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  • RamBill
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    Players Softli Liked at the Senior Bowl

    The players I liked at the Senior Bowl
    By Tony Softli
    Published: January 27, 2013 @ 3:11am

    http://www.101sports.com/category/ts...e-Senior-Bowl/

    Tony Softli covers the Rams and the entire NFL for 101 ESPN and 101Sports.com. Follow him on Twitter @SoftliSTL.

    For unique football content from a front-office point of view, visit tonysoftli.com.

    Character sets the ceiling while DNA forms the championship foundation. Those are the thoughts of all 32 teams leaving the yearly Senior Bowl and preparing for the NFL Combine in mid-February. Like every year, I was intrigued with the Senior Bowl. It was an extremely organized event; some call it “the NFL Convention.” Players travel from all parts of the country, representing universities to showcase their talents in front of hundreds of NFL personnel.

    Below I have listed several players that caught my eye during the week of practice sessions, and I look forward to watching them in Saturday’s Senior Bowl and digging further into their DNA (College Film).

    South Team

    Quarterbacks:

    Tyler Wilson – Arkansas; good accuracy, anticipation and touch along with mobility.

    Landry Jones – Oklahoma; good arm strength, performance was spotty during the week, has upside.

    Running Backs:

    Mike Gillislee – Florida; good size, vision, burst, acceleration, pass blocking needs work.

    Stepfan Taylor – Stanford; size, runs with power body balance, good pad level.

    Wide Receivers:

    Terrance Williams – Baylor; great combination of size, speed, athletic ability, natural receiving skills outside frame with soft hands, smooth route runner.

    Quinton Patton – Louisiana Tech; despite great college production and route running skills, I question long ball speed despite build up acceleration.

    Cobi Hamilton – Arkansas; solid route runner, creates separation in routes, high points balls with soft hands.

    Tight End:

    Vance McDonald – Rice; Good combination of size and athletic skill set.

    Mychal Rivera – Tennessee; Athlete that will need to further develop blocking skills.

    Offensive Line:

    D.J. Fluker – Alabama; size, strength and explosion huge body player with good feet.

    Jordan Mills – Louisiana Tech; power, strength, strong use of hands, attitude with good finish

    Corner Backs:

    Robert Alford – Southeastern Louisiana; good man cover skills, feet, burst and ability to close on ball and receiver.

    Leon McFadden – San Diego St; good use of hands man press drills, can flip hips and mirror with good close.

    Safeties:

    Shawn Williams – Georgia; great combination of height, weight and excellent speed with coverage skills and range.

    Bacarri Rambo – Georgia; another Georgia safety with size and coverage skills

    Defensive Line:

    John Jenkins – Georgia; massive man with short area quickness and strong use of hands.

    Ezekial Ansah – BYU; Raw! size, speed with huge upside.

    Montori Hughes – Tennessee Martin; wide load with good feet and lateral movement.

    Lavar Edwards – LSU; athletic defensive end with natural pass rush skills, body balance and control with high motor.

    Malliciah Goodman – Clemson; great length and lower body thickness, athletic skill set with high motor.

    North Team

    Quarterbacks:

    Zac Dysert – Miami (Ohio); accurate, skills on the move spins nice ball with touch, very good size and may have the most upside of all Sr Bowl quarterbacks.

    Mike Glennon – North Carolina St; good arm strength, touch and movement skills.

    Running Backs:

    Jonathan Franklin – UCLA; runs behind pads with power, yards after contact, vision to open space.

    Kenjon Barner – Oregon; excellent speed with gear change. At 188 pounds size is a concern.

    Kyle Juszczyk – Harvard; good inline blocking skills.

    Wide Receivers:

    Marquise Goodwin – Texas; FAST! World class speed, nice routes and upside as a receiver and returnman.

    Markus Wheaton – Oregon St; Good size and movement skills, soft hands to catch outside frame.

    Aaron Dobson – Marshall; Excellent size, route running skills and length.

    Denard Robinson – Michigan; projection from QB to WR. Athlete still learning to run routes, catch balls outside frame consistently, but very good combination of speed and quickness.

    Aaron Mellette - Elon; good small college production. Very good size and length with upside

    Offensive Line:

    Justin Pugh – Syracuse; size, feet and power.

    Eric Fisher – Central Michigan; size, length, feet, strong use of hands to stab and replace, anchor with strong base

    Corner Backs:

    Desmond Trufant – Washington; cover II man coverage skill set, short area change of direction, good body balance and control, good movement, question deep ball speed and recovery quickness.

    Jordan Poyer – Oregon St; Feisty attitude, sticky man coverage skills.

    Safeties:

    Jonathan Cyprien – Florida St; Good size, length and range.

    Linebackers:

    Ty Powell – Harding University; good size, length and football instincts.

    Defensive Line:

    Brandon Williams – Missouri Southern; Size, feet and lateral movement skills, strength and explosion.

    Alex Okafor – Texas; Size, explosive movement off edge.

    Margus Hunt – SMU; huge upside, exceptional size, length, athletic skill set. Still learning the game.

