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  • Rich Gannon says he's confident

    JANIE McCAULEY
    AP Sports Writer
    ALAMEDA, Calif. Rich Gannon is more than a year removed from his MVP award, turns 39 in December, and swears he is 100 percent healthy and not the least bit concerned about the addition of backup Kerry Collins to the Oakland Raiders' quarterback mix.

    Gannon's still No. 1 in the minds of the Raiders and Collins, too.

    "I'm as hard on myself as anybody," Gannon said Tuesday, when the Raiders began a three-day voluntary minicamp. "I set the bar very high I think as anyone who's been around me would know. I don't really need anybody to come in to make me work harder to compete, to help me focus or challenge myself.

    "In my opinion, I'm here to work with Kerry and help him and help our team win. That's what my focus is going to be."

    Gannon had one of the most productive offseasons of his 17-year career as he recovered from surgery to repair a tear in his shoulder. He's been throwing almost every day this spring.

    He was knocked out of the Raiders' 17-10 loss to Kansas City last Oct. 20 and had surgery in November.

    "If I threw three days a week in the offseason that was a lot. Now I'm throwing every day," Gannon said. "I'm much further ahead than I would have been had I not had the surgery."

    He has looked crisp and strong in both minicamps so far. He completed a few passes of more than 25 yards Tuesday, though the bulk of his tries were shorter than 15.

    There had been speculation the Raiders might opt not to take on the $7 million salary Gannon is set to make in 2004 and he has repeatedly said he won't take a pay cut. The franchise hasn't seemed to lose faith in the man who led them to the 2002 Super Bowl.

    "I've seen Rich from the other side of the field numerous times," new coach Norv Turner said. "Seeing him on this side of the field, he's throwing the ball extremely well. He's one of the more accurate guys I've ever been around."

    The Raiders contacted Gannon to inform him they planned to sign Collins, a big, strong-armed quarterback who led a team to the Super Bowl just over three years ago. He was released by the New York Giants on April 28, four days after they acquired Eli Manning, the No. 1 pick in the draft.

    Gannon's reaction?

    "I don't know what people think, but I do have some intelligence," Gannon said. "You know, I am 38 years old. I think that they looked at what happened a year ago when I did get hurt and they probably felt like they needed to continue to try and improve that position. And, so, it made a lot of sense to me. It didn't surprise me at all."

    After Oakland ended last season 4-12 only a year after winning the AFC title the worst collapse by a previous year's Super Bowl team Gannon criticized the Raiders. He believes he unfairly became the organization's scapegoat in the first seven weeks of the season when no one stepped forward to take responsibility for the failures.

    He later met with owner Al Davis.

    During the Raiders' Super Bowl season, Gannon led the NFL's top offense and broke the league completions record with 418 on the way to MVP honors. He led the NFL with 4,689 yards passing.

    Turner plans to give Gannon and Collins nearly equal reps during this minicamp and in training camp, which begins July 30.

    Collins said he understands his position.

    "Rich is certainly capable of running this offense and running it well," Collins said. "All I know is what the situation is right now, and I don't think the situation is going to change any time soon. ... I certainly feel that I'm a starting quarterback in this league, but that's not my role here. But that's not going to keep me from working hard in practice and competing in practice with the young guys."

    Marques Tuiasosopo, the No. 2 quarterback last season before going on injured reserve with a torn ligament in his left knee, is not excited about his diminished role, but plans to stay ready in case he's needed.

    He's expecting only about 15 to 20 reps per practice during camp.

    "It's something pretty much out of my control," he said. "I have to go out and focus on getting better and keep playing. ... I've competed my whole life. This is nothing new."

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    Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

    Hey, I'm a confident man also. However, I guarantee if I asked Heidi Klum out she'd say no. Same with Gannon. You could be confident all you want, but if you've lost it you've lost it.

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    • #3
      Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

      I hesitate to even ask this. And please understand I'm not trying to start another "great debate", I'm just curious: Why do you think the Raiders stuck with a 39-year-old QB, former MVP, recovering from injury while the Rams sent their 34-year-old QB, former MVP, recovering from injury packing?

