Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Stats say It All

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Stats say It All

    Looking foward to next week I did a little reasearch,
    Hassleback has 13 sacks in 4 games
    Bulger has 13 sacks in 5 games
    Edge: Rams
    Hassleback 6 TD's 7 INT's
    Bulger 7 TD's 0 INT's
    Edge: Rams

    The key thing that's stands out more than anything on Defense is our +12 turnover ratio to there -1

    A lot of people will say that Seattle is a Strong team, I don't concur. I think Seattle is an average team at best. Hassleback doesn't take care of the ball, and is careless with the ball, having more INT's than TD's. Also they have yet to get a solid running game established.

    As much as people wanna complain that we have trouble in the Red Zone, what I notice is the fact the Bulger takes care of the Ball. 5 games with no INT's is a franchise Record shared with Roman Gabriel, who was no slouch.

    Yes Seattle is coming off a bye, but, we are coming off a 3 game winning streak, and are also have homefield advantage this coming week. No we haven't blown away competition, but we have done what is neccesary to win.
    A lot of people are looking past us, and we lurking below, the radar. I expected us to have a 4-1 record at this point, and I expect us to win agianst Seattle especially at home. This is a must win game, becuase of the game we lost against the ******. We have to win, 1 to keep first place, and if also establish a tie breaker, in case of an even record with them at the end of the Season.

    I'm interested in seeing what the rest of you think.

  • #2
    Re: Stats say It All

    I like your optimism, but reality is that we haven't been playing good teams. The shesquawks will determine what type of team we are. We are barely winning thanks to what some might call luck. Warner's & Favre's fumbles were the deciding factors. We could easily be 1-4.
    LA RAMMER

    It's Jim not Chris
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Stats say It All

      great post love the info. Hasselback with no established running to date this season has been taking more chances down field. he has 2new receivers that he is getting acclimated to, so it takes time. This game once again will come down to wheter or not the rams can create turnovers and play great ball control offense...

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Stats say It All

        Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
        Hassleback has 13 sacks in 4 games
        I also think it's interesting to take a closer look as to how those sacks came about. Of the 13 sacks, ten of them came in the Lions and Bears games. All ten were from defensive linemen playing in a Tampa 2 scheme that emphasizes the line's ability to get pressure by themselves.

        That's important to note because the Rams have not done a good job generating consistent pressure from their front four. Not including today's game, the Rams have only generated 7 sacks in four games. Three of those sacks were from Leonard Little. The rest of the defensive line accounted for just 1.5 sacks of the seven.

        If the Rams can't get pressure on Hasselbeck with their front four, it's going to be a long game. Because in recent weeks, we've seen the Rams bring extra men only to have them either picked up, blocked out of the way, or just not get to the QB in time. Hasselbeck and his receivers will eat us alive if we bring extra heat but still can't pressure him. He may not statistically have had a good four-game start, but don't underestimate his talent when given time to throw.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Stats say It All

          Originally posted by Nick View Post
          I also think it's interesting to take a closer look as to how those sacks came about. Of the 13 sacks, ten of them came in the Lions and Bears games. All ten were from defensive linemen playing in a Tampa 2 scheme that emphasizes the line's ability to get pressure by themselves.

          That's important to note because the Rams have not done a good job generating consistent pressure from their front four. Not including today's game, the Rams have only generated 7 sacks in four games. Three of those sacks were from Leonard Little. The rest of the defensive line accounted for just 1.5 sacks of the seven.

          If the Rams can't get pressure on Hasselbeck with their front four, it's going to be a long game. Because in recent weeks, we've seen the Rams bring extra men only to have them either picked up, blocked out of the way, or just not get to the QB in time. Hasselbeck and his receivers will eat us alive if we bring extra heat but still can't pressure him. He may not statistically have had a good four-game start, but don't underestimate his talent when given time to throw.
          I'd have to agree with this. Looking at the Chicago game (Which, thanks to ESPN asia, I had a chance to on Thursday) in isolation would be a mistake. Chicago can get tremendous pressure out of their base D, forcing Hasselbeck to throw into a bigger crowd than the Rams would present him.

