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    By Associated Press
    Published October 11, 2004

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    TAMPA - Chris Simms' first NFL start lasted 19 plays, and it may be a while before he plays again for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Although the second-year quarterback is day to day with a left shoulder sprain, coach Jon Gruden said Brian Griese, who came off the bench to pace Sunday's 20-17 win over New Orleans, will start next Monday night at St. Louis.

    "There will be no surgery. We're going to call it a sprain. He's going to be sore for a period of days," Gruden said, adding Simms will be listed as doubtful.

    Asked if he expects Simms to practice this week, Gruden was not optimistic.

    "It depends on how quick the soreness subsides. I would say that that's questionable at best," the coach said. "Hopefully as the week unfolds, he'll get some strength and mobility back."

    The son of former New York Giants star Phil Simms was 5-of-8 for 68 yards and produced a 3-0 lead before he was hurt when Saints rookie Will Smith sacked him in late in the first quarter, causing a fumble.

    X-rays taken Sunday showed no structural damage, and a MRI exam performed Monday was negative, too.

    Griese, also the son of a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, replaced Simms and completed 16 of 19 passes for 194 yards and one touchdown.

    Gruden shrugged off a question about whether Griese earned the starting job, which was held by Brad Johnson through an 0-4 start, or if Simms would return to the lineup when he's healthy.

    "We're just going to deal with the reality of business. Chris is hurt," Gruden said. "If Chris had stayed healthy and played like he was playing, he would continue to be our starter. He's not healthy. He's hurt. Brian Griese did a heck of a job. He's starting."

    Meanwhile, Gruden said the team will not trade Johnson, who has lost 13 of 20 starts since leading the Bucs to a Super Bowl victory in January 2003.

    "I'm not going to answer all the rumor mill," Gruden said. "There's a lot of inaccuracies out there. Brad Johnson is a big part of this football team and will continue to be that."

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    Re: [Bucs] Griese will start vs. Rams

    I hope the Rams don't take this as an easy win since Griese is starting, because in 2000, Griese was 19/29 for 307 yards and three total touchdowns against the Rams D.

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      Re: [Bucs] Griese will start vs. Rams

      I agree. We "should" be able to handle T.B. but must assume that like us, they are playing with some confidence and are on the up-swing. In addition to Griese's history against the Rams, their defense did a good job of shutting Seattle's offense down. I'm certainly not looking past the Bucs and I'm sure Martz isn't either, although I have that luxury as a fan (sorry, couldn't resist, something I learned from a Seattle supporter, see below). LOL

      I'm sure that the Seahawks players and coaches are taking the Rams VERY seriously. As a fan, I have the luxury of not having to though.

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        Re: [Bucs] Griese will start vs. Rams

        The Bucs have always played us tough, ESPECIALLY on Monday night.

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        • DJRamFan
          [Bucs] Buccaneers' Simms Doubtful for Next Game
          by DJRamFan
          Oct 11, 1:53 PM EDT

          Buccaneers' Simms Doubtful for Next Game

          By FRED GOODALL
          AP Sports Writer

          TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Chris Simms' first NFL start lasted 19 plays, and it may be a while before he plays again for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

          Although the second-year quarterback is day to day with a left shoulder sprain, coach Jon Gruden said Brian Griese, who came off the bench to pace Sunday's 20-17 win over New Orleans, will start next Monday night at St. Louis.

          "There will be no surgery. We're going to call it a sprain. He's going to be sore for a period of days," Gruden said, adding Simms will be listed as doubtful.

          Asked if he expects Simms to practice this week, Gruden was not optimistic.

          "It depends on how quick the soreness subsides. I would say that that's questionable at best," the coach said. "Hopefully as the week unfolds, he'll get some strength and mobility back."

          The son of former New York Giants star Phil Simms was 5-of-8 for 68 yards and produced a 3-0 lead before he was hurt when Saints rookie Will Smith sacked him in late in the first quarter, causing a fumble.

          X-rays taken Sunday showed no structural damage, and a MRI exam performed Monday was negative, too.

          Griese, also the son of a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, replaced Simms and completed 16 of 19 passes for 194 yards and one touchdown.

          Gruden shrugged off a question about whether Griese earned the starting job, which was held by Brad Johnson through an 0-4 start, or if Simms would return to the lineup when he's healthy.

          "We're just going to deal with the reality of business. Chris is hurt," Gruden said. "If Chris had stayed healthy and played like he was playing, he would continue to be our starter. He's not healthy. He's hurt. Brian Griese did a heck of a job. He's starting."

          Meanwhile, Gruden said the team will not trade Johnson, who has lost 13 of 20 starts since leading the Bucs to a Super Bowl victory in January 2003.

          "I'm not going to answer all the rumor mill," Gruden said. "There's a lot of inaccuracies out there. Brad Johnson is a big part of this football team and will continue to be that."
          -10-11-2004, 01:13 PM
        • DJRamFan
          [Bucs] Griese Is The Word At QB
          by DJRamFan
          By KATHERINE SMITH [email protected]
          Published: Oct 12, 2004






          TAMPA - Brian Griese walked into the Bucs' meeting room Monday and eased himself into a chair.
          The seventh-year quarterback was a little more sore than in past weeks after significant playing time in the Bucs' 20-17 victory against New Orleans on Sunday. Griese plans on being just as sore next week following the Monday night game at St. Louis, where he will get his first start as a Buccaneer.

