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  • Loyalty LITTLE

    sorry guys but I've just got to let off steam about LITTLE!!!!

    He's just been offered a deal worth $3.5 million a year over 5 years and with a $5 million signing bonus!!! AND he TURNS IT DOWN????? WHY!!

    All that talk from LITTLE, about the RAMS have been great sticking by me through my troubled past so I owe it to them!!.

    I mean $3.5 million for a situational passrusher is prety good and I think the RAMS have been fair, the RAMS stuck by him in his hour off need plus he's playing for a championship team!!!!!

    I sometimes think maybe we should let him go, I was reading on ESPN that the RAMS would take a look at REINARD WILSON if Little departs

    It just puzzles me what these players are thinking is it there Agents??

    Any thoughts

    "The breakfast Club":helmet:

  • #2
    You're right...

    Little did turn down the Rams' first offer, so it looks like he won't stay. The Rams are the only reason he's still in the NFL, but apparently he doesn't care. If he wants to leave the Rams, that's his mistake, whether he or his agent makes the decision or not.



    • #3
      Sounds like the Rams made a fair offer to me.I guess greed got the best of Little.Thats a shame,but I think our defense will be fine without him.


      • #4
        I was one of the biggest Little supporters :mad: you human piece of garbage LIttle, you mother ****er:mad: "I owe it to the Rams" Yeah my ass ****face!!!!! **** YOU LEONARD LITTLE You were my favorite player on defense, you asshole!!!! .i. .i. .i. .i. :mad: I'M PISSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!


        • #5
          I read on ESPN that Little is going to talk with the Cardinals.Now that would be a career decision.:rolleyes: I cant believe he would consider giving up the Rams for Bidwells losers.By the way Mr.Blond,You're not a tad bit angry are you?;)Take a deep breath and relax a bit.Sometimes these things can be a blessing in disguise.
          Last edited by Aries51; -03-02-2002, 09:57 PM.


          • #6
            Originally posted by Aries51:
            Sometimes these things can be a blessing in disguise.
            Got that right.

            Originally posted by Aries51:
            I read on ESPN that Little is going to talk with the Cardinals.
            If he signs, I'll look forward to seeing him twice a year playing against the Rams. Let's hope the Rams can sign or draft a right tackle with enough talent to crush Little. Or maybe John St. Clair is good enough to step up...



            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr.Blond
              I was one of the biggest Little supporters :mad: you human piece of garbage LIttle, you mother ****er:mad: "I owe it to the Rams" Yeah my ass ****face!!!!! **** YOU LEONARD LITTLE You were my favorite player on defense, you asshole!!!! .i. .i. .i. .i. :mad: I'M PISSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              I have to say I would not have posted this but I sure as heck was thinking just the same thing :rolleyes:

              I agree 100% with your feelings Blondie ;) If that is the sort of loyalty shown by a player that owes EVERYTHING to his team, well good ridance ........... get you ass to a loosing team Little.

              Keeping the Rams Nation Talking


              • #8

                Originally posted by majorram:
                He's just been offered a deal worth $3.5 million a year over 5 years and with a $5 million signing bonus!!! AND he TURNS IT DOWN????? WHY!!
                Interesting... Little just signed a contract- 5 years, $17.5 million. With a $5 million signing bonus. Sound familiar?


                p.s.-for those of you not good at math, that's $3.5 million a year


                • #9
                  Thanks for the backup Dez and Aries, It's good to know you feel the same way. This Little thing, well, I just don't understand it. Maybe the guy will change his mind, if he doesn't, you're right, SCREW EM'. Take care:mask:


                  • #10
                    Evil Disco Man, WITH THE RAMS?


                    • #11

                      Look at Dez's recent thread... "Little signed". I think you'll be happy. Now stop complainin'. :p



                      • #12
                        This is beautiful Thanks for the update Disco,


                        • #13
                          I hate to say this as I thing the earth of London Fletcher but...

                          It looks pretty obvious to me that Little stepped in and told his "Agent" to get the deal signed with the Rams and stop farting about ......

                          on the other hand, Fletcher must have had a brain fart, its obvious that he has left this in the hands of his "agent" and the agent screwed him up.

                          Keeping the Rams Nation Talking


                          • #14
                            These secret agents...