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  • RamBill
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    Senior Bowl Review: Offense

    Senior Bowl Review: Offense
    Saturday, January 26, 2013

    Josh Norris

    Senior Bowl Review: Offense - All Star Circuit - Rotoworld.com

    The purpose of Senior Bowl week is to supplement completed area-scout evaluations in practice and interviews. No evaluations are based on a single week’s performance, but certain prospects did help (or potentially hurt) their status and will force evaluators to take a second look at their live game action. I will breakdown each position below and rank participating performers accordingly. Please note, this is not strictly based on how these prospects did this week, instead it is based on their complete evaluation up to this point.

    For comparison, here is how I ranked the attendees prior to this week.

    Quarterbacks

    1. Tyler Wilson (6021/218), Arkansas - I should say this now: Nothing has changed with my quarterback rankings (other than Manuel jumping Landry) and I question anyone who writes that one separated themselves from the pack. Wilson sticks to the pocket in the face of pressure and isn’t afraid to test the field vertically. His velocity and placement will need to improve in that section of the field, however, but more decisive footwork will certainly help.

    2. Zac Dysert (6027/224), Miami (OH) - The RedHawk sailed multiple passes in 1 on 1s and 7 on 7s, but performed much better in full team activities. My biggest question with Dysert is if he can overcome the miscues that appeared in 2012, after the Miami (OH) offense asked him to make quick decisions on throws less than 10 yards almost strictly from the gun. Go back to 2011 and Dysert displays confident footwork and movement in the pocket while finding downfield targets on the move.

    3. Mike Glennon (6066/220), NC State - The longer Glennon holds the ball, the more worried I get. Just like in college, Glennon made some excellent throws all over the field when throwing after bouncing off of his back foot. He could thrive in quick progression, faster tempo offenses, but pressure up the middle, confusion, and receivers failing to separate will give him plenty of trouble.

    4. Ryan Nassib (6024/214), Syracuse - Nassib is a conundrum. He has a cannon with limited touch on short to intermediate routes, but his downfield throws look like rainbows. He is mobile, which leads to a lot of movement in the pocket while working through progressions. Some might like that, but I see it as a lack of comfort and possible a frenetic style.

    5. E.J. Manuel (6043/237), FSU - It is tough to get a good feel on Manuel. Jimbo Fisher did not do him any favors at FSU, and Manuel flashes some nice throws, but too often the Seminole is a step late on his progression or decision and has placement issues.

    6. Landry Jones (6032/221), Oklahoma - I don’t trust Landry as anything more than a fifth-round pick. In a clean pocket early in games he has made some impressive throws, but it tails off after that.

    Running Backs

    1. Johnathan Franklin (5100/201), UCLA - Off of his 2011 games, I considered Franklin an adequate but draftable prospect. Fast forward to this year and the Bruin showed much better vision when finding cutback lanes or working off blocks and his ability to make people miss at the second level was greatly enhanced. Don’t be surprised if we see him selected at the end of the second day.

    2. Stepfan Taylor (5090/216), Stanford - Taylor is shorter than I expected, but the Stanford product seems to find open areas and pick up tough yardage despite a lack of top-end speed. He may run a high 4.5 or 4.6 forty, but Taylor is a confident runner with tools to produce in a dual back role.

    3. Mike Gillislee (5112/207), Florida - A true front or strong side runner, Gillislee thrives on working behind pulling linemen between the tackles. Coaches will love the senior because he runs to his assigned lane, follows blocks, and can even create on strong cuts. Add in some good pass protection during the 2012 season, and Gillislee is likely a third- or fourth-round pick.

    4. Kenjon Barner (5092/188), Oregon - It may not be popular, but I prefer Barner to LaMichael James. Both have magnets that draw them to the sideline, and James may be a tick faster, but barner is more willing to run between the tackles and instead of pinballing off contact, he can actually absorb hits on occasion to pick up extra yards.

    5. Robbie Rouse (5057/186), Fresno State - Rouse is already drawing comparisons to Darren Sproles because of his size. I really like Rouse, but that comparison is unwarranted. First, the Fresno State grad doesn’t have the same short choppy steps as Sproles and instead of explosive cuts I would call Rouse’s open field moves “exaggerated”. Thats not an insult, since his game reminds me more of a smaller Brian Westbrook.

    6. Mike James (5105/212), Miami - I would have preferred to see a Shrine call up since James is a late rounder to me. Alen Dumonjic had a nice writeup on James back in November.

    (Andre Ellington dropped out of the event)

    Wide Receivers

    1. Quinton Patton (6000/200), Louisiana Tech - Smooth, fluid, and reliable. My fifth ranked player entering the week, Patton is the top senior receiver (excluding Tavon Austin who fits in his own category). I will continue to compare him to Reggie Wayne, as Patton doesn’t win with flashy moves or explosiveness. Instead, his wise route running and body control in routes and at the catch point are the qualities that will translate best in the NFL. Add on the fact that Patton faced plenty of press coverage, winning his individual battle on each occasion, and he is primed to produce early in his career.