      And please don't just say because Davis, Turner, Raiders FO, Martz, or Rams FO are idiots. Really what do you think is the difference in the two situations?
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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      • #4
        Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

        Honestly, I think it's Gannon's attitude. He was yelling at anyone and everyone he could last year without looking at himself in the mirror.

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        • #5
          Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

          Originally posted by txramsfan
          Hey, I'm a confident man also. However, I guarantee if I asked Heidi Klum out she'd say no. Same with Gannon.
          Don't sell yourself short, TX. While Heidi might spurn your advances, I think Gannon just might go out with you. :tongue:

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          • #6
            Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

            The Rams went with the younger, healthier and yes BETTER qb. As far as Gannon hes 39 and has a gun and can run, hell I would love to see him run the Rams offense. Collins is an insurance policy incase Gannon goes down. Gotta have a quality backup in this league dont ya know. Ala, Chandler

            :ramlogo:

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            • #7
              Re: Rich Gannon says he's confident

              Originally posted by HUbison
              Why do you think the Raiders stuck with a 39-year-old QB, former MVP, recovering from injury while the Rams sent their 34-year-old QB, former MVP, recovering from injury packing?
              Because Gannon was one year removed from the Super Bowl and Warner is two. Gannon was dominating in 2002 and had an off year in 2003; he's had one bad year since his Super Bowl season. Meanwhile, Warner has had two years since 2001 and his last Super Bowl, and he hasn't been the same since.

              Keep in mind there are those speculating that the Raiders are keeping Gannon on their roster as long as possible but plan to let him go before the start of the season, just so he can't go to another team -- like the Bucs -- and spend time in their camp and claim their starting job.

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                Friday, June 25, 2004 - ALAMEDA -- Rod Woodson and Barret Robbins are Oakland Raiders whose rsums include having been named to the Pro Bowl as recently as 2002.

                Now whether they will be able to so much as play in 2004 will depend largely on modern medical science -- and no one knows the odds of whether the medicine will take.

                Both underwent unique knee operations in the off-season. Surgery involved cartilage replacement taken from cadavers. It is an operation that has worked with weekend athletes but never with professional athletes -- at least not successfully. Although doctors have performed cadaver ligament replacement surgery, cartilage is different. In the past, when cartilage was gone, it was gone. Now with replacement cartilage there is hope, but to be effective, the new cartilage must flourish and grow once implanted.

                If one were to refer to it as a "last chance" procedure, it wouldn't be a stretch.

                "It's what arthritis is," Woodson said. "Bone on bone. I don't have any cartilage. If this works out, a lot of people are going to have this surgery. It's an aggressive procedure, and it's really the only way to get cartilage back. You never really grow true cartilage back -- you just grow scar tissue cartilage.

                "We're all waiting to see how it works out."

                Bone grating on bone, Robbins struggled last year before finally shutting it down the final month of the season. Matters had gone beyond the point where he feared he might not play again.

                "I knew I wasn't," Robbins said. "When they released me from the hospital before the surgery, they said my knee was basically that of a 70-year old. Hopefully, I've got it down to the low 40s now."

                Neither Woodson nor Robbins participated in the team's three-day minicamp that concluded Thursday. If a player was 30 or older, he was excused. But with Woodson and Robbins, it's been a patient wait since their February surgeries.

                "Neither of them has been able to participate in the (off-season) work we are doing," coach Norv Turner said. "We know it is going to be hard for them to come back, so you have to plan as if they are not coming back. To me, when you get in a situation like (this one), it is a bonus if they can make it back."

                Contingency plans involve free agent and rookie acquisitions. Oakland signed veteran Ray Buchanan, and he is currently the starting free safety. They also drafted Stuart Schweigert, who broke Woodson's interception records at Purdue, in the third round.

                At center, the team drafted Virginia Tech center Jake Grove in the second round. He joins returning veteran Adam Treu, who has relieved Robbins whenever needed -- including that Super Bowl day in January 2003 when Robbins went AWOL before the team's showdown with Tampa Bay.
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              • HUbison
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                By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
                July 23, 2004
                ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -- Former Pro Bowl center Barret Robbins was released by the Oakland Raiders on Friday, a week after he and two other players were fined three game checks for testing positive for the steroid THG.

