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    Best RB ever??!!.....Walter Payton....Any questions??

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    The best ever in my opinion was Walter Payton.

    Someone who was not the best but will always be up there with Dickerson and Faulk is Wendell Tyler.

    Not the same talent level but definitely gave me some fond memories. Didn't he end his career with the Whiners though? Still you have to give props to a guy who helped us to the first Super Bowl.

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  • Aries51
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    Oh yeah.I remember.Jackson basically ended Bozos career.Bo exposed Brian as the steroid using wannabe that he was,and this is coming from an OU fan.Anyway,I would have to say Payton was the best I have ever seen.If Dickerson had remained a Ram,I think he would have been the best ever

    GO RAMS! STAY FOCUSED! WIN!

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  • txramsfan
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    Bo?

    If Bo Jackson had even a 1/4 step on a defender, GONE. He quite possibly had the most talent of anyone I have ever seen. Would his injury today sit him down permanently or could modern medicine fix him?

    I just think it was a shame. I can still remember the Raiders game at home against Oakland when he took off down the sidelines in front of the Seahawk bench. They were just in awe.

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  • Aries51
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    Bettis is in that same mold.Sometimes I really miss Jerome.
    If Faulk retires,maybe we could get him back.Reaching a bit here.

    GO RAMS! STAY FOCUSED! WIN!

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  • RamDez
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    Oh Man, I used to love watching Riggins play along with his Hogs.

    In the early days here in the UK, Chanel 4 used to show all the Skins games.

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    Re: A diesel run...

    Originally posted by Jorge Valdivia
    Not necessarily as "the best" of course, but how about John Riggins / Redskins? Shouldn't he be among the group of the great ones?
    :confused:
    Riggins was my kind of RB, but he was the product of a system, his seasons with the Jets were good but not great .... in Washington he came into a situation not unlike Emmitt in Dallas, any better than average RB could be successful, with that OL and good playcalling.

    Great tackle-breaker ..... mentioned with the best in his era ( maybe over a 10 year period.) but probably not with the all-time greats.

    I did really love him though. He and Chuck Foreman are in that same mold. Foreman was awesome too .....................

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  • RealRam
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    A diesel run...

    Not necessarily as "the best" of course, but how about John Riggins / Redskins? Shouldn't he be among the group of the great ones?
    :confused:

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  • RamWraith
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    what about

    What about Thurman Thomas??

    He was the first multie purpose back in the league. You always to had repect him for his receiving abilities as well as his running.

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    I'll take a stab ....

    Walter Payton - had EVERY tool in the book,the MJ of RB's.Never has there been a guy who go full speed stop in one step then be full speed again. Barry Sanders was the only one close ...FAR ahead of the pack followed closely by a few ...

    Earl Campbell - too bad he averaged a million hits a game. Best power RB EVER. Had speed to. Only power back I've ever seen that could beat you without ANY blocking or a passing game ...truly incredible. Was Barry Sanders like in his humble handing the ball to the ref's style. CLASS ACT.

    Gale Sayers - What a shame .... may have been the best ever if not for the knee injuries ( also see Billy Simms - here )

    Jim Brown - Quit on top ....WAY on top .......

    Eric Dickerson - weird straight up running style worked for him and him alone .... gets other backs killed - truly powerful as well as FAST ...

    Barry Sanders - RESPECTFUL. Did his job. Was the flashiest shiftiest guy ever, and yet NEVER showboated,taunted etc... TRUE CLASS ACT

    dumba$$ OJ Simpson - great vision and acceleration to the point of attack.

    and freaking Roger Craig - hammering leg drive great between the tackles and on the perimiter, good vision, excellent reciever, also quit on top with lots left to give ............WAY UNDERRATED in the annals of history ....

    Marshall Faulk - time will tell but I think he will be treated like Emmitt to an extent . Played on the best team , yada yada ... the early years and his attitude in Indy hurt his stock for me. He grew up, which is great. Most complete runner today.

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  • RealRam
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    Yes, Barry Sanders @ Lions probably tops them all. Followed by...

    Gale Sayers? / Bears
    Erick Dickerson? / as a RAM
    Marshall Faulk? / as a RAM

    I agree, DaddoRam about the great Lion. I also think Emmitt Smith is a fine, strong and super successful RB. I never have liked the Boys from cowland but have no problem recognizing this guy's abilities and achivements --even while disregarding the statistics.
    As posted in my first reply to this thread, there have been many RBs throught so many years in the NFL ...it's hard to go through a clear screening process. Larry Czonka, for instance, was a big, bull-runner type, very much like Earl Campbell, just running over defenders or knocking their socks off with a punishing style. Jim Taylor was in that category as well although not as big (hey, none of the players in Taylor's era were that big -period).