    2. Markus Wheaton (5110/183), Oregon State - Wheaton will automatically help as a vertical threat in the NFL. Drawing comparisons to Mike Wallace, I actually believe Wheaton has a larger array of route running capabilities at this point in his career than Wallace did. His awareness along the sideline is an added bonus. These two have separated themselves from the pack of attending senior receivers.

    3. Terrance Williams (6017/201), Baylor - Williams reverted back to his 2011 form: A limited route tree and inconsistent hands. In 2012 he was much stronger at the catch point and was more reliable in that area. I had concerns that Williams could be stuck as a vertical target prior to the year, but he proved me differently in live action. During this week, however, those same thoughts started popping back into my head, especially seeing him fail to separate against safeties in man coverage.

    4. Aaron Dobson (6025/203), Marshall - Dobson will have a great highlight reel, but there are plenty of questions. The opposing corners beat Dobson to the catch point with physical play multiple times this week, but in running routes against air the Marshall receiver showed burst out of his breaks with concise footwork.

    5. Marquise Goodwin (5087/179), Texas - After watching him this week, the Longhorns really misused Goodwin. He was asked to run a lot of vertical routes, short screens, and jet sweeps or reverses in college. Despite that Goodwin was able to separate consistently against close coverage in a very natural way. He will struggle to get off the jam against press coverage, but Goodwin is very intriguing. Even if I have to use this week as the backbone of my evaluation (which I hate).

    6. Cobi Hamilton (6016/191), Arkansas - Hamilton’s game is built on strong running after the catch. he isn’t afraid to take a big hit on contact, either, but he doesn’t quite run like an explosive receiver in his routes.

    Tight Ends/Fullbacks

    1. Vance McDonald (6041/262), Rice - At Rice, McDonald was used in a variety of ways that either muddled his evaluation or showed off versatility. Yes, he had a number of drops this week, but McDonald is a very intriguing player and it has become obvious why he’s a favorite of Phil Savage.

    2. Michael Williams (6056/264), Alabama - Williams is the opposite of flashy, but he will play in the NFL for a long time because of his outstanding blocking for the position and large frame to shield defenders at the catch point. He will not get open unless he finds an open area or gets physical with a defensive back, but Williams is improving in that area.

    3. Nick Kasa (6054/271), Colorado - Another great blocker for the position, Kasa seemed to fight the ball when trying to adjust for catches, but that is to be expected for the former defensive lineman. With overlooked long speed, Kasa is a likely fourth- or fifth-round pick.

    4. Mychal Rivera (6032/237), Tennessee - Rivera built on his game each year at Tennessee, getting more and more comfortable working in the short to intermediate levels of defense and when hauling in catches.

    5. Ryan Otten (6052/235), San Jose State - Otten checked in seven pounds lighter than expected due to the flu, but his game is very similar to Gary Barnidge’s. It is tough to know if that is a compliment, because Barnidge is tough to figure out, but Otten runs upright with reliable hands.

    6. Kyle Juszczyk (6013/248), Harvard - I really liked what I saw from Juszczyk, who was making a conversion from a receiving role in the Ivy League to lead blocker. We know he can catch with comfort in the open field, but Juszczyk showed enough attitude and technique as a lead blocker to earn a draftable grade. He has deceptive long speed as well.

    Offensive Linemen

    1. Eric Fisher (6072/305), Central Michigan - There’s not much left to say about Fisher, but I believe he should be mentioned in the Luke Joeckel conversation as this class’ top offensive tackle. Fisher has quick hands and a strong extension to latch and ride or control his opposition immediately after the snap. His balance and base are also outstanding.

    2. Lane Johnson (6062/302), Oklahoma - He looks like a tight end (and probably moves like one) but Johnson is a bonafide left tackle with a chance to play on the right side if necessary. He could add more weight, which would help with getting jolted on first contact leading to moments of waist bending, but Johnson’s athletic footwork to recover and mirror is awesome. He’s likely a top-20 pick.

    3. Larry Warford (6032/333), Kentucky - There’s a lot of talk surrounding Chance Warmack, and rightfully so since he is likely the highest graded player in this draft. After that, UNC’s Jonathan Cooper gets a ton of love because of his agility when pulling and hitting targets at the second level. However, give me Warford because of his dominant, mauling style to consistently move or stone his opposition. And for his stout size, Warford is deceptively athletic.

    4. Kyle Long (6061/304), Oregon - Long is inexperienced but along with his bloodlines comes a hard nosed attitude to push his opponents. The Duck is also athletic, so the only question is if his future is at guard or tackle.

    5. Justin Pugh (6047/301), Syracuse - Pugh’s short arms may concern some, but if he gains a grip on his opponent on contact, the Syracuse product matches up very well with all types of rushers. He was occasionally driven into the backfield with force when facing length, but Pugh works best in close quarters and could move to guard.

