrence Cody is going to be a premier NT in the NFL. He's not a multi-tasker like Suh because he can only stop the run but for what he does, he's going to be dominant for the next 7 years.


                      • #12
                        Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                        Suh LeFevour. Even if taking him in the second is a bit of a reach, it's not as financially devastating a reach as you might think.


                        • #13
                          Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                          Bradford and Odrick.

                          I don't really fancy getting another NT, as we have 3 NTs already. We need a slimmer, faster, quicker UT to penetrate the gaps.


                          • #14
                            Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                            Cambell QB, Haynesworth DT, Suh DT, and use the 2nd and 3rd picks on whatever you want.


                            • #15
                              Re: Pick a QB/DT Combo

                              I reckon it'd cost us one of or both the 2nd and 3rd picks to grab up Haynesworth/Cambell.
                              That being said, I really don't think we need a DT/QB 1&2. I agree with previous sentiments that DE or TE would be a bigger need. If pressed though, I'd say Bradford/Odrick. I'm still hoping for Arthur Jones in the 3rd or 4th, but I'm not sure where he's projected to go anymore.


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                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Sam Bradford is the true "Wild Card" for the Rams first choice.
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Last year at about this time, I suggested that, by the time the draft rolled around, Mark Sanchez could be on the Rams short list of players to select with the second pick in the draft. Many scoffed and, truth be told, even I was a bit uncertain with my prognostication. Of course, in the end, Sanchez rose from late first round prospect and became a top 5 pick on the strength of his workouts and interviews.

                                I can see a similar scenario occurring with Sam Bradford.

                                Last year, before Bradford decided to return to Oklahoma, many had him rated as a potential first pick in the draft. Then, as fate would have it, his season was scuttled by a shoulder injury.

                                Now, he is still considered a top 10 pick by most, but there are question marks.

                                So here are the "what ifs."

                                What if the doctors say he is fine and that there should be no long term impact from his shoulder injury?

                                What if he impresses at the Combine and/or his individual workouts?

                                What if he presents as a confident leader in his interviews?

                                If these things happen, the Rams very well could decide that the time is now to take a chance at drafting a potential franchise QB.

                                If that occurs, there will still be decisions to make. The Rams could, of course, simply select Bradford first. Alternatively, they could smokescreen a desire to take Ndamukong Suh and try to trade down. The logical trade partner would be Tampa, who likely would covet Suh, and would not take QB with the first choice (having spent a first round pick last year on a QB). Such a plan would not be foolproof, though. If, as some have speculated, the Redskins want Bradford, they could trade up with Detroit and take him at #2, thereby leaving the Rams to take who? (G.McCoy? Clausen?).

                                I'll leave the trade issue out of the analysis for now and simply say this.

                                Right now, I see Suh as being a prospect who is extremely likely (say 75%) to be an impact player at a very important position.

                                Right now, I see Bradford as being a prospect who has a decent chance (say 40-50%) to be an impact player at the MOST important position.

                                With those odds, I go with Suh (absent a great trade offer).

                                But if Bradford's stock rises, and I start to see him as having a better than 50% chance of being a franchise QB... then the choice becomes very difficult.

                                Bottom line: we're in the first lap of a multi-lap race. Its way too early to call the winner.
                                -02-02-2010, 08:03 AM
                              • viper
                                Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1
                                by viper
                                I came across Scott Wright's mock draft dated 12/17/09. He has the Rams picking Sam Bradford, QB from Oklahoma as the no. 1 pick in the draft. He also has Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama going no. 21 to the Miami Dolphins.

                                Is this old news? Has he updated his mock since then? I'm quite suprised by those two picks in particular. I found it here:

                                What do you guys think about us taking Bradford with the 1st pick?


                                1 ST. LOUIS RAMS: SAM BRADFORD, QB, OKLAHOMA

                                Washington’s Jake Locker would have been the slam-dunk pick for St. Louis but he is going back for his senior year, which complicates things for the Rams. Do they just move to the next best quarterback and take either Sam Bradford from Oklahoma or Jimmy Clausen from Notre Dame or do they try to address their defense with Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh? Steve Spagnuolo is a defensive-minded coach who loves to put pressure on the quarterback and right now the Rams don’t have any difference-makers up front so Suh would make a lot of sense. However, everything revolves around the quarterback position and the Rams just can’t afford to pass on a potential franchise signal caller. The Bradford / Clausen debate will likely go down to the wire but in the end I think Bradford gets the nod due to his superior intangibles. Bradford might have been the #1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft but he opted to spend another year in college. Unfortunately that didn’t work out as planned and he wound up missing most of the season with an injury to his throwing shoulder, which required surgery. Despite the questions about his health / durability and concerns about the spread system he played in with the Sooners it looks as though Bradford is still in line to be a Top 10 pick as long as there are no red flags in the medical checkups. Even though Bradford doesn’t have a cannon for an arm he possesses good size, is an extraordinarily accurate passer with a quick release and also extremely smart. Much like Atlanta fans who were clamoring for Glenn Dorsey over Matt Ryan there will surely be those who want the Rams to go with Suh. St. Louis will entertain that thought but at the end of the day they have to pull the trigger on a quarterback.

                                -01-18-2010, 12:35 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                QB/First Pick: Four Choices
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Which of these four options do you favor?

                                (I'm presuming that there are few enough people who would take Jimmy Clausen with the first pick that it need not be on the poll)
                                Take Suh or G.McCoy/Retain Bulger
                                Take Suh or G.McCoy/Trade for Vick
                                Take Suh or G.McCoy/Take C.McCoy, Pike or LeFevour later
                                Take Bradford
                                -03-09-2010, 01:33 PM
                              • harrydog
                                Assuming the Rams take Bradford...
                                by harrydog
                                At this point I don't want it to happen but let's say the Rams do end up selecting Bradford. How does that change the rest of the draft for us? At what point do we address defense? Is there another offensive player that would be irresistible for us in the 2nd round? Who would you like to see us take among the players that will most likely be available at #33 and #65?
                                -03-02-2010, 05:40 AM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Minimum Price for the No. 1 Pick
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                What is the minimum price you'd accept to trade down from #1 to #4?
                                Redskins' 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks.
                                Redskins' 1st and 2nd round picks and Jason Campbell.
                                Redskins' 1st and 2nd round picks, and #1 pick in 2011
                                Redskins' 1st and 2nd round picks and Andre Carter
                                Some other combination of picks and players (describe)
                                Not interested in a trade down to the 4th pick.
                                -03-31-2010, 08:15 AM