No announcement yet.

[PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

    Rams Q-and-A: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles
    Wednesday, Sep. 20 2006

    Former Rams quarterback Kurt Warner can relate to Marc Bulger’s early-season struggles.

    After leaving St. Louis, Warner had to adjust to new systems in New York and Arizona. So he understands the transition Bulger must make to new Rams coach Scott Linehan and his offensive system.

    Warner offered these assessments of the Rams during his conference call with the St. Louis media:

    On the challenge of learning a new system:

    “It is always difficult to learn a new system and really learn the ins and outs of it. It’s one thing to kind of know what you are supposed to do, but it’s another thing to get to the point where it is second nature where you can react and respond and see what’s going on and be to the point where you just play football -– especially when the philosophy is so much different than what they experienced before.

    “Sometimes it takes a full season. I remember when I was in New York, that whole season I never really felt 100 percent comfortable with what were doing and really felt like I could play football in a comfortable type fashion. It was always kind of a struggle, always second-guessing and thinking about things more than I had to before. It makes you play the game differently and sometimes it is frustrating.”

    On the Rams’ struggle to score points:

    “When you look at the playmakers they’ve got, the talent they’ve got on the offensive side of the ball . . . it’s always interesting when a team like that can’t score, but we’re very familiar with that. We’ve had a lot of talent on offense last year, too, and moved the ball, just had trouble putting the ball in the end zone. You understand how much more difficult it gets down in the red zone.

    “Just with my limited understanding of their offense, they are a ball-control offense where they take the ball down . . . they are going to have a lot of opportunities, probably within the 20-yard line, maybe inside the 10-yard line. But the thing that is hard about it, you come to understand when you’re trying to throw the ball inside the 10-yard line, it gets a lot more difficult. In the old offense, you would get a couple touchdowns a game on 30-, 35-yard pass plays or run plays.

    “That’s what we experienced last year. We moved the ball between the 20s, but we never got a lot of big touchdowns so we always had our backs against the wall on short fields trying to spread teams out and throw the ball, which makes it very, very difficult. That’s what happens when you have a ball-control-type offense.”

    On whether he has talked with Bulger about his situation:

    “We actually talk quite a bit. I actually talked to him just last week. He did tell me he is working through it. It is a work in progress, but he is working to get to that point where it is second nature to him. After being where he was with Mike (Martz) and that type of philosophy, that type of offense, this is definitely an adjustment, which is no surprise to anybody. He wants to get to the point where he can play the way Marc Bulger plays and not have to think and second-guess and worry about certain things and play with the talents and gifts that he’s got. That is what he is working through now.

    “It is a different philosophy. He said he likes the philosophy. He likes the fact they are trying to run the ball and it’s not all the pressure on him to throw 50 times a game. He is still looking to get into that comfort zone where he thinks he can play at the level he is capable of.”

    On gaining the responsibility to call audibles on the line of scrimmage:

    “I think it is a very difficult (transition). When I played in St. Louis, and not doing it, you kind of build a confidence that it doesn’t matter what is going on on the field, but you can see it and you can respond to it. When it is throwing 'hot' or 'sight adjust' or beating it with a throw, whatever it might be, you build up a confidence there. And then when you get to the point when that stops and you’re asked to get the team into the perfect play, you start second-guessing yourself, you start thinking about it more.

    “When you are in an audible system, you’re watching the safeties, you’re trying to get any kind of a key to say, hey, I need to get out of this play. You’re continually on your heels, thinking OK, what are they going to do? How can I get us into the best play instead of saying forget it, we’re going to run this play and make it work. It is a transition. We do more of it here. It is frustrating, because sometimes defense doesn’t show you anything until the snap of the ball. But as soon as the snap of the ball, they rotate a certain way, you’re running a play, you’re telling yourself, man, I should have got out of that, I should have gotten into something else, this isn’t a good play. It can be a frustrating situation.”

    On what he thinks of the new Rams defense:

    “I think they are very athletic, adding (Will) Witherspoon, adding La’Roi (Glover) in there. Corey Chavous, plus the guys they have, Leonard Little, those guys. They are very athletic. We match up well against them, but I think they are going to do some different things, things that we haven’t seen, things they didn’t do in the past. That’s something we’re gong to have to continue to study and figure out a way to attack it. They are a very aggressive, attacking defense, and we just have to make sure we can get some big plays into that aggressiveness and not allow them to create big plays on their side.”

  • #2
    Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

    well Kurt would know, he has had to deal with new offenses the past few years.


    • #3
      Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

      I think Warner gives us a pretty good account of the difficulties of learning a new offense that can create the indecision and second guessing that Bulger seems to be going through on each play. Add to that all of the defensive pressure and sacks he's had to endure. If anyone could relate it would be Kurt.

