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    What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

    With the amount of talent that's fallen to the fourth round so far and the large amount of holes we still have on our roster, I'm curious as to how the Clan would feel if we parted with Barron.

    At the moment, I'm more than happy with Barron as our starter at RT for the final year of his contract. He'll be a veteran presence in the locker room and whilst he's far from the best first round draft choice we've ever made, he's a beacon of solidity barring his obvious inability to count. By now, we can safely say that he's not special, but he's not "special", either. I'd be content with Barron at RT and Saffold learning the ropes behind him or starting at guard for a year.

    BUT.

    I'd kind of like us to be in position to draft more than one of the top players who have fallen out of the first three rounds. If we have a chance to add Griffen and Hernandez via a trade for Barron, I would have to think about it long and hard. What's more, if we could package our 5's together to get into the late fourth, we could end up with three players of value, assuming they're not taken.

    So what is Alex Barron worth to you? Would you take a fourth round pick in this year's draft in exchange for his services?

    There are a number of teams who could use a starting caliber RT, especially those seeking to make a one-year crack at a Superbowl. The Colts, the Eagles and the Cowboys spring instantly to mind. On top of that, teams like Buffalo, Denver and Cleveland could all be looking to protect the investments they've made in QBs and RBs.

    All of this begs the question: What is Alex Barron worth to you?
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    Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

    Originally posted by Bar-bq View Post
    I'd be content with Barron at RT and Saffold learning the ropes behind him or starting at guard for a year.
    I would be fine with that as well. Some have said Saffold might be better suited for Guard. I also would not mind trading Barron for a late 4th or early 5th. Currently I want Griffen but would not be upset if we took Campbell because Barron won't be here long term. If Campbell works out then we leave Saffold at guard and if Campbell needs some seasoning we have Fraley, Greco, or Setterstrom at Guard and Saffold at OT until Campbell can get worked in at OT and slide Saffold to Guard.

    Scenario 1:
    OT J. Smith
    G Bell
    C Brown
    G Saffold
    OT Barron

    Scenario 2:
    OT J. Smith
    G Bell
    C Brown
    G Saffold
    OT Campbell

    Scenario 3:
    OT J. Smith
    G Bell
    C Brown
    G Fraley / Greco / Setterstrom
    OT Saffold/Campbell
    Last edited by RamsSB99; -04-24-2010, 05:04 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

      While this talk is all well and good, i believe Alex Barron would have to sign his tender before he can be traded, and he has not signed it at the moment
      @EssexRam_

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      • #4
        Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

        Indeed Tomahawk, i would love to have Barron for another year at RT and throw Saffold into the mix at guard, or he can get the boot. Barron really needs to sign his tender because how many options does he think he have? Some team would pick him up, but we'd probably pay him more than another team would due to his history and situation.

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        • #5
          Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

          Since the deadline for teams to sign him has passed, his only option is to sign his tender. His only chance to go to another team would be to have signed his tender so we could trade him. Since he hasn't, oh well. He'll be on our roster this year like it or not.
          I believe!:ram:

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          • #6
            Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

            I'd trade Barron for pretty much whatever we could get. Put him in a package for Haynesworth or Osi or Andre Carter. Or trade him straight up for a fifth rounder. Or trade him for a decent guard to replace Incognito. He's not much of a force in the running game. His penalties put us in 3rd and long situations way too often. He's a drive killer plain and simple.
            Last edited by Goldenfleece; -04-24-2010, 09:34 AM.

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            • #7
              Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

              I wouldnt mind having him as a backup, but if we could get even a 6th for him, hell i'd trade him in a snap count...

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              • #8
                Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                He's a great stopgate while Saffold works at guard, and an example of what good depth is. He is probably worth more to us than anyone else. But, if he was to have a price it would be a 2nd round IMO

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                • #9
                  Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                  I would take a 6th for him at this point.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                    Frankly, at this point, I'd just as soon keep him either as the starting RT or even a backup. The value of a 6th or 7th round pick is low, and we could use the depth.

                    Ideally, if he plays like a guy anticipating his next contract, Saffold can be broken in at OG and then slide out to RT in 2011.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                      Wow where were all of guys yest. in the chatroom, could have used you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                        I'm guessing Saffold is going to be focusing on RT all training camp. The Rams need 3 OTs and this solidifies that in 2010.

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                        • #13
                          Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                          Barron is still a good blocker and will be needed in 2010. After that, who cares unless he suddenly gets it and starts playing with passion and stops the false starts.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                            I really doubt Saffold was drafted at that uber-valuable #33 spot to compete for guard. If so, why the heck did The Rams get Fraley & what happens to Greco, never mind Sett ? Depth & competition is one thing but that's a glut. This guy needs to be a serious contender to fill the RT spot permanently or he's Schuening Redux & an expensive wasted pick .

                            Not sure how the tender deadline stuff affects his "tradeability" but Barron is either gone or will just ease Saffold into that RT spot, like Feeley will for Sam, then ride the pine as a back-up,imo. The latter is my preference since he is still a better option at either tackle spot as an injury replacement than Goldberg,imo.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What Is Alex Barron Worth To You?

                              Whats he worth? A pack of Oreo cookies. Double stuff of course.

                              In an uncapped year? Keep him for his tender to see how Saffold pans out.
                              The Breakfast Club. You want cheese with that?

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                              • BarronWade
                                Alex Barron at guard?
                                by BarronWade
                                No there is no report out or expert analysis saying anything about Barron switching to Guard But with Saffold being such a high pick he will probably play RT.