                            I wonder what level of loyalty these fellows might sustain for an NFL team. That's obviously NOT their kind of business; apparently it cannot be in their interest. But fans and players need them: at times it is unfortunate for them, other times it becomes so unfortunate for the club -- and us!

                            :mask: Bah!
                            Glad Little is back with the Rams. Duncan should be a fine :helmet: LB.


                            • #15
                              from Barry Waller (clanram feature writer)

                              Fletcher has a bad agent. Little has Rocky Arceneaux, who is Faulk's agent and lives in St Louis and is considered one of the best. I think the loyalty issue was big for Little.

                              Keeping the Rams Nation Talking


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                              • RamWraith
                                Little Working to Return
                                by RamWraith
                                Thursday, March 27, 2008

                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                After finding himself in a precarious position that could have ended his tenure with the only NFL team he’s ever known, defensive end Leonard Little arrived in St. Louis this week for the team’s offseason conditioning program with a bit of a chip on his shoulder.

                                When you’re one of the team’s highest paid defenders and a veritable one man pass rush, a single sack in seven games and a season ending toe injury isn’t exactly the type of return anyone is looking for.

                                While Little understands that, he also recognizes that he isn’t that far removed from being one of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

                                “People don’t remember that the year before that when I had like 13.5 (sacks),” Little said. “I know I can still do it, and obviously the team knows I can still do it. It’s just a matter of me going out and doing it. Last year, I missed a lot of opportunities for sacks and stuff like that. I don’t like to dwell on last year because it’s passed, but I missed a lot of opportunities. This year, I just have to capitalize on opportunities and hopefully come out a little better.”

                                The opportunity to improve on a disappointing 2007 in which he was regularly getting close to quarterbacks but not finishing the job almost came in a different NFL city.

                                On Feb. 27, just before the start of the free agency period, the Rams and Little worked to re-structure the multi-million dollar contract he signed near the end of the 2006 season. Little was due a $7.17 million roster bonus and would have had the largest cap number on the team heading into 2008.

                                That number would have severely affected the team’s ability to make any kind of a splash in free agency. That left both sides with two options: re-structure or part ways.

                                Little prepared himself for either scenario.

                                “It’s a business before anything else,” Little said. “I kind of figured if they were going to do it, they were going to do it. If not, then I was going to move on and hopefully go somewhere else. I wasn’t really concerned about it. If it happened, it happened. If it didn’t, it didn’t. I was prepared either way. That’s the way I took it.”

                                For a player who has been with the Rams for the entirety of his 10-year career, the thought of not being in St. Louis wasn’t the most appealing option.

                                “It was pretty simple,” Little said. “I thought about it like I was here 10 years of my career, and it would be good to end my career here, but if I had to go to another team, I would be willing to do that.”

                                Ultimately, Little and the Rams struck a deal that would keep him in St. Louis and save the team upwards of $3.5 million in salary cap space, money the team would spend in the hours after the re-structure.

                                With that important piece of business out of the way, Little...
                                -03-27-2008, 04:45 PM
                              • r8rh8rmike
                                The Legacy Of Leonard Little
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                The Legacy of Leonard Little
                                Thursday, November 26, 2009

                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                Two years into his NFL career, Leonard Little had yet to make much of an impact on the game and found himself wondering when his opportunity would arrive.

                                Beyond that, Little was still unsure that even if the chance to prove himself came, that he could actually do it.

                                In his college career at Tennessee, Little had regularly dominated. He was one of the most intimidating forces in the college game and had made a habit of collecting sacks like Jay-Z collects No. 1 albums.

                                But the NFL was a different world and Little had yet to even show up on the radar.

                                So it was that then coach Mike Martz made the decision that the best way for Little to unlock his many skills was to get his behind kicked every day in practice.

                                “If you were going to get better, you were going to have to go against someone great,” Little said. “I was going against the best every single day in training camp. He told me if I was going to be an impact player in this league, I have to practice against the best and Orlando Pace was the best.”

                                Practice after practice, repetition after repetition, all world left tackle Pace utterly destroyed Little. Every move Little made was turned away, every spin move stonewalled.

                                Eventually, Little had a breakthrough. After hundreds, perhaps thousands of opportunities, Little finally began to solve Pace or at least battle him to a draw.

                                “He was the best at the time and when I first went against him it was intimidating because he was a great player,” Little said. “He would get the best of me and I’d keep battling and then beat him sometimes. He would beat me. It went back and forth. But I think that was the first time I realized I could play in this league.”