      I don't think there is any question that it is going to take time to get through this. The mantra of this season is definitely patience as has been spoken by so many on this matter. Just remember...this too shall pass!

      Go Rams!!! :r


      • #4
        Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

        well that makes it all OK then

        King Kurt has spoken and Rams Nation goes calm ;)

        Keeping the Rams Nation Talking


        • #5
          Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

          Originally posted by RamDez View Post
          well that makes it all OK then

          King Kurt has spoken and Rams Nation goes calm ;)
          I feel better.


          • #6
            Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

            I still say there is a man which can be respected and trusted.

            The Rams' offense will, hopefully?, start to grasp and make work Linehan's system. I hope it is sooner rather than later and we can start high fiving each other and chattering like excited schoolgirls again instead of all this doom-and-gloom and let's bury our heads in the sand mentality which seems to pervade many posts now.


            GO RAMS!!

            GO RAMS!!


            • #7
              Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

              Maybe Kurt can come finish up as a Ram once he's done with the Tards.

              Seems like he and Marc are still buds.


              • #8
                Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

                Originally posted by Rambos View Post
                Seems like he and Marc are still buds.
                Which is incredibly interesting considering intensity and antagonism of the Warner/Bulger debates, which still rage on at some communities. Thankfully, we're not one of them, as we can appreciate both players.


                • #9
                  Re: [PD]: Warner can relate to Bulger's struggles

                  Which is incredibly interesting considering intensity and antagonism of the Warner/Bulger debates, which still rage on at some communities.
                  Apparently these two men don't hang out in those communities. ;)

                  On gaining the responsibility to call audibles on the line of scrimmage:

                  “I think it is a very difficult (transition).
                  I get the feeling several fans assumed the audible system of Linehan would be easier to handle than the non-audible system of Martz. It appears that feeling would be wrong.
                  The more things change, the more they stay the same.


                  Related Topics


                  • Yodude
                    Rich Eisen Interviews Warner....
                    by Yodude
                    Warner getting comfortable with Giants

                    Kurt Warner's career seemed to be in jeopardy after Marc Bulger excelled during the 2003 season for St. Louis. But the Giants came calling, and Warner is experiencing a revival. Warner spoke to NFL Total Access host Rich Eisen about the Giants' surprising start, his jelling with New York's offense and tutoring Eli Manning. NFL Total Access airs Monday through Saturday at 7 p.m. ET (aired Oct. 21, 2004).

                    Rich Eisen: Now let's fire up the New York Giants cam for the man right there under center. Kurt Warner, two-time MVP, joining us. How are you doing there, Kurt?

                    Warner: Doing great, Rich. How are you doing?

                    Eisen: I'm great. Before we get started, I got to check on my hometown of New York City to see how everybody's doing in the wake of the Yankee collapse. Is everybody OK there?

                    Warner: Well, I think there's a lot of people struggling today. It might have been a national holiday here in New York, trying to get over that one. Hopefully we will turn them on to Giants football instead.

                    Eisen: Well, I was going to say that, because now they can totally turn their mindset to New York football, not just even the Giants, where it's a 9-1 record; 4-1 for you guys, for the Giants. Would you say that even you are surprised at where you are coming out of this bye week?

                    Warner: Yeah, I would say a little bit. I think it would be hard to say that there was a lot of people around here that expected us to be at 4-1 going into the bye. With the games that we've had on the road, the teams that we've played, some of the things that happened in preseason -- yeah, I think everybody around here is excited about where we're at, and knowing that we can get a lot better. We can play a lot better. But to be sitting at 4-1 and to be able to find ways to win like we have up to this point, I think people around here are excited.

                    Eisen: Yeah, the four wins matches the entire season total from last year. Kurt, when would you say things clicked most, or began to click?

                    Warner: Well I think the whole preseason was a growing process for all of us. Learning the new system, getting familiar with the new coaches and how they wanted to go about doing things. So I think every week we have gotten a little bit better. I think we saw a lot of positive things in our first game against Philadelphia, even though we didn't win that game. I think a lot of positives came out of that. We were able to build on that every week and I think every week we have gotten better. I think the point is we haven't reached our full potential yet. We haven't played anywhere close to the way we can play. That's the exciting thing -- is that we are 4-1 but everybody in that locker room knows we can be so much better.

                    Eisen: Right. Jeremy Shockey has two of your three touchdown catches, basically, 22...
                    -10-22-2004, 04:53 PM
                  • RamWraith
                    Players and Coaches Quotes from Sept. 15
                    by RamWraith
                    Thursday, September 15, 2005

                    Head Coach Mike Martz

                    (On whether CB Chris Johnson will be ready after a rough opening game)
                    “Yeah. He just got here. We just have to work with him a little bit. If we didn’t feel confident with Chris [Johnson], obviously we wouldn’t leave him out there, which we are. We’re going to stay with him.”

