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  • Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

    Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:51 PM ET
    Cleveland Browns front office boss Mike Holmgren says he's enamored enough with Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford that he's going to make one final pitch to the St. Louis Rams to try to acquire the first overall pick.

    Holmgren told ESPN's Michael Smith that he would be willing to trade most of the Browns' 10 picks and maybe some 2011 picks for Bradford. But Holmgren thinks the Rams will turn him down.

    "They shouldn't do it," Holmgren said. "They need a quarterback more than anyone in the world."

    So Holmgren thinks, like everyone else, that the Rams will take Bradford. But he'll try to convince them to take his trade offer instead.

    "It's not going to happen," Holmgren said. "I just got out of a meeting and I told everyone, let [the board] come to us. That said, I'm going to go make the call."
    Remember guys, we could pick Bradford at #1 and not announce the trade until Cleveland is on the clock.

    Things are getting more and more interesting.

    If this happened, would you prefer Clausen at #7, and then BPA from there out, or would you go BPA-D at #7 (D Morgan, Berry, Haden, JPP), and try and grab Colt later?

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    Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

    Interesting. But, the problem is that I hate the #7 spot. The pickings their either don't suit us or are reaches.

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    • #3
      Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

      I grab BPA at #7 (personally i think haden or morgan) then BPA at 33 (mabye thomas) then colt at #38 (cle) and take add. picks from Cle draft this year and their 1st rounder next year, giving us in all likelyhood 2 top 10 picks next year...

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        Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

        Originally posted by #39 Fan View Post
        Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:51 PM ET
        Remember guys, we could pick Bradford at #1 and not announce the trade until Cleveland is on the clock.

        Things are getting more and more interesting.

        If this happened, would you prefer Clausen at #7, and then BPA from there out, or would you go BPA-D at #7 (D Morgan, Berry, Haden, JPP), and try and grab Colt later?
        Has that ever happened? I don't know how much of a fan i would be of trading a player we JUST picked.

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          Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

          Originally posted by CanadianRamsFan View Post
          Has that ever happened? I don't know how much of a fan i would be of trading a player we JUST picked.
          Manning/Rivers trade in 2004 would be the last time the rights to a player were switched.

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            Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

            Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
            Interesting. But, the problem is that I hate the #7 spot. The pickings their either don't suit us or are reaches.
            Trade down again into the low/mid teens and perhaps acquire another 1st (2011)? Always another option... And honestly, after the top 3 are off, the talent pool is in this class is wide (as good of player likely available at 20/30's as in top 10)

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              Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

              Originally posted by CanadianRamsFan View Post
              Has that ever happened? I don't know how much of a fan i would be of trading a player we JUST picked.
              Yeah I hear you there in that I would prefer, if there is a trade, for it to be announced out front... but it's happened before. Drafting Bradford and making it out of round 1 holding his rights (hypothetically) could be two different streets (---though highly doubtful)

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              • #8
                Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

                trade down to 7, take clausen and use the rest of the picks (which should be pretty good ones) to continue to build the team. I think this would be the best case scenario for the rams IMO

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                • #9
                  Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

                  Originally posted by realchamp11 View Post
                  trade down to 7, take clausen and use the rest of the picks (which should be pretty good ones) to continue to build the team. I think this would be the best case scenario for the rams IMO
                  Unless Bradford is a stud and all of you then eat your words...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

                    If your a team rebuilding like the Rams are How can you not take almost all of a teams draft picks and a few picks in next years draft.;)
                    The Rams could try to pry away a QB that is on a roster on another team with a pick or two and still draft a QB in later rounds.
                    With all of those picks the Rams could make a quick turn around and be a great team.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Browns will offer most of their picks for Bradford

                      Seems to me the Browns didn't actually offer most of their picks, or the Rams felt there were no good values a #7

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                      • richtree
                        Cleveland Browns and Sam Bradford
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                        Based on Bradford's pro day and the house cleaning of QB's in Cleveland, it looks like Mike Holmgren would be interested in trading up for him.

                        Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post doesn't believe that newly acquired Peyton Hillis is a lock to make the Browns' roster.
                        Lombardi questions Hillis' "blocking and production without the ball," in addition to the fullback/tailback's toughness. We'd argue that Hillis' versatility could be a nice fit in Mike Holmgren's West Coast scheme. Holmgren may envision Hillis in the same mold as longtime Packers FB William Henderson.