    6. Brian Winters (6034/210) - I love Winters’ nasty, rugged style. He blocks to punish, and although that gets Winters into trouble at times since he overextends, it will benefit him in the long run. He played tackle in college, but I expect Winters to play guard int he NFL.

    (Dallas Thomas dropped out of the event)

    Josh Norris is an NFL Draft Analyst for Rotoworld.

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  • RamBill
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    Senior Bowl Twitter Play-by-Play

    Multiple Draft Scouts/Analysts Were Tweeting During the Senior Bowl.
    You can get a good feel for how the players did during the game. Lots of good notes and nuggets are in there from a variety of good sources. Warning: Very Long Post

    Here is some sample tweets-

    Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler

    For me, Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson and Ziggy Ansah will be the top-3 Senior Bowlers drafted, but who is next?

    Walter Cherepinsky Walter Cherepinsky ‏@walterfootball

    #BYU DE Ziggy Ansah was just OK in practice. Was thinking too much. He’s been a monster today.

    NFL Draft Bible NFL Draft Bible ‏@NFLDraftBible

    Purdue defensive tackle KAWANN SHORT earned him some 1st round $money today. Nobody has had their name called more. #SenorBowl #NFLdraft

    NFL Draft Bible NFL Draft Bible ‏@NFLDraftBible

    Texas wr MARQUISE GOODWIN looks like a cross between AZ-ZAHIR HAKIM and SANTANA MOSS. Whether 5’8 frame can hold up over 16-games is the ?

    Ryan Lownes Ryan Lownes ‏@ryanlownes

    Following a strong week of practice, #Oklahoma LT Lane Johnson has stood out again today. Making himself a lot money at the #SeniorBowl

    Todd McShay Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

    Glad to see more from BYU DE Ansah today than we saw from him in practices. Rare skill set but scary raw.

    Dane Brugler Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler

    In a perfect world, #NCState QB Mike Glennon should be drafted about the same range as Nick Foles a yr ago…he won’t last that long though

    Rob Rang Rob Rang ‏@RobRang

    Have to add Nassib to list of underwhelming performers. Mentioned WR Williams previously. Chase Thomas, Jordan Poyer too. Liked all on tape.

    Read All Senior Bowl Tweets



    Last edited by RamBill; -01-26-2013, 06:00 PM.

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  • RamBill
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    Pat Kirwan’s Senior Bowl standouts: Defense

    Who are the top defensive players at the Senior Bowl this year? CBSSports.com NFL Insider Pat Kirwan joins Adam Aizer to point out the best athletes on defense.

    Watch Kirwan's Defensive Standouts

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  • RamBill
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    Pat Kirwan’s Senior Bowl Standouts: Offense

    CBSSports.com NFL Insider Pat Kirwan joins Adam Aizer to discuss the top offensive players at the Senior Bowl. Find out which weapons to watch out for this year. Good overview from Kirwan (TRT-5:00)

    Watch Kirwan Discuss Offensive Players at the Senior Bowl

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  • RamBill
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    Fox Sports Senior Bowl Update

    Alex Marvez with the latest from the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.

    Watch Marvez's Senior Bowl Update

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  • citr92
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    Re: The Official 2013 Senior Bowl Thread

    Originally posted by sosa39rams View Post
    Guys a beast. Looks like he weighs 280 lbs, very impressive.
    don't forget terrance cody looking like crap lol

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  • RamBill
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    McShay’s Senior Bowl Players To Watch

    ESPN’s Todd McShay discusses some players to watch in the Senior Bowl: Denard Robinson, Mike Glennon, Lane Johnson and Eric Fisher.

    Watch McShay's Senior Bowl Players to Watch

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  • shower beers
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    Re: The Official 2013 Senior Bowl Thread

    No Denard, please and thank you. I've watched him for the last few years and his skill set will be very, very hard to translate well to the pro game.

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  • Vinnie25
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    Re: The Official 2013 Senior Bowl Thread

    Originally posted by TekeRam View Post
    7th pick in the draft? Well I suppose that the best linebacker to ever play the game IS worth the 7th pick overall... ;)

    With the chances of us getting Fisher and Warmack all but gone, I think that the kid from down the street(I living Lexington, KY, remember) would be a good 2nd-3rd round consolation prize for OG. Besides, a Ford made for War is so much better than whatever the hell a Mack made for War would be. Warford is strong and stout and could really push the pile. The Saints get by with dominant guards and so so tackles.

    And what do people think about Robinson? I don't know if he's just a not as well liked Tebow who has skills but is too much of a tweener, or if he's just a project that is one of those Patriot-like picks, where you draft him late and then he becomes an all-purpose star.
    Tim Tebow is 6-3 and 240 pounds while Denard is barely 6 feet and 195 pounds... not to mention Denard doesn't share half the intangibles that Tebow had leaving college. If he does pretty well at the Combine I wouldn't mind the Rams taking a flier on him in the later rounds. Maybe use him in a couple trick plays now and then... you know how Jeff Fisher loves his trick plays lol

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  • MauiRam
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    Central Michigan's Fisher leads parade of tackles at Senior Bowl

    Central Michigan's Fisher leads parade of tackles at Senior Bowl

    • By Jim Thomas

    MOBILE, ALA. • During his recruiting trip to Central Michigan, Eric Fisher couldn’t help but notice Joe Staley’s picture displayed prominently on the wall.