                    (On what he likes about Chris Johnson)
                    “He’s had to make a transition in different philosophies between football teams and how we do things. There’s a learning curve for him that has had to be sped up for him. I like his competitiveness, and of course his speed and athleticism is really outstanding. His issues haven’t been any of those things. He was injured. They just couldn’t wait for him. They had already replaced him. He fits in for us real well. He has a lot to bring to the table for us. He’s a veteran who hasn’t played a lot, who has great ability.”

                    (On how WRs Kevin Curtis and Shaun McDonald’s roles benefit the offense)
                    “Both of these guys can start just about anywhere. We’re fortunate, in that respect, to have those kinds of receivers. Those guys are really playing at a high level. I’m very pleased with them. The biggest issue would be the emergence of the running game and the offensive line. We just have to play better everywhere. We just didn’t play well last week, but they are a terrific, terrific addition to what we do offensively.”

                    (On whether he has any secrets on fighting the heat gained while coaching at Arizona State)
                    “No. Not really. I was there for 10 years, and I promise you it was a lot worse here last week than it ever was down there when it was 113 [degrees] during the day. My challenge to them is to come back when it’s 98 [degrees] in this humidity. If you want to make it a distraction, you can. It is what it is. It’s still 98 [degrees] on that other sideline. It just is. What we are concerned about is when we practiced in it, it beat us down. [At the] beginning of the year we really played particularly well because we worn down by the heat. Team would come in fresh and the heat didn’t seem to bother them. It’s kind of an odd thing.”

                    (On how Arizona’s changes to their defensive front complicate the Rams’ offensive approach)
                    “It’s what we saw in the opener. We knew what they were doing. I’m sure they will have something specific for us. They have had the offseason to prepare. We are in a little bit of a different situation, and I think we should be able to adjust and focus in on what we are trying to accomplish. Every week you play, there is a potential of doing that, and everybody does that to you.”

                    (On if there is an advantage to knowing how QB Kurt Warner plays)
                    “I don’t think so. That could be a distraction, because you start to guess, oh he’s about to do this, and it never works out that way. The best thing to do is...
                    -09-17-2005, 06:30 AM
                  • RamWraith
                    Setting the Standard
                    by RamWraith
                    Wednesday, September 14, 2005

                    By Nick Wagoner
                    Senior Writer

                    By the time Kurt Warner’s time as the starting quarterback for the Rams was done, he had set the bar so high for the next person in line that it would have taken the world’s largest ladder to reach.

                    Marc Bulger was the unfortunate next person in line charged with the task of following in the footsteps of the man who, from a statistical standpoint, had the single greatest three-year run of any quarterback ever to play in the NFL.

                    But Bulger wasn’t the only one who was being asked to live up to those expectations. It was easy to forget that the reason Warner’s time in St. Louis was done was because he too could no longer reach the standard he had set.

                    To this day, Bulger still hears criticism with every interception, every fumble and every loss. And so does Warner.

                    “It’s the same way in my situation that I know Marc’s dealing with,” Warner said. “You have that standard whether it was me ahead of him or even in my situation that every year every time you step on the football field they expect you to perform at that type of level. It’s hard to do. It was a great run that we had. We had everything going, we had everything clicking, we were together for a long period and it was one of those special, special periods.”

                    Warner’s time with the Rams included a pair of Super Bowl appearances with one championship and two MVPs mixed in. Fair or not, he set the bar that high for himself and anyone who would play the position for St. Louis in the coming years.

                    So while Warner does feel for Bulger’s situation, he doesn’t feel too bad for the quarterback who was good enough to win the job and has proven to be an excellent quarterback in his own right.

                    “Yea, I feel for him, but at the same time I don’t feel too bad for him,” Warner said. “The guy has done nothing but had success in the league. You can’t get caught up with what the media says or what the fans want, the guy has played good football and that’s why he is the starting quarterback there, that’s why he has been to the Pro Bowl. He is an excellent quarterback and has proven it year in, year out. I don’t look at it like he hasn’t lived up to the standard. I think he has played very good football and played very well.”

                    Bulger is the first to say that a big reason for his success since taking over as the starter can be directly attributed to Warner. Although coach Mike Martz’s ability to develop and recognize quarterback talent is ultimately the main reason for the success of both players, Warner never wavered in his support of Bulger, even when the two were in direct competition for the job.

                    Because of Warner’s approach to helping Bulger understand the nuances of the offense and adjusting to the speed...
                    -09-15-2005, 01:10 PM
                  • RamWraith
                    Coach / players--Sept. 20
                    by RamWraith
                    Head Coach Scott Linehan
                    September 20

                    (Opening Statement and Injury Report) “Pisa’s (Tinoisamoa) elbow is getting better. He’s still going to be listed as questionable. He worked some things on a limited basis in a red jersey on the field. We’re obviously keeping Orlando (Pace) out. He’s doubtful at this point. He didn’t get any practice today. We’ll evaluate him and due a psych test on him tomorrow and make the evaluation then, exactly whether he’ll be ready for this weekend.”