                Robbins confirmed that he had failed the exam and added: ``I'm OK. I just don't want to talk about this right now.''

                Robbins, who began training camp last year on the physically unable to perform list, missed two meetings and a walkthrough practice before the 2003 Super Bowl and didn't play in the game. Bill Callahan, then the Raiders coach, said Robbins was incoherent and didn't know where he was when he showed up Saturday night before the game.


                Callahan deactivated him and Adam Treu started in his place.

                Last season, Robbins showed a new dedication to the Raiders and his teammates following several months of difficulty following that game. He is a recovering alcoholic and was subsequently diagnosed with bipolar disorder. He spent 31 days at the Betty Ford Center and was determined to repair his image -- and to return to the Raiders alongside a few teammates who initially didn't want him back.

                Robbins, teammate Chris Cooper and free agent Dana Stubblefield were fined three game checks last week for the THG violation. The case had been pending since last fall and the checks were for 2003 rather than 2004.

                They also were placed on ``reasonable-cause testing'' for the rest of their careers, and will be suspended for eight games if they test positive for any steroid again.

                Robbins, who has played all nine of his pro seasons with Oakland, said he would like to stay in football, but wasn't sure what's next for him.

                Robbins made the Pro Bowl for the first time after the 2002 season, but did not play in the game. A year after missing the final 14 games of 2001 with an injured right knee, he was a pivotal part of an offensive line that helped the Raiders produce the league's top offense.

                ``Barret has been a valuable member of the Raider organization and has been an integral part of the success of the Silver and Black,'' new coach Norv Turner said. ``He has kept the Raiders tradition of great centers alive and we wish him well in his future endeavors.''

                Robbins said he has appreciated all the support from Raiders fans.

                ``Keep coming to the games,'' he said. ``It's been an honor to be a Raider.''

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                ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders are prepared to deal with what could be a lengthy holdout by star cornerback Charles Woodson.

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                The Raiders placed the franchise tag on Woodson, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, in February. With the franchise designation, he would make about $8.8 million this season, but Woodson hasn't signed the Raiders' tender.

                By not signing, he's technically not on the roster and can't be fined for missing practice once the team starts training camp Friday in Napa.

                Meanwhile, Oakland was close to signing top draft pick Robert Gallery, a 6-foot-7, 323-pound offensive tackle who is expected to compete for a starting job right away. He is considered the best offensive line prospect since Orlando Pace went No. 1 overall to St. Louis in 1997.

                Woodson, who's entering his seventh pro season, has said he wants a big-money long-term contract.

                Several other stars have annually stayed out of camp as franchise players.

                "I've not talked to him in a while," coach Norv Turner said Wednesday. "Charles is doing the things he has to do physically to get ready. ... I don't know how you judge to say it's going to be a long time or it's going to be soon. I'd like to have him soon, and hopefully we will.

                Turner added that he doesn't expect Woodson to hold out all year. A call to Woodson's agent, Carl Poston, was not immediately returned Wednesday.

                All-Pro linebacker Julian Peterson of San Francisco also is expected to hold out as a franchise player. Peterson is represented by Poston's brother, Kevin. Pace, the Rams' franchise player, is another holdout whose agent is Carl Poston.

                "I can't really give you an update," Turner said. "We're in the same situation four or five teams are with the franchise tag. I'm not sure that any of them will get resolved real fast. I'm anxious and optimistic something will get done and we'll get him in camp as soon as we can.

                "We've had 24 practices. We've had great practices. I don't see it affecting what we're trying to get done. We want to get Charles in here. He's a heck of a player. We're better with him than without him."

                Woodson, selected by the Raiders in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft, was the most outspoken critic of fired coach Bill Callahan. Woodson said after last season he would not play for Callahan, who was eventually fired by owner Al Davis after the team's 4-12 season -- the worst collapse by a team that reached the Super Bowl the previous season.

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