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Which do you favor?
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65Take Sam Bradford with the first pick.50.77%33Take N.Suh or G.McCoy; Hope to land Clausen or C.McCoy with second pick.44.62%29Trade for Jason Campbell before draft.4.62%3 -
Re: The QB Issue: 3 Options
I'm sticking with Bradford for the simple reason that I am not confident that either Clausen or C.McCoy will be there at #33 (and I don't want to be put in a position of having to trade up to get either of them, as I think that would cost too much).
If there was a way to guarantee that either Clausen or C.McCoy would still be on the board at #33, there's a good chance that I would favor taking Suh and waiting to take a QB with the Rams' second pick.
Since there is no guarantee, I just can't get behind a strategy that could leave the Rams with no QB option other than Dan LeFevour or Tony Pike. -
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Just do it... ;)Comment
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Give me the only Franchise QB on that list Sam BradfordComment
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Bradford & the rest of our picks alot of good players to get.
SUE & McCOY for me I have to try to get this done
IMO McCoy will do well in our WCO NFL in general IMO
SUE worse case (barring injury) will be solid best case
dare I say live up to all the hype
huge plus on both sides of the ball
either way RAMS 2010 will have some great prospects
at key positions CANT WAIT GO RAMSComment
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As much as I like Colt McCoy, I agree with you Avenger in that nobody can be certain he'll be there at the top of round two.
With this in mind, I think we should bite the bullet, pull the trigger, extinguish all of the other military cliches and select Sam Bradford. IMO, we take the best of the rest at the top of round two.Comment
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I'm no GM, which is a good thing.
But I can't help but want to roll the dice on this one. Maybe McCoy isn't there at #33, but I haven't seen too many scenarios where he goes in the first. The idea of Suh/McCoy is just too appealing to me to pass it up.
Disclaimer: My opinion is nothing against Bradford (who ironically has become the safe pick over the past couple of weeks.........weird, huh?). If Bradford is a Ram, I'm cool with that too.
But HUb, what happens if we draft Suh, then McCoy is not there at #33?
Then we either draft BQBA at #33, or even ##65 (which might be Skelton, which I'm all for). Or take next year's franchise QB.
Next year's franchise QB? But we'd have to be drafting at the top of the order again next year for that to happen, HUb?
Yea, I know. Sucks; but that may be reality.The more things change, the more they stay the same.Comment
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There are three people who could alter my feelings on this. They are: Jason Campbell, Marc Bulger and Tim Tebow.
If Jason Campbell is traded to a potential landing spot for Clausen or C.McCoy, that increases the likelihood that the Rams could rely on Option 2.
If Marc Bulger is signed by a potential landing spot for Clausen or C.McCoy, that further increases the likelihood that the Rams could rely on Option 2.
And... finally... if it becomes more likely that Tebow will be selected in Round 1 (which I am frankly amazed is even being discussed), then that could also push down Clausen or McCoy, and thereby increase the likelihood that the Rams could rely on Option 2.
As it stands now, I find Option 2 to be extraordinarily tempting, but exceedingly risky.Comment
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I have voted for DT and then Colt McCoy or Clausen in round two.
Off course there is a risc that they are gone when we get to pick nr 32. In that case we can look into getting Campbell in a deal with the Skins for a nr 4 pick (we have all night to discuss this with the before the second round start).Comment
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i would take suh and trade for campbell if he is available for a 3rd or 4th round pickComment
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You bring up a good point.Originally posted by clarasDK View Post
If Campbell is not traded before the draft, he could be a good backup plan in the event that the Rams take Suh and neither Clausen or C.McCoy is still there at #33. The second and third rounds are on Friday, while rounds 4-7 are on Saturday, so there would be plenty of time to work out a deal.Comment
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My only fear if we try and get Mccoy QB in the 2nd is that we would take Mccoy DT instead of Suh in the first. Aside from that issue, if Mccoy QB wasnt there in the 2nd which I think he might if we dont take Bradford because all QBs would then slide a little IMO, we could get Cambell for a song, but hes not real popular around here.
I would trade for Cambell now, and grab BPA through out the draft.Comment
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I chose taking Bradford with our first pick.
Having said that I certainly have not seen any mocks lately that have Colt McCoy going anywhere near the first round.
And even though I do not espouse this view, I really don't see that taking Suh is all that much of a risk at this point.
Besides who would be a likely candidate to take McCoy in the first round? I just don't see Minnesota at this point or any of the other clubs in the 25 - 32 range.
With Bulger and Campbell available and possibly Claussen dropping a bit I see it as quite unlikely that Colt McCoy goes in the first round.
