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  • Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

    On ESPN today Kiper said that Clausen is more "pro" ready and that the RAMS should select him with the 1st pick in the draft.:eek:
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    Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

    Originally posted by laram0 View Post
    On ESPN today Kiper said that Clausen is more "pro" ready and that the RAMS should select him with the 1st pick in the draft.:eek:
    I wonder how much of that is due to Kiper's "rivalry" with Todd McShay (who has been a pretty vocal Clausen detractor for a while).

    FWIW, Scouts, Inc., has Bradford rated the #3 overall prospect in the draft (behind G.McCoy and Suh), while Clausen does not make their top 32.

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    • #3
      Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

      I think Kiper may be going for the short term success factor.

      Chances are, in my opinion, that Clausen will make a quicker impact for a team. Kiper can then say he was the only one that picked him over Bradford. It's a nice little feather in his cap.

      Long term, however, I think Bradford will be a better quarterback but by then people will have moved on to the next draft and the next.


      The only way Kiper loses is if Clausen turns out to be another Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch.

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      • #4
        Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

        Does Kiper still have Bradford going to washington? ha
        All bets are Goff

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        • #5
          Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

          He's right.

          By the way, Scott Wright (whose opinion is normally respected on here) rates Clausen above Bradford, too.
          Last edited by ; -04-06-2010, 02:50 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

            Originally posted by Rambunctious View Post
            I think Kiper may be going for the short term success factor.

            Chances are, in my opinion, that Clausen will make a quicker impact for a team. Kiper can then say he was the only one that picked him over Bradford. It's a nice little feather in his cap.

            Long term, however, I think Bradford will be a better quarterback but by then people will have moved on to the next draft and the next.


            The only way Kiper loses is if Clausen turns out to be another Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch.
            Nail firmly hit on the head..thanks for saving me the typing!

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            • #7
              Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

              Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
              I wonder how much of that is due to Kiper's "rivalry" with Todd McShay (who has been a pretty vocal Clausen detractor for a while).

              FWIW, Scouts, Inc., has Bradford rated the #3 overall prospect in the draft (behind G.McCoy and Suh), while Clausen does not make their top 32.
              What's your take on who's the best QB in the draft Avenger?

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              • #8
                Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                Originally posted by GROUND DOG 39 View Post
                What's your take on who's the best QB in the draft Avenger?
                To me its Bradford. Not even close.

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                • #9
                  Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                  I don't know if a rivalry with McShay is enough for Kiper to put Clausen ahead of Bradford. Kiper made the switch on his December 2nd big board, but had Clausen creeping up his board as the season progressed, which isn't unusual since Clausen had a good season.

                  That being said, there are some who prefer Clausen to Bradford. Scott Wright, whose opinion I really respect, is one of them. Walter Football, whom I'm not as big of a fan of, is another. It seems to be a minority opinion at this point, and I believe there was a report from the combine where Charlie Casserly said no NFL person he talked to favored Clausen to Bradford.

                  From what I've seen, I favor Bradford as well. But given all the evidence in front of me, I can't honestly say I'm completely comfortable with either of them as #1 picks. If Bradford can stay healthy, I think he has all the potential in the world to be good. I'm just worried about whether or not he can stay healthy (not the shoulder specifically, but overall).

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                  • #10
                    Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                    Clausen is more pro ready...for now. When Bradford gets training camp, pre-season, and a few weeks of normal football season under his belt, he's going to blow past Clausen.


                    Clausen isn't a bad QB, but I don't think he's elite. Bradford is elite.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                      Everything Ive read says that Clausen is a jerkoff, but Id rather have a pro ready jerkoff than a guy whos going to read his FIRST defense in training camp, but he throws a pretty ball against air lets not forget.

                      THE RAMS decide, not us , not Mr.Hair who just runs his mouth, and if THEY decide that Bradfords' the man, then I as a fan will back him as if I made the pick myself.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                        Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
                        Bradford is elite.
                        I can't help but say that such a comment is entirely too bold for my taste, especially for a guy that hasn't played one down of football in the NFL.
                        Steve

                        What you see is what you get, but what you see depends on where you stand.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                          Originally posted by OldSchoolRamFan View Post
                          I can't help but say that such a comment is entirely too bold for my taste, especially for a guy that hasn't played one down of football in the NFL.

                          He has all the qualities to be an elite QB in the NFL, while on the other hand, Clausen does not.

                          This doesn't mean Clausen won't BE elite, and that Bradford won't be un-elite, but Bradford's traits portray him as being able to be an elite QB.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Kiper has Clausen rated ahead of Bradford

                            Clausen only looks good because of Golden Tate. I watch highlights, and so many of his passes are off, luckily Tate is a beast and fights for them whilst in the air.

                            Bradford has everything above Clausen except "pro ready" which I assume is more playing under center.

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                            • AvengerRam_old
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                              by AvengerRam_old
                              ... the more impressed I am with Golden Tate.

                              Its almost shocking how often Clausen heaved the ball from his back foot only to be bailed out by Tate. Those kind of throws won't work in the NFL on a consistent basis.

                              If the Rams took Suh in the first round and Clausen somehow fell to #33, I would consider taking a shot on him. Otherwise... not interested.
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                            • shroomysoup
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                              by shroomysoup
                              Saw this on Sportscenter. McShay vs. Kiper debating on where Clausen will get drafted. Kiper was praising Clausen, saying he is #4 on the big board and could go #1 overall.

                              McShay tells Kiper that he would not pick Clausen in the 1st round. He was good in Weis' system, but he doesn't have the arm strength to make the throws downfield. He says that Clausen isn't a good teammate and that no one on the team is going to miss him when he goes to the NFL. He just doesn't have the intangibles to become a good NFL QB.
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                              "Leaving all the coaching chatter aside, which could obviously affect his decision, Clausen could certainly be the top quarterback taken. I think he's certainly capable of going in the top 10 or 12, and remember, St. Louis might want a quarterback, Washington might want a quarterback, we're not sure if Oakland will draft one, but they're another team with a problem at the position. The struggles at Notre Dame you can't put on Clausen. He's been battered, particularly early on. But he can play the position and personnel people know it. Comparing him and [UW's Jake] Locker, for instance, Clausen is far more refined at this stage."

                              ----

                              The reason I posted this was because of that one sentence in Mel's quote about personnel people. It'll certainly be interesting to see what we do in the upcoming draft.
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