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  • As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate the media?

    Here's the latest. On radio talk shows... on the internet... in the newspapers... the latest trend with respect to the Michael Vick fiasco is to ask "why are we giving this so much attention?" or "aren't we overreacting?" or (my favorite) "why don't we pay this much attention to crimes against humans?"

    Let's be perfectly clear here. The media is responsible for this whole thing. The cycle goes like this:

    1. Build up a young exciting player by over-hyping him as "the next ______" even before he plays a down in the league.

    2. Continue to build him up even as his actual peformance shows serious limitations, to the point where endorsement deals bring him to near iconic status.

    3. Break the big story of his fall from grace, then splash it on the front page for weeks.

    4. When people start getting bored, take the other side and accuse the public of making too much of the story.

    5. Make Michael Vick the victim.

    6. Hope he comes back so you can really sell a "from the ashes" story.

    We've seen it before. Mike Tyson went through the whole cycle. The media is itching for guys like A-Rod to fall. Even outside the sports world, we see the same pattern with actors and musicians.

    The reality is that Vick is almost certainly guilty of crimes that deserve punishment. Others have done worse things, but that does not excuse Vick or reduce the necessity to deal with his actions harshly. But all that said, if Vick were merely an average NFL QB (let's say Chad Pennington or Aaron Brooks or Jeff Garcia) who wasn't built up like Vick was, it wouldn't be such a big story.

    Mark Twain said it best. "If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed."

  • #2
    Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

    That is a great Mark Twain quote. The media is very powerful and the masses are easily entertained. Michael Vick has risen and fallen with the media's attention. He would not be much without them.


    • #3
      Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

      Just finish digging Vicks hole. Throw him in and cover it up, already.

      I want to read about the RAMS.:r
      sigpic :ram::helmet:


      • #4
        Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

        exactly rams all the way baby.


        • #5
          Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

          Mark Twain said it best. "If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed."
          Couldn't have said it better myself!

          GO RAMS!!


          • #6
            Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

            Avenger...buddy...are you serious? The "media" is responsible for the Vick fiasco? Come on. Did the media look for the next black quarterback darling they could hold up against all the successfully white quarterbacks? Yes. Did they overlook his obvious shortcomings by sensationalizing his escapes and runs? Yes. But to try and establish a nexus to a man that fought dogs, and if they didn't perform, drowned and hanged them providing the media fodder to create a Caesar-like rise and fall storyline believing I'm Superman. Hmmmmmmm....maybe you have a point after all!


            • #7
              Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

              avenger, i agree with the general premise of your post, but more importantly, i am continually impressed with your neverending ability to pull literary references out of your buttocks. Quoting mark twain in the context of the michael vick situation is truly one for the ages.

              ramming speed to all

              general counsel


              • #8
                Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

                Yes, they're always looking for an angle that sells, but unfortunately we the people are in part responsible. After all, the ratings come from what people choose to watch. When they hype the next young player, we check it out. When he struggles and the hype continues, even his detractors still watch and read the articles so we can make our claims about how overrated he is. When he falls, whether he liked him in the first place or not, we still read about him and watch the news as it breaks. To an extent, the media is just a reflection of our society's desires.


                • #9
                  Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

                  Not necessarily.

                  As fans, we crave football news, so we turn to the providers of that commodity. If some were talking Xs and Os, while others were focusing on Vick, we could choose what we want. Unfortunately, every media source has been shoving the Vick story down our throats, so there's not much of a choice other than cold turkey (which, by the way, has been my choice for the most part and will continue to be until the regular season starts).


                  • #10
                    Re: As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.

                    Mike Vick had everything on a Silver platter - and he messed it up himself.

                    Take Kordell Stewart - he was immediately a Media Darling. The media absolutely loved him, although he never became a top-flight QB, the Media didn't bring him down!

                    Kordell Stewart didn't get arrested and wasn't investigated by the Media - Off Coordinators just gave up on him and went into retirement.

                    Did the Media give Vick a $130 Million dollar contract?

                    It's called Personal Responsibility.


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                      In this country alone, we kill over ten billion land animals annually for food. The animals we eat—even those supposedly raised “humanely”—suffer as much as the dogs that are used in dog fighting. There is no “need” for us to eat meat, dairy, or eggs. Indeed, these foods are increasingly linked to various human diseases and animal agriculture is an environmental disaster for the planet. We impose pain, suffering, and death on these billions of sentient nonhumans because we enjoy eating their flesh and the products that we make from them.

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                      Appearing at a news conference to ask directions on how to tie his shoes and get home he described himself as an unwitting victim of relatives living on his property in Smithfield, VA who realize how bereft of basic intelligence he is.

                      "I'm never at the house as I can't find it on a map. I left the house with my family members and my cousin who said they were running a business providing day care to attack dogs. It's unfortunate I am not smarter," Vick said. "Even if I'm there, I don't know what's going on. Mixing metaphors he added "When it all boils down to brass tacks, two in the hand is a penny saved"

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                    • K.G
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                      Should I even mention the idea? What does everybody think? Whenever he can play we should def go after him if we got the money.
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                    • peramoure
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                      Quite honestly, I really am perplexed about the backlash with Michael Vick around the country. I live in Texas and I hear folks "That mother effin dog killer better not ever become a 'Boy!" and now I see it on the Rams forum.


                      He served his time! He is a reformed felon! Do you believe in second chances? First and foremost, the guy served a long sentence, forfeited tens of millions of dollars and is genuinely remorseful per Tony Dungy, numerous pastors, and even Arthur Blank. I have never seen a backlash like this in the NFL, not even with LEONARD LITTLE killing a human being! If you can't stand Vick then I want to see a petition to remove Little from the Rams. I believe in second chances.

                      Moreso - and I am a little over the top and am 99% logic and 1% emotion in the way I think.. do you eat meat? I mean seriously, do you realize how inhumane our system for killing cattle, chicken, pigs, etc is? It is ludicrous to think that because we have a furry, cute dog fighting each other that this is somehow different then getting a cow, feeding it 100% corn (and giving it antibiotics so it doesn't die from infection from not eating anything else) and then killing it (and I'm not getting into details of how it is done) is somehow DRASTICALLY different than the way we kill animals we eat. And it isn't. They are slightly different but don't try to justify that the way we raise animals is ok.

                      I eat meat, and a lot of it, but I think there is a emotional knee jerk to the fact that he fought dogs whereas it is imbedded in our brains that meat just comes from the grocery store with no repercussions.

                      So Mike Vick served his freakin' time and gave away his life. Bring him back, and if he happens to be a Ram (and I doubt it) I'll applaud it.
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