                                Twelve years into his career, there’s nobody who can question that Little can indeed play in the NFL as he has become one of the league’s premiere pass rushers and the greatest defensive force in St. Louis Rams history.

                                THE ORIGINAL ‘TWEENER

                                When the Rams used the 65th overall choice, in the third round of the 1998 NFL Draft on Little, they knew they were getting an extremely productive college player.

                                For a player with Little’s resume to last until the third round would normally be a bit of a surprise. But for as impressive as his statistics were, the stat that held Little back the most was the fact that he was a 236-pound defensive end/linebacker.
                                Before the dawn of the 3-4 defense in which teams can regularly find ways to get pass rush specialists on the field as an outside linebacker, there was Little.

                                In fact, Little was one of a number of players first associated with the dreaded “’Tweener” label.

                                The Rams decided to roll the dice...
                                -11-26-2009, 07:16 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                Little Embracing Leadership Role
                                by RamWraith
                                Wednesday, November 22, 2006

                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                While Leonard Little was leading the Rams’ defense and continuing in his role as the team's top pass rusher last season, it wasn’t easy to see that Little simply wasn’t enjoying himself on the football field as he usually does.

                                By his own account, Little wasn’t the same player or person last season as he had been in almost every other year. And it wasn’t even close. At 32, having gone through more in a five-year period than many endure in a lifetime, Little had to learn to handle pain in his foot and, more difficult, his heart.

                                “Last year, my brother passed away and that really stuck with me throughout last season and I didn’t know how to come back,” Little said. “This year, I learned to deal with it and I am just going out trying to have fun. For me, I’m 32 years old and I just try to go out there and seize the moment and have fun while I’m out there playing.”

                                Not only is Little having fun on the field and seizing the moment, he has done so much that he could finish his career in St. Louis. Little signed a three-year deal with the team this week; a contract he says will likely be his last.

                                Last season was a difficult one for Little. Plagued by injuries, including an ankle and heel issue that slowed him, and forced to deal with the death of his brother Jermaine, Little struggled to find the bounce in his step that had made him one of the league’s most feared pass rushers.

                                Little missed a pair of games after finding out about the shooting death of his brother before returning to the field with a heavy heart. With the Rams struggling, particularly on defense, Little couldn’t find a way to play with the passion and enthusiasm that had been motivating factors behind his immense success.

                                “Last year, it was hard for me to cope with it because he was younger than me and we grew up tight,” Little said. “We were a close knit family. Last year, I was trying to cope with it and now I just deal with it.”

                                Despite the extraneous factors working against him, he still led the Rams with 9.5 sacks. But, after a hot start, Little hit a lull in the middle of the season and didn’t hit his stride again until the end. His sack total was the second-lowest of his career since a huge 2001 when he had a career-high 14.5 sacks despite missing three games.

                                In the offseason, Little’s surroundings changed once again. St. Louis hired a new coaching staff and brought in plenty of new pieces to surround the star defensive end. All of that, though was assuming Little could be a centerpiece.

                                Little had ankle surgery that shaved away some bone chips in the offseason and went through a strenuous rehabilitation and recovery period that had him hobbled as recently as training camp.

                                In addition, the Rams brought in defensive tackle La’Roi Glover...
                                -11-22-2006, 02:48 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                Grieving Leonard Little says he's ready to resume playing
                                by RamWraith
                                By Jim Thomas
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                Friday, Nov. 11 2005

                                The shooting death of his brother Jermaine on Oct. 17 hit Leonard Little hard.
                                On Friday, it was clear that 3 1/2 weeks is not nearly enough time to ease the

                                Twice on Friday, Little was asked questions related to the death of his
                                brother. Both times, he couldn't speak. Simply couldn't speak. Instead, he
                                stood silently for several seconds in front of his locker at Rams Park, eyes
                                welling up, until the next question from reporters broke the silence.

                                "It's good to be back around the fellas," Little said. "The last few weeks, the
                                fellas have been giving me calls, giving me updates on how everything was
                                going. So it's nice to be back around these guys and playing."

                                After missing the past two games to be with his family, Little returns to the
                                starting lineup at defensive end Sunday in Seattle.

