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    My call with a former Rams player

    Interesting story that i think might entertain the group. I consumated a business transaction this week with a former rams player who has asked to me not to reveal his identity. As a result, I cant disclose who it is, but i can tell you this story that i think you will all find interesting.

    i asked him about deacon jones, the allegedly unblockable one himself. He told me that taking nothing away from deacon, who was a fantastic pass rusher, a lot of the legend as to his play as an all around defensive end is hype. Bottom line, the deacon never played the run and he lined up further outside than any defensive end in the league.

    What was the key to deacons success as a pure pass rusher? Merlin Olsen, who was apparantly so quick and strong that he was able to stop the run on one entire side of the defensive line without any help at all from deacon. This freed deacon to focus solely on getting after the passer.

    I would love some input from some of our clanram brothers that watched the team in detail in the mid to late 60's and into the very early 70's on this matter. I would love to see some video tape of the old fearsome foursome, but really all you can get is some highlights, none of the old games from the 60's are available to the best of my knowledge.

    Ramming speed to all

    general counsel
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    Re: My call with a former Rams player

    Ok, so I'm guessing it's Rosie Grier or Lamar Lundy?
    JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS
    :ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram:

    "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
    Adm. William "Bull" Halsey

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      Re: My call with a former Rams player

      Originally posted by general counsel
      I consumated a business transaction this week with a former rams player who has asked to me not to reveal his identity.
      I hope this "business" transaction wasn't with Darryl Henley.

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        Re: My call with a former Rams player

        I can assure you mr. bobblehead that the transaction was not consumated with the only currently known incarcerated Ram, Mr. Henley. Rumour has it that Mr. Henley is auditioning for a part in The Longest Yard, part 2.

        general counsel

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          Re: My call with a former Rams player

          I know that Wendel Tyler has a real estate business out in Palmdale (California).. I saw his adds in the yellow pages! (I realize he didn't play with these guys, but just some FYI).

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            general counsel
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