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  • I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

    I am a Faulkite, bring on the Jacksonites!

    All kidding aside, i respect the fact that no one goes on forever. I posted a response to mr elacky a couple of threads ago and stated that the key to faulks future beyond this year is his health, how well jackson does, and probably most importantly, his willingness to take less cap money as his role decreases.

    That being said, I think the world of jacksons future and i loved the pick. However, before i am ready to think about making way for him as the annointed one to replace faulk, i would at least like to see him perform on the field in live nfl action (and not preseason either).

    As the year progresses and we see how faulks knees hold up, we can commence the debate regarding the future. For now, I dont see how any of us can contend that we are better off right now moving on from faulk and laying the entire load on jackson, who is himself coming off minor knee surgery.

    Remember, bulger did go 18-4 before someone decided to waive captain kurt, and then cap money was still a material consideration in the decision to make the move.

    Ramming speed to all

    general counsel and the Self Appointed Leader of the Faulkites

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    Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

    I am most definitely a Faulkite. Like Kurt Warner, I believe he deserves a shot to show what he does or does not have left in the tank. If he stays healthy, he will be a force. His super human performance at the end of the Carolina game told me all I need to know.

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    • #3
      Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

      I really do want to see what Faulk has left, but if I were a GM and a team offered me a first round pick for Faulk, I would have to strongly consider taking the pick.


      Now don't go calling me a Jacksonite just yet....LOL

      :redface:
      Curly ~ Horns

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      • #4
        Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

        Of course, Faulk and Jackson are not mutually exclusive.

        On the other hand, there are not too many 2 QB formations (although I heard that Spurrier was experimenting with one).

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        • #5
          Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

          I'd like to clarify to myself what the meaning of what an 'ite means.... I think it got skewed somewhere along the way... to me it does not mean that I question what the player has done for the rams, it simply implies that that they have outlived their usefulness and are questionable... the mere fact that faulk is an 'ite highlights that in effect, he has not justified his high salary for too long.... I can see this is going to become the next warnergate i.e. and one side is hanging on in the hope that a 30-something beat up running back will lead a somewhat depleated team to the sb, while the other is more realistic i.e. emotions have been put aside in the realisation that Faulk needs to go to release cap space for the better of the team.... I am definietly for the later (though Faulk is one of my all time favorite ram)... I don't beeive in 'waiting to see if he has got his magic back' type attitute in the salary cap era

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          • #6
            Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

            I'm excited about the potential that Jackson has and hope he lives up to his billing. I do believe Faulk still has plenty left in the tank and if healthy will contribute to the team. He will be a positive influence for the young guys.
            Faulk's football knowledge is a great attribute. I personally think he should be the offensive captian. But that's JMO! :king:
            JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS
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            "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
            Adm. William "Bull" Halsey

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            • #7
              Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

              I'm ready for Jackson. I want to see what he is going to be bring to the table. What really erks me the though is why Martz hasn't and will not go to a 2 back set. We have had the talent to do that. I could see the Wishbone with Faulk/Canidate, Faulk/Gordan or Faulk/Jackson. Talk about saving the legs of Faulk. You also have the recieving threat out of the backfield, best of both worlds. Ah hell, what do I know ;-)

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              • #8
                Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

                I was wondering Ram W....How do you see Candidate reappearing in to the mix?

                GO RAMMS!!!!!!!!!! :disappoin

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                • #9
                  Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

                  I was talking past tense with him, and what could have been over the years :-(

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                  • #10
                    Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

                    Mr. ElAcky, I am not suggesting blind faith here and i agree with you that in the cap era, the past is the past. However, cutting faulk now doesnt help anything since there is nothing to do with the money you would save (ie there arent players to spend it on at this point), even if his salary is currently higher than his production, may indeed be the case.

                    My point is that the issue will come up next year once we see if jackson can really produce at the nfl level and IF faulk will take a pay cut. I am not disagreeing that at $7 million plus dollars in 2005 if jackson shows he can play at the nfl level this year there wont be a decision to make. However, based on what faulk has said in interviews, IF he was willing to take less money, i dont see the rush to get rid of him.

                    contribution has to equal cap dollars to be successful. Until you know what the cap dollars will be and how healthy he is, its very hard to judge.

                    general counsel

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                    • #11
                      Re: I hereby christen myself as a Faulkite!

                      Faulk's value extends beyond statistics. He has more off-the-field, in-the-locker-room, sage wisdom value than anyone on the team except maybe Aeneas and Ike. Hard to put a price tag on that.
                      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                      • RamWraith
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                        Here come the Rams. And a pair of thank you's to Stephen of North Vancouver, B.C., and Bart of Washington. Steve asks -- why was Mike Martz willing to do a quick switch from Warner to Bulger, but he's dragging out the Marshall Faulk to Steven Jackson thing? Bart wants to know what will be next year's approach, if Jackson really replaces Faulk? First of all, Martz dragged out the Warner-Bulger thing, too. Warner got his job back as soon as he supposedly got over the broken finger two years ago. Last season, going into the Giants opener, Martz told Fox's Pam Oliver, on camera, than Warner was his quarterback to the bitter end, come hell or high water. The high water arrived next week and lasted all season. Running back is a different position. You can alternate them, or use them together, but you can't do that with QBs. Jackson might be a slight improvement in the running game, but no back was the pass-catching threat Faulk was. Repeat, was. He dropped a couple against Seattle, remember? They won't be able to put Jackson in the slot and run him downfield as effectively as they did with Faulk. But who says Marshall will be gone? Maybe he'll be a third down passing-situations back.



