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    Giants | Warner Would Prefer N.Y. - from
    Fri, 28 May 2004 09:11:06 -0700

    Paul Dottino, of the Bergen Record, reports a source close to St. Louis Rams QB Kurt Warner said he would prefer to play for the New York Giants, who have told him he could compete for a starting job this year.

    Rams | Warner Meeting With Other Teams - from
    Fri, 28 May 2004 08:55:05 -0700

    Paul Dottino, of the Bergen Record, reports St. Louis Rams QB Kurt Warner reportedly has met with other teams since visiting the New York Giants on Tuesday, May 11. "There's a lot going on with him right now," agent Mark Bartelstein told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Bartelstein declined to be specific, but claimed Warner has gone on more interviews with other NFL teams.

  • #2
    Re: Warner would prefer NY

    Let him go, Thank you Kurt for your services and good luck with your future.


    • #3
      Re: Warner would prefer NY

      It looks to be the only team where he'd have a legitimate chance of starting, so I'm not surprised NY is his first choice.


      • #4
        Re: Warner would prefer NY

        I'm happy for him, and I hope he takes that starting job from that wuss Eli Manning (assuming he signs with the New York football Giants).


        • #5
          Re: Warner would prefer NY

          Why would you call Manning a wuss?


          • #6
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            He just comes off to me as the whiny, wuss type. No harm intended.


            • #7
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              I agree about Manning. I don't think he's a wuss on the field, but his actions on draft day sure didn't win him any brownie points with me. I agree with the sentiment shared by most of the players that were asked on NFL Total Access. Paraphrasing: It's a privelage to play in this league. You should be thankful for being drafted and if you're "all that" then you should shut up, go where you were drafted and make that team better."

              Although they were good athletes I never liked John Elway or Jeff George either. I think it's chicken (bleep) to put yourself above every other player that came before you. No one's that good. If you go to a team that, after you've played there for a couple years, doesn't make an effort to win then you sign a contract somewhere else. If I was a guy like Eli, holding all the cards so to speak, all I would need to do is sign a 2 or 3 year deal with the team that drafted me. Even without saying so, that would illustrate to the team that I would not be sticking around if things didn't improve. Then, if there's been no commitment to improving I could sign with the team of my choice as a free agent. What's so hard about that?

              I know, I know, it's not just about where you play, but about endorsements and crap like that. I agree though, but I don't think it's necessary to be in the largest market to make money with endorsements. Look at Vick or Favre. If you're a stud, the endorsements will come whether you're in Green Bay or New York.

              Going by his actions, it looks to me like Eli is very unsure about himself. He doesn't think he's good enough to lead a team out of mediocrity in San Diego and he's afraid of losing money in endorsements by not being in a major market. Very "wuss-like" if you ask me. Not to mention he's been riding the coat tails of Peyton's success for leverage. He claims to want "to be his own MANning" yet allows his daddy and big brother to interfere when things don't go his way. Wuss.


              • #8
                Re: Warner would prefer NY

                Good post, Mokler.


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                  Well, the latest reports filtering out of the Big Apple say Kurt Warner
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                  were crisp and mostly on target. But as New York Daily News staffer Ralph
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                  After struggling through his first mini-camp as a pro early last month,
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                  According to Vacchiano, "his command in the huddle was better and he had a
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                  his NFL MVP experience begins to factor into the equation.

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                  In fact, after reviewing some of the opinions being floated by those "in
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                  rest of the world as he is to me.

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                  In an article published Monday, Sports Illustrated insider Peter King
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                  he's doing."

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                  EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – Kurt Warner believes he can and will be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

                  QB Kurt Warner is set to leave the Giants and become a starter for another NFL team.
                  Eli Manning is the Giants’ starter. Therefore, the Giants’ Sunday night season finale against the Dallas Cowboys could well be Warner’s final game in a Giants uniform.

                  “Very possibly,” Warner said today. “I think everybody would foresee that being the case. Who knows what’s going to happen? You never know what the future has in store and what could transpire. But I think that’s everybody’s thought process right now.

                  “I want to be somewhere starting next year. They know it’s not here with the New York Giants. And they understand my point of view 100 percent.”

                  Warner, who was signed as a free agent on June 2 after a record-breaking six-year run with the St. Louis Rams, started the first nine games of the season. The Giants were 5-4 in those games and Warner completed 62.8 percent of his passes (174 of 277) for 2,054 yards, six touchdowns and four interceptions. Warner’s quarterback rating of 86.5 still ranks seventh in the NFC.

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                  Since it did, Warner has played just once in relief, an appearance in a hopelessly lost cause in the fourth quarter of a 23-point defeat in Baltimore, where he led the Giants to their only offensive touchdown.

                  Throughout what could have been a difficult or uncomfortable position, Warner has carried himself with dignity and grace. He has helped Manning whenever possible. Warner has publicly advocated that Coughlin stick with Manning, even when the youngster struggled, and it seemed he might have a shot to play again. And Warner has never hidden from the media. Today he entered the locker room and said, “Does anybody need me?”

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