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    Who do you think is going to challenge the Rams the most for the NFC title??

    Seahawks- are much improved.
    Vikings- signed some good D-Players
    Packers- are awlays in there
    Panthers- had a nice run last year
    Philly-you can always get on the band wagon
    Giants-got Warner
    Cowboys-One never knows with Parcells

  • #2
    Re: Which team

    I think it's ours to lose. We had two gapping holes last year and they were different sides of the same coin...running the ball. Offensively, we couldn't do it. Defensively, we couldn't stop it. I think Jackson and a more experienced line improves running the ball, to a degree. But defensively, we will show drastic improvement on the interior D-line. Hide and watch, it will be what puts us over the top.

    But if I have to pick....

    ...I will go with Philly (which makes me sick, because it is the most unoriginal of the picks). Assuming McNabb & Kearse don't have health issues, assuming one of the running-back-by-committee members steps up, assuming their revamped secondary plays well, and assuming TO doesn't prove to be the East Coast version of his own West Coast cancer-self, the Eagles are legitimate contenders.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.


    • #3
      Re: Which team

      I agree we should be able to handle any challengers, as long as we stay healthy and play to the level of our potential. That being said, I think both Philly and Seattle can put up a good fight. Both added to already strong squads, but I worry about the Eagles more. Their potential to do major damage is pretty substantial. Great coaching along with experience in championships games make them our biggest obstacle. They however like us, need to stay healthy, keep the distractions to a minimum and play to the level of their potential. In a matchup where both teams play their best, we win hands down.


      • #4
        Re: Which team

        There is always a surprise, us in 99, Carolina last year.....and this year my team that is going to not necessarily surprise but actually live up to their potential is the Washington Redskins.


        • #5
          Re: Which team

          Originally posted by txramsfan
          There is always a surprise, us in 99, Carolina last year.....and this year my team that is going to not necessarily surprise but actually live up to their potential is the Washington Redskins.
          I'm curious why you went with the skins, Tx. Is it the coaching change? Did they finally spend the right money on the right FA? What's got you leaning thier way?
          The more things change, the more they stay the same.


          • #6
            Re: Which team

            I voted for Phily if only because McNabb has a target now. Their defense is weaker, but you should never discount the dangerousness of McNabb, especially now that he's got Owens to throw to. The Eagles are strong at running back and very strong on the O-line and at TE. Kearse, if healthy, should help mask the weakness of the Phily linebackers. They're a team that's been in the NFC championship game for three years running. I think they have to be the biggest challenge for any NFC team hoping to compete.


            • #7
              Re: Which team

              Originally posted by HUbison
              I'm curious why you went with the skins, Tx. Is it the coaching change? Did they finally spend the right money on the right FA? What's got you leaning thier way?
              Tx is trying to get on my good side now, picking the skins :smile:


              • #8
                Re: Which team

                Good side? Utter I didn't know you had a "bad" side.......LOL

                Anyway, I like what the Redskins did this offseason. Especially with Joe Gibbs. Also, the addition of Clinton Portis will really help the offense. The LB's and secondary for the 'skins is still solid.

                Also, in that division, I'm still not sold on the Cowboys. They did it with mirrors last season. Why do you think Parcells stock piled draft picks this year? He knew the Cowboys really aren't there. Maybe a year away. The Giants aren't very good, and the Eagles lost alot in the offseason.


                • #9
                  Re: Which team

                  GOOD SIDE ...BAD SIDE...
                  I smell a spoon *LOL*

                  sorry couldn't resist


                  • #10
                    Re: Which team

                    Originally posted by TxRamsfan
                    the Eagles lost alot in the offseason
                    What did they really lose, Tx?
                    1. Carlos Emmons - replaced and surpassed by Dhani Jones
                    2. Bobby Taylor - 30 year old CB coming off an injury
                    3. Troy Vincent - 33 year old CB whose stats have been declining for 4 years
                    4. Duce Stayley - just more reps for Buckhalter & Westbrook
                    5. Marco Coleman - Career back-up DE
                    6. Bobby Williams - Career back-up OG

                    There may be a ? with their secondary, but I don't think they really trailed off much if any.
                    The more things change, the more they stay the same.


                    • #11
                      Re: Which team

                      Originally posted by Ramwraith
                      GOOD SIDE ...BAD SIDE...
                      I smell a spoon *LOL*
                      And the Devil said: "Give me a task and upon completion I will take your soul." ... the disoriented Ram Fan replied ... "After you have moved the ocean from one side of the boat to the other with a spoon you can have my soul."

                      Don't ask me what that has to do with whose Rams' competitors will pose the biggest challenge ...


                      • #12
                        Re: Which team

                        don't you know what spooning is adarian...

                        man, woman, side, bed,....


                        You have to go back to one of the fantasy football threads to apprciate the tx, utter thing ;)


                        • #13
                          Re: Which team

                          Originally posted by RamWraith
                          don't you know what spooning is adarian...

                          man, woman, side, bed,....

                          Actually I was trying to not go there and just add some other nonsensical reference to "spoons". The last time I crashed an Utter thread I got cuffed up side the head so I thought I definitely not stray into shrapnel-breeding ground. Back - front - whatever - still seeing how much can be done before the devil's task is done ...


                          • #14
                            Re: Which team

                            Originally posted by adarian_too
                            The last time I crashed an Utter thread I got cuffed up side the head so I thought I definitely not stray into shrapnel-breeding ground. Back - front - whatever - still seeing how much can be done before the devil's task is done ...
                            Oh please adarian, spare me. You LIKE the attention. I am not buying this "I am being cautious" and staying clear of the shrapnel story. :tongue:


                            • #15
                              Re: Which team

                              Originally posted by UtterBlitz
                              Oh please adarian, spare me. You LIKE the attention. I am not buying this "I am being cautious" and staying clear of the shrapnel story. :tongue:

                              Ok ... so I don't care about shrapnel ... but I do worry about the devil ... and if I can keep its attention distracted ... I might have more time to make sense of what little the Rams' FO has done ...


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