          Griese came in at New Orleans after Chris Simms, making his first NFL start, went down in the Bucs' second offensive series with a sprained left shoulder. An MRI revealed no extensive damage that would require surgery, Coach Jon Gruden said Monday, and Simms is listed as doubtful for the Rams game.

          Griese, the former Denver and Miami quarterback who signed with the Bucs in March, wouldn't speculate if the starting job is now his to lose.

          ``I have no idea,'' Griese said. ``I just found out [Monday] morning that I was going to play this week, so I'm happy about that. I'm happy about the opportunity to go out on Monday night. What a great stage, so I'm just excited about that.``

          Gruden was noncommittal on how long Griese would remain the starter.

          ``We're just going to deal with the reality of business. Chris is hurt,`` Gruden said. ``If Chris had stayed healthy and played like he was playing, he would continue to be our starter. He's not healthy. He's hurt. Brian Griese did a heck of a job. He's starting.``

          Griese completed 16 of 19 passes Sunday for 194 yards, finishing with a passer rating of 126.8. He led scoring drives of 41 and 71 yards, the longer drive capped off with his 45- yard touchdown pass to tight end Ken Dilger.

          But the most impressive drive may have been the game's last, during which the Bucs converted two key third downs to run out the clock.

          ``I can't really say that in my years of coaching, that I have seen a guy come in, off the bench, and play that well in a situation where we really needed him to do that,'' Gruden said. ``He sparked us. He ignited us. He made some great plays in the game.''

          Griese likes the responsibility that comes with the quarterback role in Gruden's offense. That was evident during the Bucs' final drive Sunday when Griese threw on three consecutive downs and converted a third-down play with a 14-yard pass to Michael Pittman.

          ``I like how much the offense is put in the quarterback's hands,'' Griese said. ``They really require the quarterback to pull the trigger, put the team in the right play, to make the right reads and to win the game.

          ``I've been in places where games have been taken out of the quarterback's hands.``

          Though Gruden said a decision on who would back up Griese would be made later...
          -10-12-2004, 07:46 AM
        • DJRamFan
          [Bucs] The present is Griese's, if only for one week
          by DJRamFan
          By GARY SHELTON, Times Sports Columnist
          Published October 11, 2004

          NEW ORLEANS - Yesterday belongs to someone else. Tomorrow has already been promised.

          All Brian Griese has is today.

          For him, for now, it is enough.

          He does not instill faith, the way an old starter does. He does not carry hope the way a young one does.

          All Griese provided was a victory.

          For the Bucs, for the time being, it was plenty.

          When it came to saving the day, was anyone looking toward Griese? When it came to a lifeguard dragging a season out of choppy water, did anyone look his direction?

          In a season that came down to a choice of Brad vs. Chris, he was the overlooked quarterback. No one pleaded his case. No one called his name. He was just another son of another quarterback-turned-analyst, another passer who was interesting enough to notice but not inviting enough to debate.

          Until Sunday, that is, when Griese quietly and efficiently dropped his name into the Bucs' quarterback debate.

          Griese came off the bench to win the game for the Bucs on Sunday. On a team that has been erratic, he provided efficiency. In a situation bordering on chaos, he supplied calm. He was precise, poised, polished. In other words, against the Saints, he out-Bradded Brad.

          Considering that Griese had been stuck between forlorn and forgotten, he had a pretty spiffy day.

          Who would have figured Griese would steal the show? Sunday was supposed to belong to Chris Simms, boy wonder. Griese was just another unpicked player in the Dating Game.

          When the Bucs benched Brad Johnson earlier in the week, they looked right past Griese. Why not? In his career, Griese has been called everything but special. In the game of Who's-Your-Daddy, you would have expected Phil Simms, the old Giant, to have had the warm father-son chat on Sunday evening. Instead the call went to Bob Griese, the old Dolphin.

          For 20 plays, Simms looked like exactly the right choice. Of the Bucs quarterbacks, Simms has the most voltage, and there is something to his play that seems to energize his team. He moved well in the pocket, and he threw fastballs.

          Then Simms was sacked, and the muscles in his left shoulder were twisted into braids. That was when Griese rose from the ashes and said hello. He hit 16 of 19 passes, and he controlled the game like Bobby Fischer at a chess board.

          And now for the big question:

          Who starts now?

          If you are Jon Gruden, the answer lies in Simms' sore shoulder. If Simms' shoulder isn't damaged, it's an easy decision. You made it last week.

