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  • QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

    December 29, 2004

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. Ė Kurt Warner believes he can and will be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

    QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.
    Eli Manning is the Giantsí starter. Therefore, the Giantsí Sunday night season finale against the Dallas Cowboys could well be Warnerís final game in a Giants uniform.

    ďVery possibly,Ē Warner said today. ďI think everybody would foresee that being the case. Who knows whatís going to happen? You never know what the future has in store and what could transpire. But I think thatís everybodyís thought process right now.

    ďI want to be somewhere starting next year. They know itís not here with the New York Giants. And they understand my point of view 100 percent.Ē

    Warner, who was signed as a free agent on June 2 after a record-breaking six-year run with the St. Louis Rams, started the first nine games of the season. The Giants were 5-4 in those games and Warner completed 62.8 percent of his passes (174 of 277) for 2,054 yards, six touchdowns and four interceptions. Warnerís quarterback rating of 86.5 still ranks seventh in the NFC.

    After a 17-14 loss in Arizona on November 14, coach Tom Coughlin named Manning the new starting quarterback. The first pick in this yearís NFL Draft Ė and a player the Giants obtained in a trade of draft choices, including this yearís first round pick -- Manning was the quarterback of the future. The only question was when that future would arrive.

    Since it did, Warner has played just once in relief, an appearance in a hopelessly lost cause in the fourth quarter of a 23-point defeat in Baltimore, where he led the Giants to their only offensive touchdown.

    Throughout what could have been a difficult or uncomfortable position, Warner has carried himself with dignity and grace. He has helped Manning whenever possible. Warner has publicly advocated that Coughlin stick with Manning, even when the youngster struggled, and it seemed he might have a shot to play again. And Warner has never hidden from the media. Today he entered the locker room and said, ďDoes anybody need me?Ē

    While Warner is an exceptional gentleman, he is also an intense competitor. It is that fire that helped him win two NFL Most Valuable Player awards and twice lead the Rams to the Super Bowl, including a victory five years ago. At 33, Warner insists he has plenty of good football left in him, a notion that was cemented in his own mind by his play early this season.

    ďIím not going to be content, right now in my career, where I am and what I believe I can do, being a backup next year,Ē he said. ďItís just the bottom line. Itís nothing against the New York Giants, itís nothing against the situation, the coaches, the organization. I love my year here. But Iím not content being a backup. I think I did things this year, I won games this year, I did the things that I needed to do play good football and to win games, and Iíve proven that I can play and start in this league.Ē

    Warner was asked if the Giants are aware of his situation.

    ďI donít know the whole situation in the organization,Ē he said. ďWe havenít sat down and talked about it. But I donít think thereís any question that they know my feeling and my thoughts about being a starter in this league. Anything I say in my comments has nothing to do with this organization or the coaches or the players or what happened this year. Itís just that I believe Iím still a starter in this league. Until I change my thought process and decide that Iím going to be a backup, Iím never going to be content sitting on the bench. And itís not right now. I havenít resigned myself to that fact yet.Ē

  • #2
    Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

    I have one thing to say. actually two things to say. Norv Turner & Raiders.


    • #3
      Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

      I take it you posted this in the wrong forum....


      • #4
        Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

        I have one thing to say. actually two things to say. Norv Turner & Raiders.
        You have the right division, but "Shanahan" and "Broncos" are the words you're looking for.


        • #5
          Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

          if Warner conceeded that he is no longer a starting quality QB in this league.. why not come back as back-up to the rams!!! i.e. we have a vacancy


          • #6
            Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

            Here's where we could see him:

            San Francisco

            These are all teams that could possibly have an opening or want someone to challenge their (pathetic) starting Qb's. Chicago looks kind of interesting with Lovie, but they might be happy with Rex (although I wouldn't be).


            • #7
              Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

              Raiders: Nope. Collins has proven himself and gotten better as the season has rolled along. He's not the problem in Oakland and they have other options in place already for the backups.

              Broncos: A longshot, but Shanahan (I think) is fed up with Jake's up's and down's. He always seems to pull a bone-headed play. I've also heard rumors that Shanhan would have taken Warner if the timing was different before the year.

              Miami: A decent possibility. Mentioned by Warner as one of three teams that are early possibilities. Too many changes going on at the top right now to make a solid guess though. Who knows what Saban is going to do once he get's there. Are there any LSU qb's floating around out there?