    “I told myself I want to be that guy, too,” Fisher said.

    Fisher should get that chance. Staley was a first-round draft pick by San Francisco in 2008 out of Central Michigan who has blossomed into one of the NFL’s top left tackles. Staley’s a two-time Pro Bowler who will be blocking for Colin Kaepernick, Frank Gore & Co. in Super Bowl XLVII against Baltimore.

    As the top offensive tackle competing in this week’s Senior Bowl, Fisher looks like a sure thing as a first-rounder in April’s NFL draft. The decisions by Jake Matthews of Texas A&M and Taylor Lewan of Michigan to stay in school have pushed Fisher up the chart. Some observers project him as the second-best tackle in the draft pool this year, behind only Luke Joeckel of Texas A&M.

    “I try not to pay attention to that stuff,” Fisher said. “I just try to become a better offensive lineman every day. I’ve really worked on my game, and this is a huge opportunity for me down here coming out of a MAC school to play against some of the elite.”

    The Rochester, Mich., native was not heavily recruited out of high school, getting only one other scholarship offer – from fellow Mid-American Conference school Eastern Michigan. He was lean 242 pounds entering college, which may partly explain it. But he has gradually filled out his 6-foot-7 frame, weighing in at 305 pounds at the Senior Bowl.

    After starting games at right tackle, left tackle, and right guard as a freshman and sophomore, Fisher settled in at left tackle his final two seasons at Central Michigan. As his success and reputation increased, so did the comparisons to Staley.

    “I get that a lot,” Fisher said. “I like watching Joe play on Sundays. He’s a very athletic (tackle). I take pride in being an athletic offensive lineman. I think it’s kind of changing in the league to more athletic offensive linemen. So I just try to play how I’m comfortable playing. It’s working out pretty good.”

    That’s for sure. Fisher has performed well during the first two days of Senior Bowls workouts, and that may push him out of draft consideration for the Rams, who have the No. 16 and No. 22 overall picks in the first round. Not to mention a pressing need at offensive tackle.

    This season’s primary starters were Rodger Saffold at left tackle and Barry Richardson at right tackle. Richardson is scheduled for unrestricted free agency this offseason, and Saffold is entering the final year of his contract. So the shelves have to be re-stocked at that position.

    Russ Lande of NationalFootballPost.com and a former NFL (and Rams) scout, thinks Fisher could go as high as No. 11 overall to San Diego.

    “He’s tremendously athletic,” Lande said. “He can pull. He can get out in space. The only issue is he’s a little bit of an upright guy when you watch him block. He’s a real tall kid. A lot of those tall guys have that issue.

    “He’s not a real powerful kid; you can jolt him and drive him. But when I look at what he can do – holy cow. He’s so athletic, and he’s a real nasty guy.”

    Fisher and North squad defensive ends Datone Jones of UCLA and Alex Okafor of Texas have had some intense practice battles so far this week, so there’s no doubting Fisher’s competitiveness. And that helps explain why he’s so excited to be in Mobile this week.

    “I think a lot of people, including myself, wanted to see me go against the elite competition,” Fisher said. “Going against these guys from the SEC and stuff in this game will be great for me I think just to prove that I am worthy of being here.

    “It’s a great honor to be here. Not many players get to come here. I think I’m only the third player out of Central Michigan to come here.”

    The next tier of offensive tackles behind Fisher includes Lane Johnson of Oklahoma and Oday Aboushi of Virginia, both members of the South squad.

    Johnson was a high school quarterback and played QB for a year in junior college. But he kept growing, and at Oklahoma went from tight end, to defensive end, to a third-team all-American offensive tackle as a senior. Johnson (6-6, 303) played right tackle as a junior and left tackle as a senior.

    “He’s a long, linear kid,” Lande said. “He can bend his knees which is rare for a big, tall kid. He’s got a chance.”

    (Blocking is a leverage game, and the “knee-benders” usually get better leverage.)

    Virginia’s Aboushi isn’t as flashy as some of the other top tackles in terms of athleticism, but brings some Brooklyn toughness to the table – which is where he’s from. Syracuse’s Justin Pugh may end up playing guard after being measured in with only a 31½-inch reach. (Longer arms are desirable for NFL tackles for punching out on pass rushers.)

    Like most Wisconsin offensive linemen, Rick Wagner is super competitive and smart. But he’s a little stiff in his movements and may be a right tackle only, or maybe a guard in the NFL. Small-school prospect Garrett Gilkey of Chadron State has been working at guard at the Senior Bowl.

    Alabama’s mammoth D.J. Fluker (6-5, 355) attended Monday’s weigh-in/measurement session, but then excluded himself from Senior Bowl practices and Saturday’s game because of a groin and calf problems.