          Provided Simms somehow wakes up over the next few mornings and, whillickers, his shoulder is all healed, then he should start against the Rams. None of his 20 snaps against the Saints were an argument...
          -10-11-2004, 01:18 PM
        • DJRamFan
          [Bucs] Walker May Unseat Steussie At Tackle
          by DJRamFan
          From The Tampa Tribune
          Published: Oct 12, 2004






          TAMPA - The switch to Brian Griese at quarterback may not be the only change the Bucs make to their starting lineup for Monday night's game.
          The Bucs also may name a new starter at right tackle, where incumbent Todd Steussie and Kenyatta Walker seem to be headed in opposite directions.

          Steussie, an 11-year veteran who received a $4 million free- agent signing bonus, has started every game but struggled in his transition to the right side. Sunday, he was beaten for the first-quarter sack that injured starting QB Chris Simms.

          Walker's reps have increased steadily the past two weeks, and he played every offensive snap in Steussie's place after the sack that knocked out Simms.

          On Monday, Coach Jon Gruden refused to name a starter, saying he will let the players' practice performances decide their fate. He added that the competition has been especially good for Walker.

          ``I think Todd Steussie has brought out the best in Kenyatta Walker,'' Gruden said. ``And that was our intent all along - to let the best man play.''

          BRAD STAYING PUT: Though he wouldn't go as far as to name Brad Johnson the No. 2 quarterback this week, Gruden stressed the former starter is a ``big part of this team, and he's going to continue to be that.''

          Johnson has declined to comment to the local media since his benching, but he said in an interview with SI.com that he would be open to a trade if it was the ``right situation'' and ``the sooner, the better.''

          ``We are not going to trade Brad Johnson,'' Gruden said, addressing rumors that have been circulating since Johnson was demoted last week for Simms. ``I am not going to answer all of the rumor mill.''

          Griese, this week's starter, has been in a similar situation as Johnson. His first year as a starter in Denver, the Broncos began the season 0-4 and he was benched. Griese also dealt with a shoulder injury and can empathize with Simms.

          ``I know exactly where Brad is right now and how he feels,'' Griese said. ``I know exactly where Chris is and what he feels. I've been in that situation as well.

          ``Right now it's a situation where we need to go out and win some games so whatever the quarterback position, the three of us need to go out and do it and we'll all be cool for each other.''

          THE SOUND OF SILENCE: Gruden won't be listed on the injury report this week, but he could be. He's suffering from a case of laryngitis so bad that the Bucs considered bringing in a backup play caller during Sunday's game.

          ``We brought [quarterbacks coach] John Shoop out of the press box just in case he had to call the plays,'' Gruden said in a voice even more raspy than usual Monday.

          ``Maybe we should have brought him out and let...
          -10-12-2004, 07:47 AM
        • DJRamFan
          [Bucs] It's A Start
          by DJRamFan
          By ROY CUMMINGS [email protected]
          Published: Oct 11, 2004




          NEW ORLEANS - For the first time since December, a scoreboard clock wound down to zero with the Bucs holding a lead Sunday.
          You wouldn't have known it from walking through their locker room.

          The Bucs' 20-17 victory against the Saints produced the season's first collection of postgame smiles, but some frowns remained.

          ``It's hard to celebrate right now,'' linebacker Derrick Brooks said. ``There definitely are some heavy hearts in here.''

          The heaviest belonged to quarterback Chris Simms, who couldn't finish his first pro start after spraining his throwing shoulder on a first-quarter sack.

          As of late Sunday, no one was sure just when the left- handed Simms would be able to make his second pro start.

          Simms was saying he could return to face the Rams next Monday, but he still wasn't able to lift his left arm over his head when he said that.

          ``Do I think I'm going to be out a month? No, I don't think so,'' Simms said. ``With some heavy massage, I should be able to play next week.''

          Bucs coach Jon Gruden wasn't ready to rule Simms out of next week's game, either.

          ``He's day-to-day,'' Gruden said. ``That's really just about all I can say on the matter right now.''

          The good news is that X-rays came up negative. An MRI is scheduled for today to confirm the nature of the injury.

          The better news is that just about everything backup quarterback Brian Griese did after taking over for Simms was positive.

          In his first regular-season action as a Buc, Griese completed 16 of 19 passes for 194 yards and a touchdown and helped Tampa Bay (1-4) break a six-game losing streak. The Bucs won on the road for the first time since their last visit to New Orleans on Dec. 7.

          ``He did a heck of a job out there,'' Gruden said of Griese. ``He should be the story today.''

          He's certainly a big part of it. But so too is Jeff Gooch, the backup middle linebacker who did a credible job as a fill-in himself.

          Gooch replaced starter Shelton Quarles, who left the game in the first quarter with a quad strain, and led the defense with nine tackles.

          ``You really have to appreciate the work of guys like Brian Griese and Jeff Gooch,'' Brooks said. ``We had guys make some attitude plays today.''

          Cornerback Ronde Barber made one. He picked up a second-quarter Deuce McAllister fumble and carried it into the end zone for the Bucs' first touchdown.

          Fellow cornerback Brian Kelly, who picked off an Aaron Brooks pass to snuff out a late New Orleans drive, also had one of those plays. And so did running back Michael Pittman.

          On third-and-5 just before the two-minute warning, Pittman eluded three would-be...
          -10-11-2004, 01:09 PM
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