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  • Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

    The media loves Jerry Rice. He is, without question, the most productive WR of all time, and one of the most productive players of all time. His work ethic and ability to play into his 40s is admirable.

    But... all that does not change the fact that the guy's a jerk.

    I won't mention the massage parlor incident (Oops! I just did!). Instead, I'll focus on two recent events.

    First, a few weeks ago, his record streak of consecutive games with a reception ended IN A GAME THAT HIS TEAM WON. You would think that he would react by simply commenting after the game that "its been a good run," while confirming that the important thing was that his team won. Instead, he threw a tantrum on the sideline.

    Now, he's traded to Seattle and he takes Steve Largent's #80 jersey. Apparently, this was approved by Largent and the team... but that's not the point. Steve Largent is a Seattle football icon. Perhaps... the only Seattle football icon. In that city, #80 should always represent Largent, not some washed-up carpetbagger who lacks the class to SIMPLY WEAR ANOTHER NUMBER!!!

    I'm sure Chris Berman and other Rice apologists will find some way to excuse this act of hubris. Me... I've had about enough of Rice's act.
    Last edited by AvengerRam_old; -10-20-2004, 09:14 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Can we stop praying at the altar of Jerry Rice now?

    Actually, regarding the number, the guys on NFL Live said they thought Rice should say thanks but no thanks. I've had this discussion with others and have taken the same position - for as much respect as Rice has gotten over his career, you'd think he could give a little bit to another player and opt to wear a different number.

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    • #3
      Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

      I heard that he actually didn't want to have a number on the jersey, just a big "ME."

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        Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

        I heard that he requested the number. Seattle said that it was Largents number and was retired. He asked if it couldn't be "un-retired"? They said they would have to contact Largent. He said that would be good. They called Largent, and with class, he said sure.

        What a classless act against the only #80 Seattle has ever had. I wonder what the fans think of it???
        This space for rent...

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        • #5
          Re: Can we stop praying at the altar of Jerry Rice now?

          [QUOTE=AvengerRam]Steve Largent is a Seattle football icon. Perhaps... the only Seattle football icon. In that city, #80 should always represent Largent, not some washed-up carpetbagger who lacks the class to SIMPLY WEAR ANOTHER NUMBER!!![QUOTE]

          Well, that's a new one.

          I'm agreeing with a bunch of Rams fans. :king:

          Personally, I think Rice will help us sustain drives in the slot, but the #80 thing has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Obviously, he would have honored Largent more by taking a pass. And for the organization to accept it when there were years that the Largent Mystique was the only thing keeping the Seahawks from being no more interesting to America than the Arizona Freakin' Cardinals...

          It's an insult to the greatest player the team has ever had.

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          • #6
            Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

            I guess the question I would have is why the Seattle Front Office felt it necessary not to intervene on Largent's behalf and just say that the organization retired the number and not the league. Just as much as it might say about Rice, it says volumes about the Seattle organization.

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            • #7
              Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

              I agree that it should not have been put in Largent's lap. As a class act, he's going to say "Sure, no problem" but you have to believe that he would prefer that the number stay retired. Somebody else should have told Rice to pick another number.

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              • #8
                Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                Rice - a classless request
                Seattle FO - a gutless buckpass
                Largent - an honorable gesture
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                • #9
                  Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                  Great post Avenger. I agree wholeheartedly. Rice perhaps, could have taken a play from Barry Sanders book and retired in his prime rather than bouncy from team to team to think he can still be young.

                  Seahawks fans should be ticked dfarrar777. Besides, now that you've agreed with us your intelligence has gone up lol (just kiddin' ya)

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                    Re: Can we stop praying at the altar of Jerry Rice now?

                    [QUOTE=dfarrar777][QUOTE=AvengerRam]Steve Largent is a Seattle football icon. Perhaps... the only Seattle football icon. In that city, #80 should always represent Largent, not some washed-up carpetbagger who lacks the class to SIMPLY WEAR ANOTHER NUMBER!!!

                    Well, that's a new one.

                    I'm agreeing with a bunch of Rams fans. :king:

                    Personally, I think Rice will help us sustain drives in the slot, but the #80 thing has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Obviously, he would have honored Largent more by taking a pass. And for the organization to accept it when there were years that the Largent Mystique was the only thing keeping the Seahawks from being no more interesting to America than the Arizona Freakin' Cardinals...

