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  • Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

    Martz seems to be appreciated for his analyst work at the NFL Network. A recent tweet from Rich Eisen's twitter account said:

    "Doing the show with Rod Woodson and Mike Martz. Every time Martz opens his mouth, I feel like I've learned five new things about football."

    Just throwing that out there in case anyone finds that interesting.

  • #2
    Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

    I don't know what to say about Martz. I liked the fact that we won a lot, but that was with far superior talent on the squad.

    He accomplished absolutely nothing in San Fran and Detroit.

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    • #3
      Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

      there`s no doubt about it Martz knows what he`s talking about when it comes to the playbook and i enjoy watching him...im sure Linehan aswell would impress people tho when it comes to that kind of stuff..just a whole lot more needed when it comes to coaching.

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      • #4
        Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

        Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
        He accomplished absolutely nothing in San Fran and Detroit.
        You are right, but . . . . who accomplished anything with these two teams in a long time?

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        • #5
          Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

          Originally posted by NY RAMFAN View Post
          You are right, but . . . . who accomplished anything with these two teams in a long time?
          Mike Singletary comes to mind.

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          • #6
            Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

            Actually he made inept offense good in Detroit and San Fran. He made Shaun Hill and Marc Bulger for that matter.

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            • #7
              Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

              The Rams have gotten significantly worse since Martz left.
              The Lions went 0-16 after Martz left but did relatively well offensively with Kitna.
              The 9ers got better.

              You can blame Martz for the drafts but he didn't have a football oriented GM who was independent, he didn't have a director of pro-personnel to get free agents and he didn't have someone to scout college athletes for the draft. During his time their scouting staff was a paid subscription service.

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              • #8
                Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                I like Martz, but the new show actually puts me to sleep...they need to do something to spice it up.
                "The disappointment of losing is huge!"

                Jack Youngblood

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                • #9
                  Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                  There is no doubt that Martz is a very creative OC, but this team has nowhere near the talent that the Rams of old did. I think it would be a dissapointment is he were to come back here again, not to mention that drama that comes with him being a part of the staff.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                    It's easy to say bring back the Mad Scientist when your team has been shutout 2 of 4 games.
                    sigpic :ram::helmet:

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                    • #11
                      Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                      Originally posted by laram0 View Post
                      It's easy to say bring back the Mad Scientist when your team has been shutout 2 of 4 games.
                      Good point.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                        i dont think the OP`s intention was to start a discussion on if he should come back or not..just that he knows his stuff,he knows what he`s talking about as a pundit..

                        tho i may be wrong on that..

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                          Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                          Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
                          I don't know what to say about Martz. I liked the fact that we won a lot, but that was with far superior talent on the squad.

                          He accomplished absolutely nothing in San Fran and Detroit.
                          With Martz in Detroit, their '07 started 7-2, if I'm not mistaken, and they did what last year?

                          Point is, that's not absolutely nothing.
                          sigpicThis is for Randy! GO BRM!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                            Originally posted by laram0 View Post
                            It's easy to say bring back the Mad Scientist when your team has been shutout 2 of 4 games.
                            With that in mind, we couldn't really get that much worse, and Bulger already knows how Martz operates, so why not? You know what they say about hitting rock bottom.....the only way you can go is up. If Shurmur was demoted back to being a QBs coach, as he was in Philly, when Garcia and Feeley were looking studly in McNabb's absence, and Martz back as OC, you never know...we could start to go up. And, then again, I could be wrong.
                            sigpicThis is for Randy! GO BRM!

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                              Re: Rich Eisen on Mike Martz

                              Originally posted by MOM View Post
                              With that in mind, we couldn't really get that much worse, and Bulger already knows how Martz operates, so why not? You know what they say about hitting rock bottom.....the only way you can go is up. If Shurmur was demoted back to being a QBs coach, as he was in Philly, when Garcia and Feeley were looking studly in McNabb's absence, and Martz back as OC, you never know...we could start to go up. And, then again, I could be wrong.
                              I like the way you think , but I don't see it ever happening.

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                              • Nick
                                Martz on the Mike: Weds, 11/17
                                by Nick
                                Head Coach Mike Martz
                                Wednesday, November 17, 2004

                                (Opening statement)
                                “The Bills, obviously at home, have played very well. Defensively, they are one of the top teams in the league. The defensive line, particularly the two tackles, are very physical guys that are very disruptive. Of course we know what London (Fletcher) is. With his range he is very active and very involved in both the passing game and run game. Offensively, both backs I think are outstanding. (Willis) McGahee has really taken off and done a great job. Any game on the road like this is very difficult in the NFL as you know. As our players learned down in Miami, you have to bring your best every week. I think this is a better football team then Miami obviously, and we know that we are in for a dog fight when we get up there. We will prepare as such.”