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  • TekeRam
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    Re: The Official 2013 Senior Bowl Thread

    Originally posted by HUbison View Post
    See?! What did I tell you guys?? Greatest LB ever!!!

    I don't know that I will do a mock draft. But IF I do, there should be ZERO doubt as to who the Rams 7th round pick will be.
    7th pick in the draft? Well I suppose that the best linebacker to ever play the game IS worth the 7th pick overall... ;)

    With the chances of us getting Fisher and Warmack all but gone, I think that the kid from down the street(I living Lexington, KY, remember) would be a good 2nd-3rd round consolation prize for OG. Besides, a Ford made for War is so much better than whatever the hell a Mack made for War would be. Warford is strong and stout and could really push the pile. The Saints get by with dominant guards and so so tackles.

    And what do people think about Robinson? I don't know if he's just a not as well liked Tebow who has skills but is too much of a tweener, or if he's just a project that is one of those Patriot-like picks, where you draft him late and then he becomes an all-purpose star.

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  • HUbison
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    Re: The Official 2013 Senior Bowl Thread

    Ty Powell DE/LB Harding - One of the best stories of the upcoming 2013 NFL Draft is Harding's Ty Powell. Owning a humble background, Powell started to pop up on the NFL's radar midway through the 2012 season as he went on to produce 8.5 sacks and 15 tackles for loss this season. I watched Ty Powell in person last week as he prepared for Combine drills and was very impressed with his combination of size (6'2, 245) and athleticism. Recruited to Harding as a safety, Powell has the light feet and explosion of a former safety, however owns the size that will draw attention from teams needing pass rush help. Powell had a very good week this week as he displayed that athleticism, both in rushing the passer and in dropping back into coverage. At the next level, Powell will project best as a 3-4 outside rush linebacker, however he offers great schematic versatility and will be drawing plenty of interest this spring from NFL teams.
    See?! What did I tell you guys?? Greatest LB ever!!!

    I don't know that I will do a mock draft. But IF I do, there should be ZERO doubt as to who the Rams 7th round pick will be.

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  • RamBill
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    Players Who Struggled on Wednesday

    Senior Bowl - Players Who Struggled on Wednesday.

    Russ Lande breaksdown six players who struggled during Wednesday's Senior Bowl Practices.
    January 23, 2013

    Senior Bowl - Players Who Struggled on Wednesday. | National Football Post

    1. Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford (6031, 241 and 4.85): Thomas looked stiff in space as he showed poor lateral agility and range. Today he struggled identifying plays quickly in the backfield, an issue compounded by his lack of explosion. During one-on-one drills he looked spastic and out of control with his movements, and was not able to defeat his man.

    2. Robert Lester, SAF, Alabama (6012, 212 and 4.60): Lester has had a rough week in Mobile and simply looks outmatched athletically. Today struggled to stay with TEs and failed to locate the ball in coverage once he turned his back to the QB. He looked stiff and mechanical changing directions and struggled to locate the ball on run plays.

    3. Denard Robinson, WR, Michigan (5104, 196 and 4.35): Robinson’s natural explosiveness and all-around athleticism was obvious today, but he did little else to impress scouts during this morning’s practice. His routes weren’t crisp and he struggled to get consistent separation out of his breaks. He generally did not display good hands as he fought the ball throughout practice. This was the first day he was allowed to participate in team drills but was a non-factor. Today capped off a rough week for Robinson, and he will need to significantly elevate his game on Saturday in order to improve his draft stock.

    4. Zac Dysert, QB, Miami (OH) (6027, 224 and 4.85): Dysert’s passes lacked accuracy today and tended to dip in front of his receivers. The velocity of his throws also lacked consistency and often fluttered in the air. Overall this week, Dysert did not display the skill set expected out of a high draft pick as he looked more like a day three pick.

    5. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (6082, 277 and 4.80): Today Hunt showed flashes of what makes him such an intriguing prospect, but generally was ineffective because of his still very raw skillset. While he demonstrated the ability to lock out against blockers and control the POA, he was unable to shed blocks in time to get involved with plays, and generally was not effective with his hands. He also displayed an explosive first step off the ball but tended to get upright once on the edge, allowing his blocker to recover easily and get into his frame. Despite clearly being a physical talent, it is difficult to imagine Hunt will be a first round pick in April as some have previously hypothesized.

    6. Hugh Thornton, OG, Illinois (6032, 313 and 5.20): Thornton was unable to repeat his strong performance from yesterday, as struggled with his balance throughout this morning’s practice. He tended to duck his head and bend at the waist after initially making contact, causing him to fall off blocks too early. He also struggled with bull rushes, as he was too easily jolted off balance by aggressive defenders.

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    Senior Bowl Stock Watch

    By Shawn Zobel

    Shawn Zobel's Draft Headquarters Website - Best of the best for NFL Draft Information!