          Yes, the Seahawks would look to be struggling right now and we are playing at home, but I'd be a little cagey when asked to forecast a result here.

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Stats say It All

            You can definitely count on Haslett bring a lot of different Blitz packages on Hassleback to create the turnovers. When he's pressures Hassleback isn't the smartest QB, and tends to make mistakes. I failed to mention that he has a rating of 74.6 while Bulger has 94.6, and after this game I believe it will be 103.3. Part of the reason he had the year he had last year was, 1. the ability to establish the running game, and 2 the offensive line. The line hasn't been consistent, and I doubt that Alexander plays, or they allow him to play. They are not going to let him risk the season for 1 game.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Stats say It All

              You can definitely count on Haslett [to] bring a lot of different Blitz packages on Hassleback to create the turnovers. -- JJigga3000
              For sure. I think the Rams defense, injuries not withstanding, will want to be fully prepared for this game, perhaps more than any one game up to this point in the season. Get Matt out of his confort zone this coming Sunday; we didn't do a very good job at that today Vs. Favre until his very last play -- whew!

              I agree, it will be most interesting to see what the 'Stats' speak of after game 6!

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Stats say It All

                I dont aggree. Almost all of those stats came aganist the bears and the rams would be the same way if they didnt have SJ against the bears. And we havent faced a team the quality of the bears.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Stats say It All

                  Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                  When he's pressures Hassleback isn't the smartest QB, and tends to make mistakes.
                  I don't know, I think Hasselbeck is a very solid QB both in intelligence and ability. That said, if Alexander does not play, there will be an awful lot of weight on those shoulders and he'll be vulnerable.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Stats say It All

                    Originally posted by Nick View Post
                    I also think it's interesting to take a closer look as to how those sacks came about. Of the 13 sacks, ten of them came in the Lions and Bears games. All ten were from defensive linemen playing in a Tampa 2 scheme that emphasizes the line's ability to get pressure by themselves.

                    That's important to note because the Rams have not done a good job generating consistent pressure from their front four. Not including today's game, the Rams have only generated 7 sacks in four games. Three of those sacks were from Leonard Little. The rest of the defensive line accounted for just 1.5 sacks of the seven.

                    If the Rams can't get pressure on Hasselbeck with their front four, it's going to be a long game. Because in recent weeks, we've seen the Rams bring extra men only to have them either picked up, blocked out of the way, or just not get to the QB in time. Hasselbeck and his receivers will eat us alive if we bring extra heat but still can't pressure him. He may not statistically have had a good four-game start, but don't underestimate his talent when given time to throw.

                    Exactly and Favre's ability to sit and wait with little pressure in today's game is a perfect illustration of what it might be like to feel like the Giants when they played the c-chickens.
                    Socrates: Surf to live! and Live to Surf!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Stats say It All

                      I put little faith in stats even thought they are the only menas we have to compare players/teams with another.

                      Stats fail to reveal the quality of the opponent and injury factors as well as rivalry content and officiating errors.

                      Stats tend to be a tad more realistic further into the season after the teams being compared have played more common opponents, but in my book stats will rarely if ever tell the real story.

                      Nonetheless stats are all we have, so skew them to your advantage the best you can! lol

                      RnD

                      GO RAMS!!
                      RnD

                      GO RAMS!!

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Stats say It All

                        Originally posted by Alec22 View Post
                        I dont aggree. Almost all of those stats came aganist the bears and the rams would be the same way if they didnt have SJ against the bears. And we havent faced a team the quality of the bears.
                        Yes we have we faced the Bronco's. We beat a good team when we played them. Also SJ is a better back than SA. SA is one dimensional, and needs a great line to get the yardage he got last year. In fact last year the Hawks had the best tandem in the NFL.