                    It's an insult to the greatest player the team has ever had.
                    I feel for you guys in Seattle. I can't imagine someone else wearing Bruce's #80 for the Rams. I'm sure you guys are just as (if not more) dumbfounded at Rice's request for Largent's number. No one else should be wearing #80 in Seattle except Largent.
                    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                      I find this so disrespectful. I personally admired Rice in the past for his abilities as a player. But this is uncalled for. Why Rice even requested that number of Largent shows absolutely no consideration to this man. There’s a reason a number is retired for a player, it was DESERVINGLY EARNED!!!! If they are going to reverse that decision, what’s the fricken point of retiring it in the first place???? Mr. Steve Largent deserves kudos for being the gentleman that he was to allow it, which he shouldn’t have been put in that position in the first place. Seattle??? What kind of organization are you running up there???

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                      • #12
                        Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                        He's good, but I think he has always been overrated....Any real good reciever could have done the same with 2 hall of fame qb's throwing passes and championship caliber teams year after year. I wonder how he would have done with the bucs or bengals and other mediocre qb's throwing to him?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                          ProFootballTalk on the Largent issue....


                          RICE WRONG TO TAKE LARGENT'S NUMBER

                          We touched on this issue on Tuesday night. Now that we've had a chance to ponder it some more, we're convinced that Jerry Rice will be committing a major faux pas (French for fauxck up) if he dons No. 80 for his new team, the Seattle Seahawks.

                          In sports, numbers have loads of meaning, and the retiring of numbers is a big deal.

                          The unretiring of numbers, for any reason, is largely unprecedented.

                          Of course, some of the same qualities that made Steve Largent one of the all-time greats likewise prompted him to take the high road on this one, allowing Rice to take Largent's jersey down from the rafters and wear it for the 10 games or so that Jerry will actually be a member of the team. Our guess, however, is that Largent privately is seething about the fact that Rice even made the request.

                          "It's an honor for me to wear that No. 80 out of respect to [Largent]," Rice said. "When he said that, man, it sent chills through my body because I know what he has done for this city. You think about the Seattle Seahawks, you think about Steve Largent. And for him to just say that, without any hesitation, that I could wear his jersey, that meant the world to me."

                          Sure, Rice tried to say all the right things, but does anybody believe that Rice wanted to wear No. 80 out of respect for Largent? Or was it to further glorify Rice's own massive ego, which it now seems had been satiated over the years by the stats, and by that ridiculously overblown record of consecutive games (drum roll please) catching a pass?

                          We suggested on Tuesday that Rice should do something fresh in Seattle, like wear No. 16, Joe Montana's number from their mutual heyday in San Fran. A reader reminded us that, when Montana left the ***** for Kansas City, Joe had enough sense not to ask Len Dawson if No. 16 could be taken out of mothballs.

                          Jerry, you should take a page from your old teammate. Give up number 80. Ask Tom Rouen for No. 16 instead.

                          Will any of this tarnish Rice's legacy? Probably not. But if Jerry doesn't zip his lip and walk away from the game soon, there's a chance that the initial vote for his induction into the Hall of Fame might draw more than a few "nays."

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                          • #14
                            Re: Can we stop praying at the alter of Jerry Rice now?

                            Didn't he try to give up the #80 when the Whiners legacy was coming to an end, i.e. Young retiring and such. Then he wanted something like the #6 because that's how many points he gets everytime he scores a TD. Of course the league overuled that option.

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                              by Guest
                              October 23, 2004 (NHS) -- Jerry Rice was traded to Seattle for, well, nothing (his true market value) after a typical episode of Jerry being Jerry (being an egomaniacal a-hole). But the most overrated individual in sports history got his way in the end -- which is all that matters, right? -- notwithstanding the stench of how it went down.

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                              And Jerry couldn't hack it.

                              It's no coincidence that it took just two games in a legitimate offensive scheme to spell the end of one of the most perverted pieces of meaningless NFL trivia -- Rice's little "consecutive games with a catch" streak.

                              There are complete idiots that use this among "proof" that Rice is, laughably, "the greatest player ever", but perhaps now they'll connect the dots that the entire "streak" was based on nothing more than throwing him an avalanche of cheesy 2-yard dink attempts in the Wuss Coast offense, and not anything of value.

                              But alas, this concept continues to boggle the braintrust in the media. The San Jose Mercury wrote, "Raiders Coach Norv Turner had no explanation Monday for Rice's diminishing role, other than to say: 'It's a different offense, a different style of offense, and we have a lot of people playing.'"

                              Hey, geniuses -- how exactly is this "no explanation"??

                              The fact that it's a different offense is the exact explanation.