                        If we could get the 1st and 2nd for our #1 pick overall it would be considering.
                        I think the Browns are a serious team that will wheel and deal and take chances with a trade.

                        I think if Bradford comes up average or worse at his pro day, we can consider Suh or the trade....

                        The Browns also entice other teams to consider a trade and value the pick in both round 1 and 2.

                        Maybe forget Suh/Bradford and go Jason Pierre-Paul and get 2 picks after that.....

                        just saying., more options! Draft day can't get here soooon enuff !
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                      • Nick
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                        by Nick
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                        Thursday, April 15, 2010

                        BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert says the team has had talks with the St. Louis Rams about moving up in the NFL draft to take quarterback Sam Bradford with the No. 1 overall pick.

                        Heckert on Thursday said the Browns, who have the No. 7 pick, have been "'playing a little phone tag" but said they have talked with the Rams, who are expected to select the Oklahoma quarterback.

                        Browns president Mike Holmgren warned that dealing for Bradford could be difficult, saying "you'd have to mortgage the ranch. In the real world, we're probably going to go in a different direction."

                        Currently owning 10 picks, Cleveland could put together an attractive package of picks to move up.

                        Bradford did not visit the Browns, but the team attended his pro day workout.
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                      • r8rh8rmike
                        Report: Browns Believe They Can Land Sam Bradford
                        by r8rh8rmike
                        Report: Browns believe they can land Sam Bradford

                        By Chris Wesseling
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                        Published: April 30, 2015 at 12:15 p.m.

                        The Cleveland Browns haven't abandoned hope of landing quarterback Sam Bradford in a trade.

                        The Browns believe they have a good chance to trade for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford, The MMQB's Peter King reported Thursday.
                        ESPN's Adam Schefter also suggested on Mike & Mike Thursday morning that the Eagles could deal Bradford to the Browns.

                        Cleveland is unwilling to part with both 2015 first-round picks in addition to their 2016 first-rounder for the opportunity to draft Oregon's Marcus Mariota at No. 2 overall, according to King as well as The Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot.

                        Browns coach Mike Pettine acknowledged to NFL Media's Andrea Kremer that opinions are mixed on Mariota inside team headquarters.

                        Bradford represents a cheaper alternative, as the cost would presumably be just one of those picks.

                        NFL Media's Charley Casserly reported last month that the Browns had offered a first-round pick for Bradford, only to watch the Rams flip their quarterback to the Eagles instead.

                        The Browns' interest in Bradford is no surprise, but the former No. 1 overall pick isn't without warts. Still recovering from his second ACL surgery in two years, Bradford is resistant to the idea of signing a contract extension in Cleveland, per multiple reports.

                        Should Bradford end up on the shores of Lake Erie, the Eagles are expected to package the Browns' first-round pick with available veterans such as Fletcher Cox and Mychal Kendricks in an attempt to move up to the Titans' No. 2 spot for Mariota.

                        We have reached the height of silly season, just hours from the start of the 2015 NFL Draft. It's one thing for phone calls to be placed and scenarios to be plotted out. It's quite another for all of the pieces to fall into place, igniting multiple blockbuster trades.
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                      • Nick
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                        Don't count out Holmgren to make a push for No. 1
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                        As much as it would seem a lock for the Rams to just keep the first pick and fulfill their need for a young quarterback with Sam Bradford, league sources tell me that the Cleveland Browns are internally discussing making a significant offer in an attempt to get the first pick and take Bradford, themselves.

                        Trading out of the No. 1 pick is rarely feasible. The financial constraints that come with having the first pick are so much that teams are usually hesitant to even consider the possibility.

                        The 2010 draft, however, is unique in several ways.

                        The talent in this class means that the Rams could truly rebuild their roster quickly if they were to get an offer of 3-4 high draft selections in exchange for the No. 1 pick.

                        Next, you have a team president in Mike Holmgren who is looking to make a splash... and with five picks among this year's first 100 (7, 38, 71, 85 and 92) he has plenty of flexibility.

                        Perhaps most importantly, while almost all talent evaluators believe that Bradford is the clear cut top QB and that there is a significant gap between he and the other QBs in this class there is talk that the Rams don't feel this way. They are thought to be quite high on a few of the other quarterbacks of this class, especially Texas' Colt McCoy.

                        Mike Holmgren and his hand-picked general manager Tom Heckert, however, are thought to be exceptionally high on Bradford.

                        The most realistic scenario remains the Rams staying put and taking Bradford.

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