                                So what about Barron at RG?

                                He is closer to the center so maybe that will cut down on the False starts. He is big and can push. We can tell him to add some wieght in the off-season (witch shouldnt be too hard)
                                -04-26-2010, 06:31 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                The Alex Barron Situation Has Become More Intriguing
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                At the start of the season, I thought the plan for Alex Barron was pretty clear... play him at LT so that Jason Smith could cut his NFL teeth at the RT spot, let him sign elsewhere at the end of the season, move Smith to LT, and find a new RT in FA or the draft.

                                That still might be the plan, either by design (because Smith clearly is the intended LT of the future) or by necessity (because Barron will seek LT $ in FA). But, given Barron's play lately, I have to wonder if the Rams might need to rethink the plan.

                                Simply stated, right now Barron is doing an above-average job as a starting LT. In fact, he may very well be the #2 LT on the FA market next year, behind San Diego's Marcus McNeil.

                                The question is... how do the Rams get value from the commodity? I don't see the Rams signing Barron to a big contract and keeping Smith at RT. I also don't see Barron taking RT money and switching sides once again.

                                The real issue will be the state of the FA system in 2010. If it continues as currently structured, the Rams could make a francise player offer and then try to trade Barron. Would there be any takers? Not sure. Despite Barron's improved play, I'm not sure there are too many teams who would part with a high draft cholce for the privilege of paying Barron LT $ on a long-term contract.

                                I don't have the answer here. Thoughts?
                                -11-03-2009, 07:52 AM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                The one person who holds the key to the Rams' draft...
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                It's not who you might expect.

                                The person who holds the key to who the Rams will draft with the #2 pick is...

                                Alex Barron.

                                Not that he has any vote, but rather, those who do will likely make their decision, in large part, based upon their opinion of Barron.

                                If they see Alex Barron as a long-term starter (i.e. someone who would be a priority to re-sign when his contract runs out) at LT, then taking J.Smith or Monroe in Round 1 to play RT would make little sense. They'd be better off finding a RT in Round 2 or 3.

                                I doubt that is how they view him.

                                If they see Barron as a mere stop-gap who they'll milk for one year at RT and, absent a major improvement, will let go at the end of his rookie contract, then it would make no sense NOT to take J.Smith or Monroe in Round 1. In fact, under those circumstances, they might even think of taking another OT later in the draft for the future.

                                Again, I don't think their view is that extreme.

                                The Rams almost certainly view Barron as a player who falls between these extremes. The question is... where in the spectrum do they see him? I think that, more than any other issue, will impact their choice at pick #2.

                                In my opinion, Barron is a serviceable starting NFL RT. If you could reduce his false start penalties, you might even call him above average at that position. He could also probably fill the role of LT for a year without being a significant liability.

                                That said, I think it is unlikely he'll be a Ram after his rookie deal ends. Its a Catch-22. If he plays well, he'll demand elite OT money - but won't deserve it. If he does not play wel, he'll have to be replaced.

                                Thus, the bottom line is... the Rams need to find a long-term LT solution. In my opinion, you pretty much have to do that in the first round (unless you are very lucky to find a gem later in the draft). Consequently, the Rams will have to either take an OT this year, or try to buy a year with a Barron and a later pick, leaving OT as a likely target for the first round of the 2010 draft.

                                At this point, I'm thinking it will be Barron and Monroe in 2009, and Monroe and someone else in 2010.
                                -03-24-2009, 07:42 AM
                              • iStillBelieve
                                Alex Barron
                                by iStillBelieve
                                Would it be possible for the Rams to give Barron a shot at Left Tackle for the 2009 season, since that was his natural position. He is athletic enough to play there, and if we try him at left tackle we could draft Loadhoalt in the 2nd round to play right tackle.

                                Our offensive line would be:
                                LT- Barron
                                LG- Bell
                                C- Romberg/Incognito
                                RG- Grecco
                                RT- Loadhoalt

                                If Barron doesn't work out, which is obviously a good possibility, then at least we gave it a shot. We could just draft a LT in the 2010 draft and use our 1st round pick this draft on Curry, Raji, or Stafford/Sanchez.

                                I know there is almost no chance of this happening, but could somebody tell me why?
                                -01-25-2009, 02:31 PM
                              • 39thebeast
                                Barron to Guard?
                                by 39thebeast
                                One of his main problems have been his inability to count. I personally think he is partially deft in his left ear and being so far from the QB is hard for him. There is also that theory that he is a first round bust, but I don't buy that for a second.

                                In all seriousness Barron needs to move to guard. He has had his fare amount of chances at Tackle and it looks like he has progressed then gone backwards ans is back to square 1. It has worked with first round busts like Robert Gallery and Leonard Davis who are now pro bowlers. Switching to guard has also worked with lesser known guys like Travelle Wharton. Why does this switch help guys out. Well I think the main thing is having support on your left and right. When you play tackle you are by yourself on an island. Also when Tackles switch to guard they are able to use their athleticism when they pull and can get out there to the second level. 6'7 320 in a contract year I think he should compete with Grecco for the RG spot and let someone else like a rookie or a FA man the RT spot until Pace retires.

                                LT- Pace
                                LG- Bell
                                C- Rookie/FA
                                RG- Barron/ Grecco
                                RT- 1st round pick
                                -01-13-2009, 06:41 PM
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