    Although there were a handful of talented players that dropped out of the Senior Bowl for several reasons, this week was a productive one for some and a week for others to forget as the top seniors in the country came together for the top all-star game of the offseason. Here are my risers and sliders in my Senior Bowl Stock Watch:

    Risers

    Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan - Coming into this week, Central Michigan's Eric Fisher was graded as my No. 11 overall player in this year's draft after watching coaches film of him from this season. At the Senior Bowl, Fisher lived up to those expectations and did not disappoint, as he displayed the combination of power and agility to excel in both the run game and in pass protection. While there were a few minor hiccups that can be coached out him, Fisher looks the part at 6'7 and displayed all of the tools that you look for in a future blindside protector in the NFL. Fisher is a legitimate Top 15 pick and stands a very good chance of going in the Top 10 following his strong performance this week.

    Datone Jones DE/DT UCLA - At 280 pounds, when you can rush the passer from both defensive end and inside at defensive tackle, as well as have experience and production doing it on film, NFL teams are going to take notice. Such is the case with UCLA's Datone Jones, who looked fantastic this week in pass rush drills, showing the speed to run the arc outside as well as the agility and explosion to collapse the pocket from inside at tackle. Jones looks like a future first round pick whose versatility in a 4-3 defense will be outstanding.

    Ty Powell DE/LB Harding - One of the best stories of the upcoming 2013 NFL Draft is Harding's Ty Powell. Owning a humble background, Powell started to pop up on the NFL's radar midway through the 2012 season as he went on to produce 8.5 sacks and 15 tackles for loss this season. I watched Ty Powell in person last week as he prepared for Combine drills and was very impressed with his combination of size (6'2, 245) and athleticism. Recruited to Harding as a safety, Powell has the light feet and explosion of a former safety, however owns the size that will draw attention from teams needing pass rush help. Powell had a very good week this week as he displayed that athleticism, both in rushing the passer and in dropping back into coverage. At the next level, Powell will project best as a 3-4 outside rush linebacker, however he offers great schematic versatility and will be drawing plenty of interest this spring from NFL teams.

    Jamar Taylor CB Boise State - This season, Boise's Jamar Taylor very quietly shut down opposing wide receivers as Boise State leaned on his athleticism and size to essentially cover his side of the field. That was the case this week in Mobile, as Taylor displayed outstanding man-to-man cover skills and proved that he has the tools and skillset needed to develop into a future starting cornerback in the NFL. Taylor stands a strong chance of cracking the opening frame of the draft this spring with a good Combine workout.

    Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma - While Eric Fisher was dominating on the North squad, Oklahoma's Lane Johnson was impressing on the South roster. A tall, lean prospect who most initially viewed as a finesse blocker, Johnson combined his great athleticism with the type of strength needed to be an impact run blocker at the next level. When you combine his high ceiling with his production this season and this week at the Senior Bowl, Johnson looks very much like a first round pick for a team this spring.

    Desmond Trufant CB Washington - When scouting defensive backs, confidence is one trait that you typically like to see, especially at the cornerback position. If Washington's Desmond Trufant was graded simply on confidence, he'd own one of the best grades in the draft coming out of this week. Trufant, whose bloodlines are well-known, displayed the type of tools that you typically find in a future shutdown cornerback, showing the ability to break quickly as well as the physical nature needed to press opposing receivers at the next level. With a strong Combine, Trufant is another cornerback who will work his way into the first round consideration.

    Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas - After watching Arkansas' Tyler Wilson in person a week ago, I stated that he was my top-rated quarterback in this year's draft. Having the opportunity to watch him again in person here in Mobile, Wilson solidified that opinions as he stood out as the top quarterback prospect in attendance. While a tad shorter than you'd prefer at 6'2, Wilson owns the arm strength and velocity needed to be a successful and efficient quarterback in the NFL. Over the course of this week, Wilson delivered the ball with better accuracy and showed the type of touch and command needed to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. After this week, if I needed to spend a first round pick on a quarterback from this year's draft, I would likely select Wilson.

    Larry Warford OG Kentucky - For much of the 2012 season, Kentucky's Larry Warford was known more for his ability to pave holes in the run game than he was for his work in pass protection. However, this week Warford (6'3, 333) stood out as an outstanding anchor, showing the type of natural lower body strength needed to stonewall opposing bull rushers inside. Warford isn't going to be the first offensive guard drafted this spring, however he certainly helped himself this week and will be coveted in April.

    Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford - No running back had a better performance this week than Stanford's Stepfan Taylor who simply ran like a man possessed. Every opportunity that Taylor had to touch the ball, he ran like it was going to be the last carry of his career, showing the acceleration through the hole as well as the strength and leg drive needed to run through tacklers at the second level. In a year with several senior running backs vying to be drafted first, Taylor has stood out as one player that teams will be keeping a closer eye on in the next three months.