              San Francisco: I would say no. They're still in the process of re-building and I think are fairly happy with Rattay (and his low salary) and Dorsey. Both have shown potential under poor playing circumstances so I wouldn't guess that Donahue (Erickson might be gone) will give up on them yet.

              Arizona: Logically, all the pieces make for a perfect fit for Warner. Up and coming offense with lot's of potential fire-power. A coach who's actually getting things turned around (slowly) and a warm climate to play in. Add to that the storyline that would accompany playing the NFC west and it seems like a great possibility. I just have a gut feeling that he's not on Denny's radar.

              Dallas: So far, this seems to be the strongest possibility (not to say that it is a strong possibility). Warner has mentioned Dallas as a team he's looking into. Vinny T. is considering retirement. Romo and Hensen are way too green to be leading the Cowboys under Parcells and they play in a dome/warm weather. But, like Arizona, Parcells hasn't shown any indication that Warner is a possibility. In fact, Parcells had a chance to get Warner before this year and didn't so I don't know that I'd count on him giving Warner a shot now. It's possible but it doesn't seem like it'll happen.

              Chicago: More connections that make it seem feasable for Warner to sign on (Lovie) and the lack of depth at qb all point to Chicago being an option. Of course, I think Warner will be as picky as possible when it comes to evaluating the team's offensive potential and I would think that the Bears wouldn't be a good fit for someone wanting to win some games. I don't watch the Bears enough to know for sure but their offense hasn't been good for a loooong time and I don't know that Warner would want to go from the Giants straight to the Bears. A wr that could outrun a nosetackle has to be on Warner's wish list at this point so I'm skeptical of Chicago landing him.

              It's going to be very intersting to see who will offer Warner a chance to win the starting job but in the end I think it will be a surprise team that he goes to rather than an obvious choice like Chicago, Miami, etc.

              *Looking at the list I just posted I forgot to mention the Lions as a strong darkhouse for Warner. With McMahon being an UFA and never getting a real chance in Detroit, I think he will be gone from the Lions (maybe the Rams? I would love to see him in blue & gold). Harrington has been falling out of favor in my opinion and Warner would love to play in the domes of the North (8 in detroit plus 1 in Minnesota. 9 dome games a year would probably be desired by Warner and his thumb) as well as distribute the ball to Rogers/Williams/Hakim/Jones. The Mooch connection from his San Fran days makes it all the more intriguing.
              Last edited by moklerman; -12-31-2004, 01:48 PM.


              • #8
                Re: QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.

                Here's list of qb's that might be floating around this offseason to add to the speculation (I stole this off of the BBWC mb, thanks to whoever compiled it).

                Kordell Stewart UFA Ravens-decent backup on Ravens, does not complain, knows the NFL
                Kelly Holcomb UFA Browns- has started and won recently in the NFL
                Mike McMahon UFA Lions- very interesting player may look for a team with a verteran QB were he might get some more time(ie Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans)

                these others are the very definition of journeyman career backup QB
                Todd Collins UFA Chiefs
                Damon Huard UFA Chiefs
                Gus Frerotte UFA Vikings
                Ty Detmer UFA Falcons
                Jeff Blake UFA Eagles

                2004 FREE Agent QB's

                Shane Matthews UFA Bills
                Jim Miller UFA Patriots
                Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins
                Josh Harris ERFA Ravens
                Kordell Stewart UFA Ravens
                Kelly Holcomb UFA Browns
                Charlie Batch UFA Steelers
                Tony Banks UFA Texans
                Matt Mauck ERFA Broncos
                Bradlee Van Pelt ERFA Broncos
                Todd Collins UFA Chiefs
                Damon Huard UFA Chiefs
                David Rivers ERFA Raiders
                Drew Brees UFA Chargers
                Mike McMahon UFA Lions
                Rick Mirer UFA Lions
                Craig Nall RFA Packers
                Doug Pederson UFA Packers
                Gus Frerotte UFA Vikings
                Shaun Hill ERFA Vikings
                Josh McCown RFA Cardinals
                Matt Hasselbeck UFA Seahawks
                Brock Huard UFA Seahawks
                Ty Detmer UFA Falcons
                Rod Rutherford ERFA Panthers
                Vinny Testaverde UFA Cowboys
                Jesse Palmer UFA Giants
                Jeff Blake UFA Eagles
                Tim Hasselbeck ERFA Redskins


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                • r8rh8rmike
                  Interesting Takes From Warner & Coughlin
                  by r8rh8rmike
                  Wednesday, June 9, 2004

                  By Sal Paolantonio
                  Special to

                  EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- You can see it in his eyes. Kurt Warner's eyes are wide open, revealing the happiness of a man who has emerged from the long slumber of lost opportunity.