                        What's funny to me is some you fans wanna believe the worst than the best. I don't get it. I could see if I had no basis for my opinion. We have played good teams, records don't say it all. The Lions almost beat the Hawks, and the Hawks couldn't score on them, we put up 41. Denver has since won two in a row since we've played them against good teams. Arizona with exception of Warner is a decent team, we beat them in their own home. Green Bay is a hard place to win for any team.

                        I don't buy that look who we've played, we haven't played anyone. You play your schedule given and win the games it's as simple as that. The Rams don't make the schedule their given the schedule, and they've won every game except for one.

                        And if I'm to take your philosophy, the Bears have yet to play a team with a serious running game, and a decent Offensive Line. Their D has had 3 years to gel.

                        So can we please stop with this we haven't played anyone yet. So what happens when we play Seattle, and SA doesn't play and we beat them?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: Stats say It All

                          Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                          Also SJ is a better back than SA.
                          Sorry jigga, but you're 100% nuts on this one. Alexander needs to receive the credit he deserves, which is being a top three RB in this league. To say Jackson is better right now is crazy talk, IMO.

                          As for the teams you listed, let's examine...

                          -LIONS (0-5): The Bills also blew out the Pats in the season opener in 2003 only to finish 6-10 on the year. Teams usually aren't playing their best in their first game of the year, so saying the Lions are good because of how they played Seattle in Week One is not a good indicator to use.

                          -BRONCOS (2-1): Yes they beat the Pats, but struggling at home to beat a Chiefs team that's without Trent Green shouldn't be listed as a major accomplishment.

                          -CARDINALS (1-4): Um, last I checked, we played them with Warner and still were lucky to get out of there with a win. You can't just completely write out a significant player on a team to try and make the case that they're good.

                          -PACKERS (1-4): Historically Lambeau has been a tough place to win, but not recently. They're 0-3 at home this year and 7-12 at home over the last three seasons. It doesn't carry the magic like it used to.


                          Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                          So what happens when we play Seattle, and SA doesn't play and we beat them?
                          Then we can finally say we beat someone? :x

                          Comment

                          Related Topics

                          Collapse

                          • general counsel
                            What a difference a couple of games can make...looking ahead
                            by general counsel
                            Depsite the gloom and doom and the appearance that the defense cant stop anyone, lets assume for a second that we can find a way to beat both the saints and jacksonville and get healthy in the bye week.

                            Think about how excited and geared up we will all be to head to seattle for a little payback. A healthy bulger and bruce. A jelling offensive line. Little back at full strength, a little momentum. Who knows, maybe an injury or two for seattle to some key guys (and i am not talking about receivers that while talented cant hold onto the ball anyway, i am talking about guys like haselback, alexander, jones etc), maybe a game where the refs dont shaft us and best of all, maybe a game where for one time we play to our potential for a full 60 minutes rather than digging a hole early or playing great early and then collapsing either on defense or via turnovers.

                            Guys, if we win the next two, rest up, then beat seattle on the road, we will feel night and day different than we do right now. I dont think this falls into the category of believing that the earth is flat or the easter bunny is real, merely a matter of getting healthy and getting break here or there. I honestly feel we are not as bad as we look and a play here or there (especially at the end of both the seattle and san fran games) and our record would be a lot different. They say that the breaks even out over the course of a season. IF that is true, we have some breaks coming to us and it all starts this week by beating the saints at home. If we cant win this game, i think it could be an incredibly long year and time to get serious both about playing the kids and doing our draft prep work.

                            Ramming speed to all

                            general counsel
                            -10-20-2005, 07:59 AM
                          • LA Rammer
                            This Will NOT be a close one!
                            by LA Rammer
                            Rams will win handily!!! No Hass, No Alexander, you kiddin' me!!! Seattle is not taking this game too seriously. I don't see the squawks winning. The two are a very integral part of this team. The excuses are laid up and piled up high. The only ones who can lose this game are the Rams, defense not even an issue. Mark my words Bulger will have another great game and Jackson will do damage receiving out of the backfield. Holt is also due. As for our defense Pisa is back and Little will get his share of sacks (2-3)

                            I feel good about this game, as it is more important for us. Look at the Rams having, not a great defensive showing, but a decent one enough to hold them off.