                    (On T Orlando Pace’s recovery) “I asked him how he felt and he said he felt better. He’s feeling better everyday. I think he’s still feeling it a little bit. That’s got to be a good thing that he says he’s feeling better.”

                    (On not being surprised if LB Pisa Tinoisamoa is ready to play on Sunday) “That would be standard for Pisa. That’s just the way he thinks and that’s why he has a good chance of playing this weekend.”

                    (On players taking time off to recover from injury) “It helps, but I prefer that guys practice. If he can get something done Friday, we won’t do anything tomorrow. If he could get something done Friday, that would make us feel better. I’m more concerned with the fact that he is 100 percent. The plan is secondary to making sure he’s okay.”

                    (On the idea of putting T Alex Barron on the left side of the offensive line) “That’s because he’s been on the right side here. We’ve had to move enough and we want to try to keep things as stable as we can with (Todd) Steussie at left (Tackle). Adam (Goldberg) has played a lot of guard. He started quite a few games at Minnesota last year at guard. That would be our contingency plan right now.”

                    (On Barron’s progression) “I think he’s playing pretty good. I think he’s doing the things you want to improve on from your first year to your second. His run-blocking is better. I think he’s a very good pass protector. When we have both him and Orlando (Pace) healthy I think that’s going to be very positive for us. He’s progressing very well. He’s made a lot of improvement from his rookie year.”

                    (On G Adam Goldberg’s performance) “I think he did fine. With very limited time here, I think he’s very familiar with a lot of the things we’re doing, terminology wise. He worked our offense two years ago and was basically working a new system. Just getting the reps up a little bit was some of it. Just like everybody, he had a couple of errors in the game, but he’s a good player and I’m glad we have him.”

                    (On determining Pace’s status) “I’m optimistic. They are guys that have played a lot. Those two guys on the left side have played a lot more football in the NFL than Richie (Incognito). Anytime you have to re-shuffle things it’s not easy, but these guys are pros and having a week to prepare will certainly give us a better chance to have more success.”

                    (On C Richie Incognito’s...
                    -09-21-2006, 04:30 AM
                  • Rambos
                    Rams Conference Calls
                    by Rambos
                    Wide Receiver Torry Holt

                    On Kurt Warner…
                    “I think it’s cool, you know I am definitely excited for him to get another opportunity to play football and be a starting quarterback in the National Football League. We had a lot of great memories with Kurt, and those types of things will flash back leading up to the game. But once we get started and ready to roll, we drop that, go out there and compete and go out and win.”

                    On what it was like in the beginning when no one expected anything from the Rams in '99…
                    “It was very exciting, at times it was overwhelming, for me I was a rookie so I thought that was the way the National Football League really was. Just the camaraderie that we had the unity that we had, and we had a team concept that everyone bought into. We went out there and aspired to play that way every single week. It was great. And then to put together strings of wins and more wins and more wins and playoff wins and to win the Super Bowl was very unique. It’s something that everyone that was on that particular team we’ll all enjoy.”

                    On if Warner still has fans in St. Louis...
                    “Absolutely. Kurt has a tremendous amount of fans here. They love Kurt. Not only Kurt Warner the football player but Kurt Warner the man. What he brought not only to this football organization but what he brought to this community. What he brought to this community was bar none. Not only here, they embraced him well in New York. It’s just the type of personality he has, the way he lives his life, how he cares about football, how he cares about his family and how he cares about people. I’m sure it’s the same way in Arizona. He’s a tough person not to like and not to love. I’m excited for him and I’m happy for him and his family and I wish him all the best.”

                    On his relationship with Kurt…
                    “I always had a good relationship with Kurt. We had a great work relationship. I never hung out at his house and he never hung out at my house. We may have had breakfast together. Those moments were cool. We laugh and joke with one another. So my relationship with Kurt was fine and I think it’s still fine. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him and how he was able to overcome the battles in the early part of his life and come to the National Football League and explode and do the things he did and led us to a Super Bowl win and a Super Bowl game. My respect for him is really high.”

                    On the loss to the ***** in Week 1…
                    “Things are still bubbly here. It’s week 2. That’s a game we felt we should have won. It was a divisional game. It hurts with Seattle losing and Arizona losing, it gave us an opportunity to be up one (game). San Francisco has that right now. But you have to credit San Francisco, they played well.
                    We didn’t play well at times. We didn’t make the great plays late to help us win that ball game. But I think it’s still positive around here. I think it’s up to...
                    -09-14-2005, 04:29 PM