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    I was wondering how long Mel Kiper has been in the NFL draft business so, on a hunch, I searched archives of his High School Newspaper in Jarrettsville, Maryland.

    To my surprise, I found an article, written by Kiper as a freshman, evaluating the 1974 NFL Draft. As he does today, he gave each team a "grade" immediately following the draft.

    Here was the most interesting part:

    Pittsburgh Steelers:The Steelers' had far and away the most questionable selections. In Round 1, they selected Lynn Swann, the stringbean wide receiver from USC. I'll be surprised if he lasts a season. I think the Steelers had the same worry, as they took another receiver, John Stallworth, in the 4th round. He's a long-term project at best. The remainder of their first four selections (they didn't have a third round pick) were undersized linebacker Jack Lambert and center Mike Webster. These two look like average NFL journeymen to me. The shame of this is that the Steelers are a team that is on the cusp of greatness. With a draft like this, though, they're not going to gt there. Grade: C-
    So... has Mel come a long way or is he still shooting in the dark?

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    No I think it was pretty accurate. They only got what? 4 hall of famers? At least on the post-dispatch board, that's like an F- draft, at best.

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    • #3
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      Is the drama between he and McShay real or made up? I've watched them a few times on ESPN and Kiper doesn't appear to be a very friendly person.

      One of the things that rarely gets mentioned is that Kiper was an odds maker in Las Vegas. That's how he really got into the draft analysis.

      The thing I hate about Kiper is that he doesn't integrate into his projections how a player fits into a teams scheme. Without that inclusion, it's all worthless. I think a big part of the Rams problems with drafting is that they've used a draft service that ignored it also.

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      • #4
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        if he knew what he was doing and wasn't just saying stuff to get attention he wouldn't be at espn.

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        • #5
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          This is the same guy who after the Colts selected Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf said "This is why the Colts select at the top of the draft every year, because of decisions like this." Still funny to watch him and McShay argue though. lol

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            lol that was funny

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            • #7
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              No yearbook picture? Let's face it, the only interesting thing about the man is his hair. When did that start? Did his mommy start shellacking his head in grade school to protect him from outbreaks of lice ?

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              • #8
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                Possibly as wrong as "wrong" can get? I'd probably not pick any guy he says and cast doubt on guys I had previosuly rated high after he says he likes them...

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                  Originally posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View Post
                  Possibly as wrong as "wrong" can get? I'd probably not pick any guy he says and cast doubt on guys I had previosuly rated high after he says he likes them...
                  I thought you wanted the Rams to draft Bradford (Kiper has him going to the Rams). I guess it's time to join the Suh train.
                  That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Judaxi View Post
                    This is the same guy who after the Colts selected Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf said "This is why the Colts select at the top of the draft every year, because of decisions like this." Still funny to watch him and McShay argue though. lol
                    Then I guess it is a good thing he has Clausen as his highest rated QB ;)

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                    • #11
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                      No i think Kiper has come a long long way. He has learned from his mistakes like the Manning thing.

                      I remember when the Rams picked David Vabora Kiper said something like 'I like this guy i thought he shoudve went in the 5th if he doesnt make the Rams squad he will be on someone's roster'

                      Its MR. Irrelevant and he had faith in the guy.

                      I think he knows what he is talking about unlike Todd McShay. McShay is just trying to spark conversations. (Mid March the Rams will pick Gerald McCoy)

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                      • #12
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                        Todd McShay just loves tall quarterbacks.

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                        • evil disco man
                          NFL Draft In Chaos As Mel Kiper's Big Board Is Knocked Over
                          by evil disco man
                          NFL Draft In Chaos As Mel Kiper's Big Board Is Knocked Over

                          April 19, 2007 | Onion Sports

                          BRISTOL, CT—NFL officials and ESPN executives made an emergency announcement Tuesday stating that the 2007 NFL Player Draft may have to be postponed indefinitely, as draft guru Mel Kiper Jr.'s Big Board, the index-card-laden bulletin board used to catalog, rank, and track every single player in the draft, was accidentally knocked over late Monday night.