                  "I feel completely re-energized," said Warner, as he came off the field after his first mini-camp practice with his new team, the New York Giants.

                  Warner lacked some zip on his passes during practices.
                  Rewind to Giants Stadium, Week 1 last year. Under constant pressure from Michael Strahan and company, Warner was sacked six times and fumbled six times, and started his last game for the St. Louis Rams. Sitting on the trainer's table in the visitors' locker room at Giants Stadium that Sunday afternoon, Warner had just been diagnosed with a mild concussion and his eyes had the vacant look of a man who had just bought a one-way ticket down the rabbit hole.

                  The contrast between Warner then and Warner now couldn't be more stark. And the situation couldn't be more ironic -- the team that ended his season has now handed Warner a chance at NFL redemption.

                  It's no wonder that Warner has displayed the same wide-eyed eagerness of the former stock boy from Iowa who emerged from NFL Europe and replaced the injured Trent Green to re-write the history of Rams football in St. Louis.

                  "Normally, the player will sit down and will have to talk to his agent on the phone," said Giants head coach Tom Coughlin. "He said, 'I don't want any of this. Let's get this done.' He signed right away. He was down the hall, looking for coaches, saying 'Let's go meet.' He wanted to get himself immersed in this offense right away."

                  There is good reason for Warner to be anxious. Coming to New York means that Warner, who will be 33 on June 22, will be under-going several mid-life, mid-course adjustments.

                  He must adjust to the demands of Coughlin's offense, which shall we say is a bit more conservative than the Greatest Show on Turf choreographed by Mike Martz. And Warner will be learning the new offense with a newly minted franchise quarterback, Eli Manning, looking over his shoulder.

                  The Giants invested two first-round draft picks and expended a lot of public relations good will to acquire Manning in a trade with San Diego in this year's NFL draft. Some see Warner as the perfect mentor for Manning, or at least a temporary diversion so that Manning can incubate his talents without being over-exposed by the white, hot lights of the New York media.

                  Warner will have none of that. You can tell by the tone and conviction in his voice that, for Warner, this is not about Peyton Manning's little brother.

                  "Obviously, I'm coming in to...
                  -06-10-2004, 04:07 PM
                • WisRamsFan
                  Warner in the correct forum
                  by WisRamsFan
                  Warner becomes caretaker QB until Manning ready

                  By TOM CANAVAN, AP Sports Writer
                  June 3, 2004
                  EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- The New York Giants are taking some of the pressure off Eli Manning , signing Kurt Warner to be their caretaker quarterback until the top pick in the draft is ready to take over.

                  While the two-time MVP got a two-year contract late Wednesday that will pay him a minimum of $3.5 million this year, there is no guarantee the two-time NFL MVP will play for the Giants for more than a year.

                  When Manning is ready to go, he will be the Giants' quarterback.


                  Until then, the job seemingly belongs to Warner, the soon-to-be 33-year-old who led the St. Louis Rams to Super Bowl appearances after the 1999 and 2001 seasons. Injuries and the emergence of Marc Bulger earned him a pink slip on Tuesday.

                  ``I am looking to come in and to play and to re-establish myself,'' Warner said at Thursday, hours after his first practice. ``I would love this to be where I finish my career.''

                  Warner has incentives that can push his salary to $8 million this season. However, the second year of his contract is voidable and his tenure may well be determined by Manning's progress in his rookie season.

                  ``I don't want to keep moving and picking up my family,'' Warner added. ``I want to continue to have success. I would love it to be here in New York and I will do whatever in my time here to be successful. We'll just see what happens.''

                  ``Obviously Manning is there, but this is New York and if Kurt wins, they are not going to want him to leave,'' said Mark Bartelstein, Warner's agent.

                  The signing takes a ton of pressure off Manning.

                  The son of Archie Manning and the brother of Colts quarterback Peyton Manning became the Giants' starting quarterback when Kerry Collins refused to take a pay cut and was released less than a week after New York got the No. 1 pick in a draft-day trade with San Diego.