                        My question is - will Marshall's pride allow him to be a backup type like a third down back? Judging from his interview statements, he's as much in denial as Warner was, he's simply had less attention focused on him because he's not a QB and he doesn't have a call-in show junkie wife.
                        -10-23-2004, 01:28 PM
                      • Nick
                        Prisco: Faulk out of shape and unwanted?
                        by Nick
                        From Pete Prisco
                        http://cbs.sportsline.com/print/nfl/story/9474135/rss

                        Why is Marshall Faulk still with the Rams? That's an interesting question when you consider he hasn't taken part in the team's offseason program and word is he's once again a little pudgy. OK, chunky is more like it. Faulk was a pet of previous coach Mike Martz, which is why he was allowed to get away with not being in the best shape. The joke was that Faulk used to play golf to get into shape in the offseason. New coach Scott Linehan has made it clear that Steven Jackson will be the team's top running back. Word is some coaches and others in the organization wouldn't mind too much of Faulk simply decided to retire. But after all he has done for the organization, how can it simply just let him go? That could be a public relations disaster for the new staff. Still, don't expect Faulk to see much action. His time has come and gone in St. Louis. You would think he'd realize that and do something about it, especially from a conditioning standpoint. There are a lot of backs who take an active role in getting into shape when they get older. Faulk should be doing more of that and less golf if he's truly serious about playing. If the Rams had guts, they'd let him walk. Now that Martz is out the door, there's no reason not to do so.
                        -06-01-2006, 08:32 PM
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                        I think everyone should stop with their BS story about Faulk not wantin to play more.
                        by Guest
                        Faulk may have went to management and told them it was time to make a change because he is good hearted and they chose a RB with their first over all pick.
                        How many players anywhere in the NFL would go to management and tell them to play some one else ahead of them none is the answer because they are all after the dollar but not Faulk he wants to see the kid get a chance and succeed. But Faulk still has a lot of game left in him and if Jackson ever went down with an injury and they had to play Faulk you would see that I can honestly say Jackson has helped contribute to our losing season with his no gain runs and getting two QB's blown up by bad blocking both Bulger and Martin were the victims of his poor blocking.

                        Faulk has a lot of game left and this was the first off-season in a long time he did not have to have surgery. He is as healthy and as good as he has been in a long time. I guarantee you if I had to win a game I would take Faulk over Jackson as my running back. Once Faulk saw they drafted a RB he knew he did not have a lot of years left and he knew they had to play the #1 RB in the draft pretty quickly and that is why I believe he said they should play him. Because how would people feel if Faulk played good and we did not start Jackson for another 4 years they would all be wondering why we spent such a high pick on someone that sets on the bench.


                        Nick Faulk did it for the team and Jackson no one else in the NFL would have done what he did. Faulk may have thought at the time that Jackson might be able to handle the starting job and knowing that they selected him so high they would have to play him soon. Faulk is today better then Jackson. He is as healthy as he has ever been.
                        -12-11-2005, 09:25 PM
                      • RamWraith
                        Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement
                        by RamWraith
                        By Brian Burwell / PD

                        Coach Mike Martz says Faulk's sore knees need some rest. I asked Faulk how much rest he thinks he'll take. 'That depends on what you want to do,' he said, speaking generally, as if he were talking about someone else. 'If this is your last season, then what you do is rush back, deal with the pain and whatever happens happens and you retire at the end of the season. But if you've decided that you want to play at least one more year, and you're comfortable and accept a specific limited role, than you play it smart. You take your time, get healthy and come back when it's feeling right.'

                        Faulk sounded like a man who was more interested in returning for one more scaled-back run next season. He also sounded quite comfortable with this changing of the guard.

                        As we talked, Faulk was nearly trampled as the media moved in to circle and interview quarterback Chris Chandler. Faulk slipped on his black leather jacket, pulled his wool knit cap down snuggly over his head, flipped a backpack over his shoulder and nimbly tried to get out of the way.

                        As he attempted to make a quick getaway, a few more reporters converged on him.

                        'Can we ask you a few questions, Marshall?' someone asked.

                        'Awww, nah,' he whispered, feigning modesty. 'Why do you want to talk to me?'

                        Faulk is not quite ready to say goodbye to his athletic life just yet. But he is perceptive enough to know that this wasn't his moment. This was not his time. Faulk could see that big fellow over there on the other side of the room with the flowing dreadlocks and youthful legs was finishing up his postgame radio interview. Faulk knew Jackson was about to march back to his locker stall.

                        Faulk knows a thing or two about the paradox of the past and the future never occupying the same space. So the living legend nearing the end of his 11-year Hall of Fame run slipped quietly out the back locker-room door. A few moments later, the future - young Mr. Jackson - slipped seamlessly into his space.
                        -12-06-2004, 01:44 PM
                      • general counsel
                        More on the faulk decision
                        by general counsel
                        I cant get over faulk being on the bench with the game on the line in favor of arlen harris. I demand an explanation for vitt and i want to know how it makes any sense at all. It appears to be the single dumbest coaching decision i have ever seen in the history of watching football. We are not talking about faulk vs. jackson here, we are talking about faulk vs. arlen harris, a back that has not been on the field for anything other than special teams in weeks.

                        Faulk had his helmet on indicating to me he was clearly ready to go. He was having a very productive game. we were trying to win which is why vitt pulled fitz for martin, what in the world would lead to this kind of decision.

                        This is a noteworthy story and i will tell you why. Is faulk coming back next year? That depends on a couple of things, first and foremost, does he want to. I expect faulk to make a decision after we get a new coach and faulk talks to the coach to see what his role will be. Why should he come back to get one touch a game or, in the event jackson is out, to get benched with the game on the line.

                        Harris actually made a nice blitz pickup but that is 100% beside the point.

                        Does anyone believe for even one second that if martz was coaching faulk would have been out of the game in that situation.

                        ramming speed to all

                        general counsel
                        -12-19-2005, 07:43 AM
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