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    Should I even mention the idea? What does everybody think? Whenever he can play we should def go after him if we got the money.

  • #2
    Re: Michael Vick

    There are a few other threads about this already. The answer is no.


    • #3
      Re: Michael Vick

      HELL NO, not even to have him for free would I want him within 1000 light years of the Rams, Reasons:

      1. PITA and anyother animal rights group will likely setup camp outside Rams HQ
      2. How many Rams players would want to play with Vick on the same filed? Most would but a handful would not.
      3. Giving all the opportunities for distractions would you want to see any of it?
      4. Playing Pro-football is and honor and a privilage. ESPN radio is just full with commentaries about how he, like any other have a right to make a living--true, but let it be somewhere else. Last I looked he did go to college; hope he put is educational opportunity to better use then he did his professional football career.

      IF the Rams go out and get themselves a VICK, there is a Tank, Pac-Man, and R. Williams out there--if you get one bad apple--why not get the whole lot of them.


      • #4
        Re: Michael Vick

        I like pita with my kabobs.

        I am sure Vick would be distracting and some players would like him and some players would not like him. You would have to ask the players what they think of him to get a clear answer of how they feel.

        Adding Vick would bring more media attention to the Rams that is for sure.


        • #5
          Re: Michael Vick

          Vick? again..:|


          • #6
            Re: Michael Vick

            I was watching Bernie Mac in Mr 3000 yesterday. It is a baseball movie where they bring back on old player and he brings in the crowds. He is old and ornery. The owner of the team decides to keep him in whether he does good or bad, just because he is bringing in the fans.

            Vick could do that for the Rams. I am not sure how many Vick supporters there are out there, but he could expand the fan base for a bit. Yes it would be a distraction and yes players and fans could be upset over it, but it would generate attention.

            I would not be terribly upset if they brought Vick in. I think people deserve second chances in life. I think Vick has been punished, he has shown remorse, and perhaps pit bulls and fighting dogs are better off for it now.


            • #7
              Re: Michael Vick

              So are there any reports out there to show if he can play anymore? What positions he would consider playing? Is he actually cleared by the league to play?

              I think it is an interesting concept. He can run, he can throw, can he catch too? The offense could use some help and special teams could too.

              Maybe this is too far out a concept for most fans....are you guys completely against it?


              • #8
                Re: Michael Vick

                Originally posted by UtterBlitz View Post
                So are there any reports out there to show if he can play anymore? What positions he would consider playing? Is he actually cleared by the league to play?

                I think it is an interesting concept. He can run, he can throw, can he catch too? The offense could use some help and special teams could too.

                Maybe this is too far out a concept for most fans....are you guys completely against it?

                MICHEAL VICK..... should die of std's and go away


                • #9
                  Re: Michael Vick

                  I dont understand how you guys are completely against it. I am sure his football skills arent as honed but you know in jail all he did was workout. If the players are allright with it we should go after him.


                  • #10
                    Re: Michael Vick

                    I don't care if Vick comes back with all the skills of T. Brady, J. Montana and S. Young all in one. I don't want sick VICK anywhere close to the Rams.

                    There are somethings more important then winning games--self respect being one of them. I would hang my head in shame to admit of being a Ram fan with Vick on the squad.

                    As I mentioned earlier, playing professional football is a privilage and honor, not a right. He can earn a living doing something else.

                    Fact is, what message would the NFL be saying if Vick returns? Its ok to do horrible things, as long as you have talent, you are welcome back and are "forgiven". Great message for the youth of this country.


                    • #11
                      Re: Michael Vick

                      Originally posted by Ram Dragoon View Post
                      Fact is, what message would the NFL be saying if Vick returns? Its ok to do horrible things, as long as you have talent, you are welcome back and are "forgiven". Great message for the youth of this country.
                      At the risk of negative rep, I'll reiterate a point that I've made once or twice as well as a few other level headed members of the board, Leonard Little did kill a woman and he's taking his snaps on the field. With this very football team no less! Are you ok with placing the value of the life of dogs over human beings? Because it sort of seems that way as no one cries to have him removed and keep a distance from the team.
                      This nauseating sentiment of Vick is a horrible human being is sometimes too much to handle. Especially when there are players with backgrounds just as sketchy in the NFL currently.


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                      • Tony Soprano
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                        "Several people in the NFL told me not to rule out St. Louis as a possible destination for Vick. The Rams might have some ownership issues to deal with before actually signing him, but they have genuine interest. They’ve been doing their due diligence on Vick, and if the Commissioner does reinstate him, look for them to actively pursue him. It makes sense — a new coach with an older quarterback who hasn’t played well. Playing in a dome on carpet would highlight Vick’s speed and athleticism. "

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                      • UtterBlitz
                        A Note about Michael Vick
                        by UtterBlitz
                        This author does a good job with articulating some of the animal rights issues that I see.

                        A Note About Michael Vick
                        Posted by Gary L. Francione in Blog

                        There has been an enormous amount of coverage of the alleged dog fighting operation sponsored by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick. Vick and three other men were indicted on federal felony charges claiming that Vick had sponsored illegal dog fighting, gambled on dog fights and permitted acts of cruelty against animals on his property. The talk shows are filled with talking heads from the “humane community” condemning dog fighting and calling for Vick to be punished if he is, indeed, guilty. Nike and Reebok have suspended products endorsed by Vick.