                          "I just got up from my seat at the table to get a cup of coffee, and I must have hit the Big Board with my shoulder," said Kiper, holding up a loose stack of cards bearing players' names, positions, and schools printed in his distinctive block letters. "Now, the entire draft has been jumbled all together and no one is sure what player should go when. We might have to wait until July for me to get everyone back where they belong."

                          "Look at this," Kiper said, gesturing to a table where his Big Board lay uncharacteristically horizontal and bereft of player rankings. "It's not supposed to be like that. Not supposed to be like that at all."

                          Since the Big Board's introduction in 1984, it has served as the ranking medium for all top NFL draft picks. In its entire 23-year history, the Board has never before been knocked completely all the way over.

                          "This is much worse than the 1995 'bobble' of the Big Board that saw five players' names from the mid-first round come unpinned and flutter to Mel Kiper's floor," said Buffalo Bills general manager Marv Levy, who was woken by aides and told of the knock-over only minutes after it occurred. "We weren't sure whether we were supposed to draft Warren Sapp, Ruben Brown, Mark Fields, or Ellis Johnson. In the end, we had to guess, and Sapp went to Tampa Bay. I don't want this to happen again, to anyone."

                          Commissioner Roger Goodell issued a call for calm from an NFL office besieged by frantic phone calls from journalists, scouts, teams' front offices, and the agents of almost every player on the board, all of whom insist that their client was listed toward the Big Board's top.

                          "While this is a huge setback for football, we will still be holding the draft in an orderly fashion," Goodell said. "We may have to delay it for a number of weeks, but one way or another, we will work with Mr. Kiper to recover as much information as possible related to player rankings. The full resources of the NFL are, as usual, at Mr. Kiper's disposal."

                          Meanwhile, Goodell says he has requested that ESPN search through recent footage to see if the intact Big Board can be seen in the background of any shots or if Kiper appeared on the network discussing draft rankings at any time.

                          "We're in bad shape, but all is not completely lost," said Kiper, shuffling through the stack...
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                        • Rambos
                          Not that it matters but it feels good to hear it anyways
                          by Rambos
                          By Mike Sando | ESPN.com

                          A run through Kiper Jr.'s 2013 draft grades

                          Good morning, NFC West (it's still morning here). I've had a chance to run through Mel Kiper Jr.'s 2013 NFL draft grades Insider for the NFC West.

                          As Mel notes, "Everybody knows you can't grade an NFL draft on performance the day it ends. You can't do it for years, which is part of the reason why I audit old drafts. What I do here is assess three main things: How much overall talent did a team add based on board position? How effectively did they address key personnel needs? How efficient were they in maneuvering on the draft board?"

                          With those things in mind, let's take a peek at Kiper Jr.'s grades and offer some initial thoughts. The comments I've included from Mel represent a small sampling of his overall thoughts for each team.

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                          Kiper Jr.'s overall grade: A-minus

                          Kiper Jr.'s give: "I really liked this draft, and found myself in agreement with my colleagues. Oh, and they still have an extra first-rounder next year. The NFC West arms race is not just a two-team affair."

                          Sando's take: The Rams set up themselves to succeed in this draft when they traded the 2012 second overall choice to the Washington Redskins. I loved the way they emerged from the first round Thursday night with the most highly rated skill-position player (Tavon Austin) and the same number of total picks they brought into the process. The Rams also addressed immediate needs with most of their picks, which always looks good on paper when a draft concludes. However, St. Louis emerged from this draft with only seven players overall. Eighteen teams drafted between eight and 11 players. The Rams had the two early picks, so they got quality. But a home run for me would have included getting quality and quantity. The Rams had only 52 players on their roster coming into the draft. All those open roster spots made it easier for St. Louis to land more attractive rookie free agents, at least.
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                        • chucknbob
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                          by chucknbob
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                          My thoughts are that in order for the analysts to keep people listening to them until draft day, they have to keep coming up with something new. All they can do is move guys up and down the boards so they can propose new mock drafts.

                          I personally don't put any stock in these draft board changes that have happened over the last couple of weeks. I can't imagine anything that has happened between the pro day/workout/combine and now that would sway the thougths of a GM or coach.
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