    Sliders

    Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse - Coming into the Senior Bowl practices, some in the media suggested that Ryan Nassib was the best quarterback in the country and worthy of a high first round pick; I came into this week with a fourth round grade on Nassib. In three days of practice, Nassib's accuracy was consistently off the mark, showing little ability to drive the ball down the field, but rather float passes by putting too much air underneath them resulting underthrown balls and a few interceptions. While some of these problems can be coached out of him, to me, Nassib is an average prospect who was the product of a great system that landed his head coach a new head coaching job in the NFL. Nassib has enough of the tools needed to be an adequate West Coast quarterback in the NFL, however asking him to win games with his arm at the next level would be a major stretch. For what it's worth, I've been watching Nassib since he debuted against Minnesota in 2009 as a redshirt freshman, and never thought of him as a top prospect. To me, he was more disappointing than any other quarterback this week.

    Margus Hunt DE SMU - When you weigh in at 6'8, 277 pounds, people are going to take notice. However, for those that watched SMU's Margus Hunt during the 2012 season, they would not be surprised with how far away Hunt is from being a legitimate prospect in this year's draft. A complete developmental project, Hunt's physical tools are there to mold, however he's also an inconsistent player who has yet to learn how to use those tools to his advantage. This week was more of the same for Hunt, as he struggled to produce as a pass rusher, often being neutralized by the opposing offensive lineman he was matched up with. Hunt doesn't project as anything more than a mid-round pick this spring on my board.

    Denard Robinson WR Michigan - When athletes at the quarterback position don't have the skillset to be a signal caller at the next level, they are often tried out at receiver. For Michigan's Denard Robinson it was no different. However, for Robinson, it's going to take him awhile to get his feet underneath him at his new position, and that was very apparent this week. Robinson looked shaky as a route runner and uncomfortable as a returner on special teams. To me, Denard Robinson projects better as a running back prospect, where his natural skills in carrying the football would be best served. Either way, Robinson isn't going to be drafted as anything more than a late-round project this spring.

    Robbie Rouse RB Fresno State - Although I enjoy watching Fresno's Robbie Rouse run the football, anytime a player weighs in at just 5'5, 186 pounds, there's no doubt that his lack of height is going to be cause for concern. Rouse has a major uphill battle this spring to prove to teams that he is the exception to the rule that 5-foot, 5-inch runners don't make it at the next level.

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    NFL scouts may have taken off Super Bowl Sunday to watch the Baltimore Ravens hold on to beat the San Francisco *****, but the final game of the 2012 NFL season served as the unofficial kickoff to their time to shine.

    With the official underclassmen list settled, the senior all-star games wrapped up and the annual scouting combine on deck, some teams have already begun building the boards that will serve as their draft-day master lists. The rankings below serve this same purpose.

    The Big Board isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or the draft order. It is simply a ranking of the 64 best draft-eligible prospects in the entire country.

    Underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk (*).

    1. *Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M: Having earned all-conference recognition all three years of his career, Joeckel has cemented his stock as the top offensive tackle in college football. In answering the unique challenges presented by SEC defenders this season, he earned the Outland Trophy as the nation's best lineman and vaulted himself to the top of this draft board. Redshirt freshman quarterback Johnny Manziel may have won the Heisman Trophy, but Joeckel could be the one holding the bigger prize -- the thrill of being the first offensive lineman since Jake Long (2008) to be selected No. 1 overall.

    2. *Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: A first-team All-SEC pick in each of his two eligible seasons at Georgia, Jones has proven himself to be a playmaker against both the pass and run. The 6-foot-3, 241-pound Jones led the country in three critical statistics -- sacks (14½), tackles for loss (24½) and forced fumbles (seven) despite missing two games (Kentucky, Florida Atlantic) due to injury. As dynamic as he is, the redshirt junior's medical grade will ultimately determine his draft status. He was diagnosed with a mild case of spinal stenosis in 2009 and some NFL doctors may be unwilling to clear him.

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    Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech: Polished route runners with outstanding hands and ball skills never go out of style in the NFL. Patton is not only exceptional in both areas, but also is a big-game player with a knack for raising his level of play against elite competition. In key games against Texas A&M, Utah State and San Jose State, Patton totaled 42 receptions for 539 yards with six touchdowns. Now, Patton struggled a bit against Houston cornerback D.J. Hayden's aggressive press tactics, but Pattton's game remains ideally suited for the NFL. If he lands with a team that features a quick-rhythm passing game designed to get the ball to playmakers on the move, Patton could shine as a pro early in his career.

    Kyle Long, OL, Oregon: If not for a series of off-field incidents, he would garner serious consideration at the bottom of the first round. Long is a standout athlete with the size and frame to play guard or tackle as a pro. Most teams will attempt to place Long at tackle, likely on the right side, but I believe he could develop into an elite interior blocker. Checking in at 6-foot-6 and 313 pounds, Long is strong enough to move defenders off the ball, while displaying the athleticism to block on the move on pulls, traps or zone assignments. Of course, he still needs some footwork and skill refinement, but all of the physical attributes suggest Long should be a long-term starter in the NFL.

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    Each player involved is paraded on stage in front of hundreds of NFL scouts with his shirt and shoes off, wearing only skin-tight athletic pants. Players' heights are recorded to the eighth of an inch with their weight, arm length, wingspan and hand size (measured from the out-stretched thumb to pinkie) all announced to the crowd.

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