                                (On the players reacting to the tougher practices)
                                “I don’t know if it was any tougher, we tackled. We went back to basics. I think we’re all upset with ourselves as well as the players in terms of the attitude. Sometimes you let things slip and as I said last week, sometimes what you see is what you coach. So we had to go back to basics, and we will again do that today. We’ve got to block and tackle better we just do, that’s the basis of this game. If you don’t enjoy those things you’re not going to play well. They enjoy it, they had a good time out there on Wednesday. Practice was a lot of fun, they got into it pretty good, and I’m sure they will do it again today. We got better. We’re not where we need to be but we’re making progress and that’s all you can ask. We have a lot of young players on defense who have to learn how to stay at a high level and get off of that roller coaster, and this is probably the best way that you can avoid that.”

                                (On keeping up his attitude with his team)
                                “I’ve been with some of these guys for a long time, and I think they understand my frustrations too. Not just with them, but with myself and not realizing what was going on sometimes. I think it really comes down to, more than anything else, is everybody being on the same page to make it right. They know that we are always going to try and do the right thing by them. None of this was ever intended to or meant as any type of punishment. If you get mad at football teams and start taking it out on them, then you’re going to lose your team. You need to get out of coaching and get an attitude readjustment. It was never about that, It’s about going back to basics, getting your feet on the ground, getting physical again, and enjoying that part of the game.”

                                (On missing LB London Fletcher)
                                ‘There’s no question that we miss London. He was such a good leader on this team and so productive. You go back and look at the years that he was here, he is hard to replace. Guys that didn’t practice at a certain level, he was right there in their face. He demanded it out...
                                -11-18-2004, 12:28 PM
                              • BigGameMN
                                Fire Martz -- or stay out of his way
                                by BigGameMN
                                Terrific article on Martz and the turmoil in Detroit



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                              • woodyramfan1
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                                by woodyramfan1
                                I would like comments on whether Mad Mike should be fired or not.:clanram:
                                -10-02-2005, 06:55 PM
                              • Nick
                                Martz bashers now have proof: He doesn't know the score
                                by Nick
                                Martz bashers now have proof: He doesn't know the score
                                BY JEFF GORDON
                                Post-Dispatch Online Sports Columnist
                                09/03/2004

                                I believe we all like a little self-deprecating humor in our coaches. In a field of know-it-alls and Inventors of the Sport, the ability to mock oneself is an endearing quality.

                                We can only take so much of the Bill Walshs and Marty Schottenheimers of the world.

                                However, I'd like to use this corner of cyberspace to give Rams coach Mike Martz a little advice.

                                Never, never, NEVER come clean during a post-game news conference. Never admit to a lapse in your cognitive powers.

                                Never admit you didn't know what the score was in the last minute of a game.


                                You know how some citizens of Rams Nation are. They doubt Martz as a head coach and disparage his game management skills. They bristle every time he burns his timeouts, as he did in the second half of the Raiders game.

                                They hang on his every word, waiting for him to make an incriminating statement or use an improper tone of voice. There are folks who walk around town muttering one of Martz's favorite lines, "Shoot, we'll fix that," under their breaths.

                                As veteran talk show host Howard Balzer noted on 1380 ESPN Friday morning, Martz should NOT have made a confession after Thursday night's 28-24 loss at Oakland.

                                He admitted ordering Jeff Smoker to throw a sideline pass with nine seconds left, even though the Rams needed to get in the end zone.

                                "I can't believe I was yelling for a field goal," Martz told reporters. "That was the dumbest thing I've ever done as a football coach."

                                Oh, boy. You don't want to get Rams fans going down that road.

                                That was tantamount to throwing out a three-hour radio call-in topic. That was like throwing fresh hamburger into the shark tank. Fans will be eager to respond to that assertion.

                                "Smoker was yelling at me, 'Hey coach, we're down by four!'" Martz continued. "Can you imagine Jeff Smoker telling me what the score was?"

                                Everybody at once: YES!


                                Now I'm a pretty big Mike Martz fan. He inherited outstanding talent from Dick Vermeil, but he also had to rebuild an atrocious defense.

                                He has accomplished plenty on his own, including winning an NFC Championship and reaching postseason play three times.

                                The NFL is a tough place to coach, as Steve Spurrier would tell you. Rams fans tend not to give Mad Mike all the credit he deserves.

                                But Martz DOES do some goofy things. He seems to become immersed in his scripted play chart, to the point of becoming impervious to all the drama swirling around him.

                                When asked to comment on such-and-such an incident on the sidelines, Martz often has no idea what reporters...
                                -09-03-2004, 04:19 PM
                              • HornsCellPhone
                                What is the overall consensus on Mike Martz?
                                by HornsCellPhone
                                Do you Rams fans still think of him as a good HC or has he lost it?

                                I ask because I've got a funny feeling Martz will be the Saints next HC and I'd like to know what you guys think of him.

                                Was Martz fired because it was just a needed change for both parties?
                                -01-15-2006, 11:33 AM
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