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  • Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

    Another serviceable game from martin. Great great thrown on the bomb to curtis. Dont know what happened on the int to looker, he was open cant tell if it was the throw or looker. The int in the end zone was a fantastic play by the db.

    As backups go, he isnt so bad. I think the expectations on this board for backups in the cap era are often misplaced. How did garcia look today as a backup to the lions fans?

    Here is what i know about martin. 2-0.

    ramming speed to all

    general counsel

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    Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

    Martin was okay, and seemed to do much better when the play-calling shortened the field for him. Those interceptions could have hurt us much worse than they did, but Martin did a good job managing and leading drives later in the second half. I do not trust him throwing the ball down the field at all, though. Too many under/overthrows. I'll be glad when Bulger returns to the field.
    Last edited by Nick; -10-30-2005, 04:09 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

      martz definitely deserves some credit for his decision to go with jamie martin as the backup qb.

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      • #4
        Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

        Martin does worry me at times, but I agree with tanus that Martz was savy enough to realize it's important to have a guy that knows the offense, and other than Warner, no player knows it better than Martin. I'll take what Martin has been able to do any day. I will be glad to see Bulger back in the saddle against Seattle though.

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        • #5
          Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

          Amen to the return of bulger. With all the time martin had today, bulger would have lit them up big time. The key miss to the open curtis on the deep out in the 3rd quarter certainly comes to mind.

          ramming speed to all

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          • #6
            Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

            I still think martin stinks. Yeah we won and yes i love that but like the guy said..Martin had plenty of time to throw the ball all day.. Bulger would have lit them up..and if we can run the ball like this with bulger, holt, and bruce in the line up...WATCH OUT.

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            • #7
              Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

              You won't get any Martin support out of this guy. Not sure why anyone would think he was even serviceable again this week. Three Int's that were 100% his fault and all 3 came during some nice drives. Again he walks away lucky. I still think Fitz would have done just as well if not better and he would have been given an opportunity to grow.

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              • #8
                Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                He still stinks...compared to (Dan Marino volume 2) Marc Bulger. I think he would be better with Bruce and Holt in there and I couldn't imagine Curtis going up against teams nickel backs after facing the #1's the last 2 weeks. It looks like things are coming together with the D stepping up and Jackson running with authority.:helmet:

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                • #9
                  Re: Do people still think Jamie Martin stinks?

                  No, he doesn't 'stink'.

                  I think he is a good backup QB, definitely knows the Rams system and can perform the game plan. 'Rusty' is more the problem on his INTs ... to think this is only his 2nd start in 50 years as a pro (yes, of course, a backup in ANY position MUST be READY at ALL TIMES).

                  :1: It was good to see he didn't let go after those turnovers but kept in the fight.

                  On the other hand, I agree with Tanus and R8rh8rmike's comments. :up:

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                  • #10
                    Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                    not sure what some of you want out of a backup qb. if you really think a rookie 7th round draft pick would do better then i must ask you, why do you think he was drafted in the 7th round? he needs more time before he will be ready.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                      We Have To Say That He Played A Good Game Since He Did It Without Bruce Or Holt, But I Wouldnt Want Him For A Long Period Of Time.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                        Originally posted by jkramsfan
                        We Have To Say That He Played A Good Game Since He Did It Without Bruce Or Holt, But I Wouldnt Want Him For A Long Period Of Time.
                        He's a backup. Technically speaking, we don't want him playing period, unfortunately injuries happen and backups are sometimes pressed into service. He's got two wins, and that's all I care about. Good game Jamie Martin.

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                          Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                          Originally posted by r8rh8rmike
                          He's a backup. Technically speaking, we don't want him playing period, unfortunately injuries happen and backups are sometimes pressed into service. He's got two wins, and that's all I care about. Good game Jamie Martin.
                          Good point Mike! I was one of the crowd that didn't want to see him make the final roster at the end of camp, but it appears now that it is a good thing he did. However, I still cringe when he attempts the deep out ... it just seems like it takes forever for the ball to arrive.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                            He knows the system and has made a couple of nice deep throws to Curtis. He did his job, and surpassed expectations.

                            Probably needed all of Jacksons 170+ yards on the ground to make it work. I don't think we could win it on his arm, if needed.

                            Bye week, and bring back the starters.

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                              Re: Do people still think jamie martin stinks?

                              Originally posted by RamWraith
                              You won't get any Martin support out of this guy. Not sure why anyone would think he was even serviceable again this week. Three Int's that were 100% his fault and all 3 came during some nice drives. Again he walks away lucky. I still think Fitz would have done just as well if not better and he would have been given an opportunity to grow.
                              Well stated I agree 100%.

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                                As the Rams embarked on this season, the expectations for the offense were as high as they had been in years. At the top of the list of things expected to make the offense better was the continued development of quarterback Marc Bulger.

                                Bulger finished 2004 on a strong note and had made his move to the top tier of quarterbacks in the league. With that, even his teammates began to expect big things from their signal caller.

                                “I came into the year thinking that 10 had a chance to be MVP of the league,” defensive lineman Tyoka Jackson said. “I believe that. He has been hurt a couple times and that is killer to our team. You don’t like to go in games without all of your guns. We need him, but unfortunately he won’t be there. So we have to ride with what we got.”

                                What the Rams have is backup Jamie Martin. After Bulger suffered an aggravation of the sprained AC joint in his shoulder against Arizona on Sunday, Martin was left to take over for Bulger for the second time this season.

                                When Bulger suffered the injury the first time in the team’s loss to Indianapolis on Oct. 17, Martin came in and struggled at times. But, with Bulger out for the following two games against New Orleans and Jacksonville, Martin answered the call. In fact, Martin led the Rams to a pair of victories in those games to get them back to .500 going into the bye week.

                                Make no mistake, Martin didn’t exactly carry the Rams to wins in those games, but as a backup, he isn’t expected to.

                                “I have come to expect good things from Jamie,” receiver Torry Holt said. “He’s been here before; he’s been in this situation before. We rolled with Jamie the last two games before we went into the bye week. He has proven that we can win with Jamie. We are OK, we are fine with Jamie. We are fortunate enough to have a guy that understands the system.”

                                Martin’s numbers weren’t eye popping like some that Bulger has posted, but he did enough in the passing game to keep the Jaguars and Saints honest, opening things up for a pair of big games from running back Steven Jackson.

                                Against New Orleans, Martin was 18-of-29 for 198 yards. He had no touchdown passes, but didn’t throw an interception, either. A week later against the Jaguars, Martin had some more successes, but also a few more mistakes. In that game, he was 13-of-21 for 200 yards with two touchdowns and three interceptions. One of the touchdowns, though, was an 83-yard strike to Kevin Curtis.

                                “This is my career,” Martin said. “I’m a career backup to be ready in these situations. Having those two games earlier in the year under my belt really helps to kind of calm down this week and know what to expect and hopefully have some good games.”

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