                  Manning, who has known for weeks the Giants planned to sign a veteran, still plans on competing for the starting job.

                  ``I don't know if this takes the pressure off,'' Manning said. ``I don't know if anything has changed in my view. I am still going to practice just as hard as ever. I want to be ready.''

                  Manning and Warner spoke for a few minutes on Thursday. Warner plans to tutor Manning, just as he did with Bulger in St. Louis.

                  ``To teach a guy the little things and have him become a better quarterback was fun for me, as frustrating as it was not playing,'' Warner said. ``But I look forward to helping any way I can.''

                  Warner also is looking forward to playing again. He suffered a concussion in a season-opening loss to the Giants last season and did not start for the rest of the year. He...
                  -06-03-2004, 02:58 PM
                • LaRamsFanLongTime
                  Kurt Warner has been benched
                  by LaRamsFanLongTime
                  After another hard loss for the New Yourk Giants, Tom Coughlin announced that Eli Manning will start for the Giants. After the loss Coughlin said Warner would start but Monday the story changed and so did the starting QB for the Giants.

                  "Eli has been involved in the game plan, he knows the system and he will come in and play the game."

                  "Kurt will be very supportive of Eli."
                  This sucks for Kurt, man I was pulling for him.
                  -11-15-2004, 11:37 AM
                • Yodude
                  Why Coughlin Picked Warner....
                  by Yodude
                  Horrible game with Rams opened door for Warner to sign with Giants
                  Friday, October 22, 2004
                  By Tom Kowalski

                  ALLEN PARK -- Kurt Warner has won a Super Bowl, a couple of NFL Most Valuable Player awards and has set all kinds of passing records, but he's currently the New York Giants quarterback because head coach Tom Coughlin was impressed with one of Warner's worst-ever games.

                  In last year's season opener, when he was quarterbacking the St. Louis Rams, Warner had a horrific game against the Giants. He was sacked six times, fumbled six times (losing three) and was intercepted once in New York's 23-13 win against the Rams.

                  Coughlin, who became the Giants head coach this year, remembered that performance (after watching game films) when he was deciding whether to sign Warner as a free agent in the off-season.

                  "I looked hard at the game," said Coughlin, whose 4-1 Giants host the 3-2 Detroit Lions Sunday at Giants Stadium. "He had the turnovers, no question, but he also performed with outstanding toughness even well into the fourth quarter, despite the statistics, the turnovers and all of those things. He was battling and competing and had a high percentage completion rate even deep into the fourth quarter."

                  Coughlin, who is a hard-nosed throwback coach, wanted a competitor and that's what he got in Warner, who only wanted an opportunity to play. After his glory years in St. Louis, Warner stumbled hard with the Rams and it appeared his career might be over.

                  "I never had the doubt, from a personal standpoint, about my skills and that I could play at that level," Warner said. "I had some doubt about whether I'd get a legitimate chance to do it. That's where the doubts were. I always felt that if I ever got that opportunity, I could play this game as well as I've ever played it."

                  That's why Warner didn't want to sign with the Lions as a backup to Joey Harrington.

                  "It was kicked around and talked about a little bit but, obviously, they have a young quarterback who they've put some stock in and given him the opportunities to continue to progress," Warner said. "It wasn't the most conducive situation to what I was looking for, but I definitely considered it.

                  "(Lions) Coach (Steve) Mariucci is an old friend of mine and I really love the guy. That would've been a great fit, other than the standpoint that they have Joey there and he has so much talent and he's proven that's the right direction to go."

                  After a close training camp battle between Warner and first-round draft pick Eli Manning, the Giants decided they wanted to go with the veteran. Warner has responded with solid performances, completing 65 percent of his passes and throwing just one interception in five games. However, Warner -- and his three touchdown passes -- is...
                  -10-22-2004, 04:57 PM
                • AvengerRam_old
                  Giants have given up on Warner, season
                  by AvengerRam_old
                  They are down 37-7 after three quarters, and here are Eli's numbers:

                  Attempts: 17
                  Completions: 4
                  Yards: 27
                  TDs: 0
                  Ints: 2
                  QB Rating: -21.3!!!!!!!

                  And still, they haven't brought Warner back in.

                  Clearly the Giants want Eli to have his trial by fire, and they don't care if the season is burned along with him.

                  Oh well. At least Kurt showed enough in his nine games to get a gig next year.
                  -12-12-2004, 12:53 PM