                                Despite concerns about weight loss during his absence, Little said: "I'm fine.
                                I'm back up to my playing weight. We had last week off (for the bye week). I
                                was back here lifting weights and working out. So I'm back to my playing

                                Despite missing games and practice for two weeks, Little feels he'll be able to
                                play a lot against the Seahawks.

                                "We've got a system where if I get tired, I come out anyway," Little said.
                                "Coach (Bill) Kollar, I'm pretty sure he's conscious of that. So if I get tired
                                or anything, I can come out and take myself out of the game."

                                Kollar is the Rams' defensive line coach.

                                "The only thing I can do is go out there and try to do my best, and try to
                                bring the same thing I brought to this team before," Little said.

                                Which is a lot, as a pass rusher and run defender.

                                "He's arguably our best defensive player," said linebacker Trev Faulk, whose
                                locker is next to Little's. "He's one of the best defensive players in the
                                league. ... So it's a huge, huge lift - just his presence being out there."

                                Little kept up with the team as best as he could while home in Asheville, N.C.,
                                with his family. The Rams' games weren't televised in Asheville, so Little used
                                an information feature on his cellphone to track the team.

                                "I would get on my cellphone and 'refresh' every play," Little said. "That's
                                the only thing I could do. So when something happened, and it came up on my
                                cellphone, I would get happy or get mad. ... I'm glad modern technology has
                                come that far where I can track a game on my cellphone."

                                Even after returning to St. Louis in the bye week, Little made a return trip to
                                -11-12-2005, 11:06 AM
                              • RamsFan16
                                I typed up Leonard Littles ESPN article. Here it is!
                                by RamsFan16
                                Courtesy of ESPN The Magazine

                                Two-Man Street
                                A Death in the family has Leonard Little trying to make sense of his life. Again
                                By Seth Wickersham

                                Tonights honoree is hiding behind a tree. He stands in the chill fall darkness in his best suit.--a beautiful brown suit, a rich man's suit-- atop a hill that eases down to a high school football field. Some of the 3,000 people in the stands are here to watch his No.30 be retired at halftime soon to wach there Asheville (N.C.) High Cougars whip the North Buncombe Black Hawks. The honoree visited with the Cougars before they burst onto the field, telling them about his own life at Asheville, now 12 years gone, about how they could cherish their high school years, about the value of innocence.

                                Tonights honoree isn't innocent anymore. Each morning and night, he begs and prays for forgiveness. And the forgiveness he seeks has him tucked behind a blue spruce, watching, waiting, wondering. Scared to death.

                                HE WAS quiet, at first, because he was in shock. It was Oct. 20, 1998. Leonrad Litte was in Harriman, Tenn., at the home of his mother, Wanda, in her windowless basement, the TV sitting cold. It wasn't clear who he was now, not after what happened the night before. He wasn't the boy nicknamed Head, the locla star who had overcome poverty and an absentee dad and the temptation of easy street money. He wasn't the linebacker who, with Peyton Manning, co-captained the Volunteers and then earned a special-teams spot with the St. LOuis Rams. Now he was something ugly. He spent a few days in that basement before someone knocked at the door, a man in his 40s with sandy hair and a warm smile.

                                John Berble's arrival was a suprise. They'd met at Tennessee years earlier, and Berble was a psychologist and finincial adviser for several former Vols. Everyone around Knoxville knew him as Dr. John, but Little hadn't talked to him in months. They went upstairs to the family oom, and Dr. John asked, "What Happened?"

                                What happened was this: Little showed up at the Adam's Mark hotel in downtown St. Louis for a suprise party--his. It was Oct. 19, his 24th birthday. Over the next four hours he drank until his blood alchohol level hit .19, nearly twice the legal limit. THen at 10:45 p.m. he hopped into his new Navigator, ran a red light at Memorial and Market and broadsideda blue Thunderbird. The driver, 47-year-old Susan Gutweiler, was headed to pick up her 15-yea-old so, Michael, at a Rob Zombie concert.

                                Little looked up at Dr. John, his stare empty, his voice low and flat, and said, "Someone died."

                                LEONARD LITTLE knows death. It's not that he's morbid or scary or deranged. In fact, he's quiet and shy and sincere, with long, baleen eyelashes that shadow a face hardened by the fallout of disgrace.

                                But Little knows about forgiveness, too. He forives those in St. Louis who boo him and the...
                                -02-19-2006, 11:56 AM