WHAT SAY YE?Comment
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What do you think it would cost to say trade back into round 1, (say just ahead of the Vikes at the 29th spot via the Jets), and grab McCoy? Just curious .. I voted for the Suh / quarterback scenario - and yes it's risky, but nothing ventured - nothing gained ..Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
No guarantees Bradford will be worthy of the #1 overall either. The only guarantee will be that Sam will get a boatload of money regardless ..Originally posted by AvengerRam View PostComment
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It would likely cost at least our third round pick to move up a few spots, and I'd rather not reduce the number of picks we have in the first three rounds.Originally posted by MauiRam View Post
No, the guarantee is that, if the Rams take Bradford, they'll have a young QB prospect. If they don't, they might not have the opportunity to get one at all.No guarantees Bradford will be worthy of the #1 overall either. The only guarantee will be that Sam will get a boatload of money regardless ..Comment
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Which of these four options do you favor?
(I'm presuming that there are few enough people who would take Jimmy Clausen with the first pick that it need not be on the poll)Take Suh or G.McCoy/Retain Bulger7Take Suh or G.McCoy/Trade for Vick8Take Suh or G.McCoy/Take C.McCoy, Pike or LeFevour later30Take Bradford15-03-09-2010, 01:33 PM -
Considering Clausen for the Rams next QB
by VanRam on Nov 24, 2009 3:58 PM CST in 2010 NFL Draft 35 comments
Ok, with Bulger's tibia fracture barely days old and the (likely) end of his career with the St. Louis Rams, it's time to start talking QB of the future. Not that we haven't been talking about that since the last draft, but such chatter earned a new lease on life with Bulger's injury.
Carneros got it started yesterday with this post, and I'm going to feed the fire some more today. First, a quick review of the Rams QB options moving forward. Boil it down to the essence, and the Rams have three options at QB for 2010: 1) sign a free agent (personally, I like Jason Campbell if they go this route), 2) draft a QB or 3) keep one of the in-house options, Bulger (if he can return) or Boller. Note that 2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive.
And now, I submit for your consideration Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.
With Sam Bradford on the mend, Clausen is racing to the top of draft boards, at least among QBs. I think he'll be the first QB taken in the draft. I guess we'll have to see how much fan damage he incurred on a punch to the face this weekend. Will the Rams take him? Should the Rams take him?
Why Clausen?
Let's start with the stats, more specifically, the stats that can tell us something about success at the next level. According to the Lewin Career Forecast, the two most important things to look at when trying to gauge NFL success are a QBs career starts and completion percentage.
Clausen's a junior this year. He took over starting duties early in his freshman year, true freshman year, and ended up starting in nine games, and started every game in two seasons since then. For his college career, he has a 62.2 percent completion rate, a stunning 67.3 percent this season.
His TD to INT ratio of 23-4 speaks to his accuracy as a QB.
One thing I like about him is his ability to find receivers and create plays where others cannot. That's something the Rams have really been missing. Yes, St. Louis lacks the established talent at WR, but after watching this season of west coast offense move forward in fits and starts, it would be wise to have a QB that could find receivers or even go through the reads.
I'm not qualified to judge much about college players, especially the "intangibles". Talk of Clausen's acumen for the game, ability to read defenses and assuredness resonate for a long suffering fan of this team. Here are a couple of scouting reports from FFToolbox and Walter Football.
As a junior, there's still no gaurantee that Clausen will declare for the draft this year. I'd be pretty shocked if he didn't given the fact that his stock is skyrocketing. In fact, with Bradford unlikely to be ready for the Combine, I wonder if Clausen does separate himself from the rest of the...-11-25-2009, 08:31 AM -
After seeing everybody play in Mobile, and keeping everything in mind (estimated draft position, etc.) if we are to draft a qb in this draft I think it comes down to three players.
Colt McCoy
Tony Pike
Dan Lefevour
I know the Clausen and Bradford supporters might come out and state their case, but I honestly don't think the value of either supercedes (1) taking the BPA at #1 (or even at #3 as some want), which they certainly are not (2) the difference in ability from the three above players.
Personally, while I wouldn't be disappointed seeing us draft McCoy at the top of the second, if he's there, again I think the same principle as above comes into play in the second and there is too little difference in value between McCoy and Pike and Lefevour to bypass the bevy of talent likely available at that slot.
Therefore, hoping (and praying) either Pike or Lefevour is available in the third I take the remaining qb in the third and I think we have our qb of the future. Either of which I would be plenty happy with. As always, its a roll of the dice drafting a qb, but I think this situation will maximize value while minimizing the risk associated with drafting a qb and allowing us to fulfill other important holes along the way.-01-31-2010, 02:29 AM -
Which of the following QB prospects do you hope to see on the Rams in 2010?Sam Bradford, Oklahoma27Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame14Colt McCoy, Texas13Jake Locker, Washington10Jevan Snead, Ole Miss4Tim Tebow, Florida9Tim Hiller, Western Michigan1Tony Pike, Cincinnati2-10-05-2009, 05:22 AM
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How many of you would agree with me that if we had consistent play from our Qb position we would have won 5-6 games this season.-12-06-2009, 12:47 PM
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