                              Truth is, Rice's skills only translate to the gimmick Wuss Coast offense. When he ended up in the Raiders' traditional offense by mistake, his skills became garbage. Other smaller, faster receivers that can actually get open down the field are more valuable to Norv Turner's scheme.

                              The explanation that eludes the faculties of our lovable media is simply put: end of WCO, end of Jerry. It's just that simple. It's the same reason Steve Young was worthless in Tampa Bay. It's a shame it took 20 years until Rice ended up by chance in a real offense to finally see the truth we've known all along come to fruition. Too bad we never got to see Joe Montana leave the shelter of the cozy dink pass offense.

                              Same old class
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                              When the apocalypse actually happened and the game ended without the Divine Catch being bestowed upon the Almighty, the media spin started kicking the helmet of truth. Even though all reputable...
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                              OAKLAND

                              SUNDAY'S GAME against the Buffalo Bills had been over for nearly 30 minutes, and Jerry Rice's white-hot anger had subsided.

                              Rice laughed about how he had slammed his helmet to the ground, one-hopping the Raiders' bench late in the fourth quarter of their 13-10 victory.

                              He joked about how he had kicked a plastic yard-line marker, accidentally bouncing it off a cop's leg on the sidelines.

                              Nearly a half hour had passed since Rice's NFL record streak of 274 games with at least one catch had ended.

                              His anger had subsided, but his pride was still clearly hurting.

                              Rice hadn't been blanked since Dec. 1, 1985, against the Washington Redskins during his rookie season with the *****.

                              Eight days later that year in a Monday night game against the Rams, Rice started a catch streak that lasted over 18 seasons and through four U.S. presidents, from Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush.

                              Rice went on to became arguably the NFL's greatest receiver, smashing records left and right. Now, at 41, he's an afterthought. That reality, more than the streak's death, is what hurt most.

                              "It's something that's hard to deal with because you pride yourself on catching the football," Rice said. "Even without the streak, you pride yourself on catching the football during the game. And it's been a long time. I can't recall. It's been a long time.

                              "I never thought it would come to an end like this, but you know, it's OK. It's all right. It happens. Life goes on. I'll just start another one."

                              It's been a long time since Rice was all but ignored in a football game. But that's what happened Sunday. Quarterback Rich Gannon threw Rice's way one time. That second-quarter sideline pass sailed well over Rice's head.

                              Rice spent most of the game running deep clear-out patterns, opening up space for other receivers.

                              "Well, I'm in great shape," Rice said, laughing. "It reminds me of the movie, what's his name, run Forrest run? Forrest Gump? Well, run Forrest run. I was running. I was running hard, too."

                              When Rice was in his prime, his coaches and quarterback basically made sure he kept his streak alive. They were aware when Rice's streak was in jeopardy.

                              And now?

                              Well, new Raiders coach Norv Turner said he didn't realize Rice's streak was on life support until offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye told him with only 2:20 remaining. By then, it was too late. The Raiders got the ball back with 1:17 left and ran out the clock.

                              "There's no way in that situation you're going to throw a pass," Turner said.

                              "I would like to (have seen) Jerry continue his streak. It disappoints me that he didn't."

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                              As Rice was conducting his first interview of training camp, Rams running back Steven Jackson got in a quick jab as he walked into the team's lunch room.

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                              "This is a who-produces-and-who-doesn't-produce business."

                              Rice, 24, said his family in the Baltimore, Md., was excited after watching his big night on television.

                              "I spent more time talking on the phone than I did actually playing," Rice said. "Everybody was pretty pumped up."

                              Rice said he's had three sacks previously in a game, but he couldn't recall the specifics.

                              "I have a short-term memory, man," Rice said. "In high school and college, I had similar games."

                              The 6-foot-3, 256-pound Rice had 23 sacks, including 10 as a senior, in high school, and 17 sacks in 44 games while playing at Penn State.

                              Rice was expecting a call during the 2006 NFL draft, but it never came. He ended up signing as an undrafted free agent with the Buffalo Bills, but was cut, and subsequently signed by the Rams on the first day of training camp.

                              "It was a surprise," Rice said of going undrafted. "It was something I just dealt with. I've learned from life experiences. Not being drafted, it made me focus more on things off the field. It made me get my business going off the field."

                              Rice is an artist who recently started his own business, "Mateo Blu." The name is combination of his first name in spanish and his nickname of "Blue."

                              "What I love to do is oil paint more than anything," Rice said. "My style is not really defined because I keep changing up.
                              ...
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