                            If it rains Bulger can play in the rain! (vs. Steelers)
                            -11-10-2006, 10:54 PM
                          • RamWraith
                            Road trip will say a lot about the future
                            by RamWraith
                            By Jim Thomas
                            ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                            10/24/2006


                            They've had the bye week to digest that tough-to-swallow loss to Seattle. And now the fun begins. Starting Sunday in San Diego, the Rams play four consecutive games against playoff contenders, with three of them on the road.

                            After visiting the Chargers (4-2), the Rams entertain Kansas City (3-3) on Nov. 5, then travel to Seattle (4-2) and Carolina (4-3). It figures to be the defining stretch for Scott Linehan's inaugural season as an NFL head coach.

                            Go 2-2 or better, and the playoffs loom as a possibility. Do worse than 2-2, and the Rams could miss postseason play for the third time in five seasons.

                            "I think after the bye, it's really not a second season, but it's certainly a refocus time," Linehan said. "This is a key stretch. A tough stretch. They all are. Every NFL game is."


                            That certainly seems to be the case with the Rams this season. No matter who they play, it's a fight to the finish. All six Rams games have been one-possession contests, decided by eight points or fewer.

                            Until this year, the Rams never had played more than five straight one-possession games since their move to St. Louis in 1995. (That stretch occurred in 1997, when Dick Vermeil's first Rams team went 2-3 between mid-November and mid-December, with all five games decided by seven or fewer points.)

                            Linehan's Rams are 4-2 in their series of close finishes. Only a 54-yard field goal by Seattle's Josh Brown prevented them from being 5-1.

                            "If that kick goes wide right, our attitudes could be completely different right now," Rams wide receiver Kevin Curtis said after the 30-28 loss to the Seahawks. "We very easily could be 5-1, 6-0. Or the other end of it."

                            A few more bad breaks and the Rams just as easily could be 2-4 as 4-2.

                            But more often than not, the Rams have ended up on the plus side of that fine line between winning and losing.

                            "This team is getting the identity," offensive guard Adam Timmerman said. "We've got heart. We're going to fight. We're not going to give up if things start going bad, or we're behind. I'm proud of my teammates for that."

                            For defensive end Leonard Little, being 4-2 at the break is a disappointment.

                            "Knowing the players we have on this team, I actually thought when we brought in the players we brought in, that we'd be 6-0 at the bye," Little said. "But we're some fighters. That's one thing we are. We'll come back and claw and scratch our way back to the top somehow."

                            That newfound resiliency will be put to test over the next four weekends, starting Sunday in San Diego. Even with last week's 30-27 loss in Kansas City, the Chargers rank first in the NFL in total defense. They are fourth in...
                            -10-25-2006, 06:10 AM
                          • RamWraith
                            Rams Preparing for Important Showdown
                            by RamWraith
                            Thursday, November 9, 2006

                            By Nick Wagoner
                            Senior Writer

                            Under normal circumstances the “Seahawks” printed across the front of the Rams’ opponents’ jerseys this week would be enough to inspire myriad emotions. The words rivalry, dislike and disdain come to mind when a game between Seattle and St. Louis approaches on the schedule.

                            The Seahawks and Rams will renew acquaintances Sunday, but given the current state of both teams, the rivalry doesn’t mean nearly as much as the possibility of picking up an important victory.

                            “It will be big for us to win a game right now, no matter who we’re playing,” defensive end Leonard Little said. “It will be big if we just win the game. Once we win a game we can go on from there, but until then we’re just going to fight to win the game.”

                            On the heels of a three-game winning streak, the Rams have countered with a three-game losing skid in their past three contests. That trio of losses has St. Louis at 4-4 at the midway point of the season.