    And you're also right about the importance of the mental aspect /approach to the game as a RB. Emsmith is an extremely smart player, perhaps a-l-m-o-s-t as smart as Marshall Faulk. Almost. ;) ...not to mention his durability! I hope Marshall will still be helping the Rams win SBowls three, four years from now. :cool:

    It is a deep challenge to succeed in the NFL. I believe it is more demanding and trying than any other sport in the USA; it takes a lot more character and stamina to play well and long in pro football regardless of the position.

    Running backs, however, great RBs that is, have it particularly tough. They are not constantly -and I mean on every single play- being tortured as linemen are, true, but they're not as big. No, great running backs must block against or into linemen, they have to take the handoff or catch a pass only to run with it through or around thick brick walls, wrestle with the persistent violence of LBs if only to gain --or loose-- a couple of yards or three, AND outspeed DBs. Got serious pain? No problem, you'll play with pain just like the rest of team.

    It IS hard to choose the 'best RB ever.' Of the players that I remember and know a little of (please keep in mind that my "NFL glory days" were those of the mid-late 60's, early 70's then mid-late 80's and late 90's to present) ...in addition to the ones already mentioned by you and me and the others, these stand out in my mind as very good, excellent, and remarkably tough [in no particular order and with no corresponding quality label]. Please bear w/me,

    Les Josephson / RAMS
    Dick Bass / RAMS
    Tommy Mason / RAMS
    Larry Smith / RAMS
    Willie Ellison / RAMS
    Greg Bell / RAMS
    Jerome Bettis /RAMS
    Leroy Kelly /Browns
    Dan Reeves /Cowboys
    Paul Hornung /Packers
    Brian Piccolo /Bears
    Eddie George /Titans
    Marcus Allen /Raiders
    Bo Jackson /Raiders
    Rockie Bleier /Steelers
    Napoleon Kaufman /Raiders
    Ken Willard /Whiners
    Emerson Boozer /Jets
    Walt Garrison /Cowboys
    Mike Alstott /Bucs
    Tom Matte /Colts
    Bill Brown /Vikings
    Terrell Davis /Broncos
    Roy Perkins /Cowboys

    All these men are extremely professional about their respective athleticism and the responsibilities towards the team they represent. Results have obviously varied :p . But their example of courage and work are a real thrill; they are outstanding in their own merit even if only for the value of entertainment.

    I appreciate your patience. It's just that I really enjoy this bit of 'running back history' --pun intended. For it is players like these that are among the folks who make this worldly life a little more "exciting."

    Come on James!, Justin!, Marshall!, Robert!, Trung! GO RAMS!!!
    Last edited by RealRam; -10-10-2001, 10:56 PM.

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  • Daspeerman
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    Now i know im gonna hear some S*%T over this one .... but id put Earl Cambell on top of my list.... that man just plain PUNISHED ANYONE that attepted to take him down .... and got up ... and did it again ....and again ..... Tex was noting that he seemed a little small .... that may be now .... but in his day ..... his thighs were humungus.... ... i also loved to see Larry Czonka ... ( im a big punishing running back kinda guy)... remember that other little guy ... Chritian Akoyia(sp?).. from KC? even Jim Brown was huge for the time period .... nowadays .... the premier type running back is the great Marsh Faulk ....( Bye the way .... what is he? a RB or WR ?).... :confused:

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    Czonka ahead of Emmitt Smith? I don't think so!
    I know Rams fans are supposed to hate the Cowboys but the guy deserves a lot more credit that he gets...and before I hear "he's behind a great offensive line" may I remind you that Dickerson and Faulk were/are. as well? Emmitt Smith's a tough runner with great moves and a great mind for the game, definately one of the top RBs of all time...but not the best...I still give that designation to Barry Sanders.

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  • txramsfan
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    Earl punished folks

    I saw him about 6 months ago. He owned a bar and restaurant here in Austin on 6th St. It was cool, had his Heisman Trophy in there as soon as you walked in, and all kinds of sports memoribilia on the wall. Had his Pro Football Hall of Fame jacket on the wall. All kinds of great college stuff. However, he looked small. And didn't walk very well, but is a super super super nice gentleman. The restaurant isn't there now, and that is a shame. It was great sitting down and sitting next to Earl Campbell at his restaurant surrounded by some of the most intriging sports memoriablia anywhere, kicking back with a beer and bar b q and shooting the breeze. (For those of you that don't know about Austin, this really isn't shocking to bump into celebrities, Austin is a very cool spot.) Remember that time he just ran over that guy in the end zone?

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  • RealRam
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    Not good enough...

    I know that TXRamsFan, I know. Still, I'd rather choose Earl Campbell - Oilers, I think he was more of a pure runner -- again, statistics notwithstanding. :p

    Hey, how about [???] ..."doh," I lost the thought /name here.

    We've got THE MARSHALL on our side. GO RAMS!!!

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