                        Please let me be very clear: I think that dog fighting is a terrible thing.

                        But I must say that the Vick case is rather dramatically demonstrating what I call our “moral schizophrenia” about animals. That is, if one thing is clear, it is that we do not think clearly about our moral obligations to animals.

                        In this country alone, we kill over ten billion land animals annually for food. The animals we eat—even those supposedly raised “humanely”—suffer as much as the dogs that are used in dog fighting. There is no “need” for us to eat meat, dairy, or eggs. Indeed, these foods are increasingly linked to various human diseases and animal agriculture is an environmental disaster for the planet. We impose pain, suffering, and death on these billions of sentient nonhumans because we enjoy eating their flesh and the products that we make from them.

                        There is something positively bizarre about condemning Michael Vick for using dogs in a hideous form of entertainment when 99% of us also use animals that are every bit as sentient as dogs in another hideous form of entertainment that is no more justifiable than fighting dogs: eating animals and animal products.

                        There is something positively bizarre that many “animal lovers” sit around eating meat that has the Certified Humane Raised and Handled label endorsed by The Humane Society of the United States while HSUS tells us what a bad guy Michael Vick is.

                        HSUS and PETA are demanding that Vick be suspended from the NFL. As far as I know, neither organization demanded that Michael Jordan be suspended from the NBA because he promoted Ball Park Franks.

                        There is something bizarre about Reebok and Nike, which use leather in their shoes, suspending products endorsed by Vick. They’re not going to allow a guy who allegedly tortures dogs to endorse products that contain tortured cows.

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                      • AvengerRam_old
                        As Vick falls, the media begins cycle of shame anew.
                        by AvengerRam_old
                        Have I mentioned how much I hate the media?

                        Here's the latest. On radio talk shows... on the internet... in the newspapers... the latest trend with respect to the Michael Vick fiasco is to ask "why are we giving this so much attention?" or "aren't we overreacting?" or (my favorite) "why don't we pay this much attention to crimes against humans?"

                        Let's be perfectly clear here. The media is responsible for this whole thing. The cycle goes like this:

                        1. Build up a young exciting player by over-hyping him as "the next ______" even before he plays a down in the league.

                        2. Continue to build him up even as his actual peformance shows serious limitations, to the point where endorsement deals bring him to near iconic status.

                        3. Break the big story of his fall from grace, then splash it on the front page for weeks.

                        4. When people start getting bored, take the other side and accuse the public of making too much of the story.

                        5. Make Michael Vick the victim.

                        6. Hope he comes back so you can really sell a "from the ashes" story.

                        We've seen it before. Mike Tyson went through the whole cycle. The media is itching for guys like A-Rod to fall. Even outside the sports world, we see the same pattern with actors and musicians.

                        The reality is that Vick is almost certainly guilty of crimes that deserve punishment. Others have done worse things, but that does not excuse Vick or reduce the necessity to deal with his actions harshly. But all that said, if Vick were merely an average NFL QB (let's say Chad Pennington or Aaron Brooks or Jeff Garcia) who wasn't built up like Vick was, it wouldn't be such a big story.

                        Mark Twain said it best. "If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed."
                        -08-18-2007, 09:37 AM
                      • peramoure
                        Vick to Rams Backlash
                        by peramoure
                        Quite honestly, I really am perplexed about the backlash with Michael Vick around the country. I live in Texas and I hear folks "That mother effin dog killer better not ever become a 'Boy!" and now I see it on the Rams forum.


                        He served his time! He is a reformed felon! Do you believe in second chances? First and foremost, the guy served a long sentence, forfeited tens of millions of dollars and is genuinely remorseful per Tony Dungy, numerous pastors, and even Arthur Blank. I have never seen a backlash like this in the NFL, not even with LEONARD LITTLE killing a human being! If you can't stand Vick then I want to see a petition to remove Little from the Rams. I believe in second chances.

                        Moreso - and I am a little over the top and am 99% logic and 1% emotion in the way I think.. do you eat meat? I mean seriously, do you realize how inhumane our system for killing cattle, chicken, pigs, etc is? It is ludicrous to think that because we have a furry, cute dog fighting each other that this is somehow different then getting a cow, feeding it 100% corn (and giving it antibiotics so it doesn't die from infection from not eating anything else) and then killing it (and I'm not getting into details of how it is done) is somehow DRASTICALLY different than the way we kill animals we eat. And it isn't. They are slightly different but don't try to justify that the way we raise animals is ok.

                        I eat meat, and a lot of it, but I think there is a emotional knee jerk to the fact that he fought dogs whereas it is imbedded in our brains that meat just comes from the grocery store with no repercussions.

                        So Mike Vick served his freakin' time and gave away his life. Bring him back, and if he happens to be a Ram (and I doubt it) I'll applaud it.
                        -06-02-2009, 12:30 PM
                      • MacCentury
                        Michael Vick was on MTV's Cribs!!
                        by MacCentury
                        These youtube kids burried the guy. I sude to feel like he should be left alone then I heard he had a reality show coming out. So eff him; he's trying to capitalize!!
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