                            Obviously, there is plenty of football left to be played and plenty left to play for, but none of it matters unless the Rams can, like Little says, find a way to get a win.

                            Despite the .500 record, the Rams find themselves in a competitive spot within the NFC West Division. Seattle has a 5-3 record and sole possession of first place, but the Rams are right on their heels and can move back into a tie with the Seahawks with a victory.

                            On the flip side, a loss to the Seahawks could be devastating to the Rams’ divisional and playoff hopes. While every week is important in the NFL because there are only 16 games, it’s pretty clear that, for a midseason game, they don’t get much bigger than this one.

                            “It’s like last week, they’re all big,” quarterback Marc Bulger said. “We’re on a three-game slide, it’s in the division, and we dig a very large hole if we lose this one. I think everyone in here understands the magnitude.”

                            The first meeting between the teams came on Oct. 15 and was the type of game that will be remembered for a number of reasons. The Rams jumped on the Seahawks early, grabbing a 21-7 halftime lead in a half that St. Louis dominated in nearly every facet.

                            The second half brought one of the wackiest finishes to a game in recent memory. The Seahawks forged a comeback by coming up with big play after big play. But receiver Torry Holt’s circus catch for a 67-yard touchdown to give the Rams a 28-27 lead with about two minutes to play.

                            Seattle promptly drove down the field before a penalty appeared to give the Rams a 10-second run off for a victory. But, after much confusion, it was ruled there would be no run off for illegal formation and Seattle’s Josh Brown booted a 54-yard field goal to win as time expired.

                            The first half featured the Rams at their best, putting up points...
                            -11-10-2006, 06:10 AM
                          • RamWraith
                            Bulger and Jackons quotes November 14
                            by RamWraith
                            QB Marc Bulger

                            November 14, 2007



                            (On the improved performance of the offense in the last two games)

                            “I’d say a big part of that is Steven (Jackson). You can’t ignore the fact that when he’s in there good things happen. He just brings that energy we need in the huddle and if we can keep him healthy I think we’ll continue to get better and score more points.”



                            (On being more in sync with his receivers against New Orleans than any other game this year)

                            “I think just having that extra second to let them get open. Those guys know when I’m getting hit early that they have to break their routes off short and our timing gets off, but when they know I’m getting time and the line’s going, they can get that extra move and know that I can hold it and they can get that separation. There’s definitely more separation this week than in the past and I think that’s because of the line giving me more time.”



                            (On WR Drew Bennett)

                            “His health is good – that helps. We worked on that play in the end zone. We didn’t hook up earlier in the year. I threw an interception because I don’t think we were on the same page. We made a conscious effort to work on that. We got the matchup we wanted and it was just nice that we practiced it while the defense was going last week and it paid off. He did a good job on some deep routes, too, so if we can keep getting him going it’ll take some pressure off of Ike (Isaac Bruce) and Torry (Holt), too.”



                            (On the ***** pass rush)

                            “It’s a 3-4, which is a little different. They do like to blitz the inside guys a lot. I just don’t think we played well up front last time. I think would tell you that. We did get some big plays and threw for a lot of yards, but it was at the expense of getting me killed. We just have to do a better job up front of establishing a running game, which will help. I think our defense is playing better. If they can give us some good field position, that will help. If we play from behind, that hurts, too.”



                            (On being named NFC Offensive Player of the Week)

                            “When you’re a quarterback and you get it, it’s a whole offensive award. When receivers get it or a running backs gets it, it’s an individual thing. It’s not a big deal, it just shows that our line played well, our receivers played well, Steven played well. It’s a good thing for our offense.”



                            (On how you become a better team at this point in the season)

                            “Keep winning games. You hear college coaches and NFL coaches say how good of a team you are, but in this business it’s about winning and the bottom line. If you’re 1-8, you’re not a good team. If we can win a couple more games and get a more respectable record then I can say we’re a better team, but we’re still 1-8 and that’s a bad football...
                            -11-14-2007, 06:11 PM
                          Working...
                          X