Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

    I am guessing we aren't going to get any big names this off-season. I have this sneaky suspicion that teams will be using their franchise tag on most of the players that are going after big money. All the new money that is out there for teams this season is going to reek havoc with teams like the Rams who have managed their cap well over the last several years. Names like Thomas, Briggs, Clements are all going to get franchised. It is almost cheaper to keep them there at this point. So once again the Rams get hosed.

    You all might as well start looking at the second tier players that will be getting the big contracts.

  • #2
    Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

    I might be wrong, but I believe the Bills and Clements came to an agreement when he signed his one year offer for 2006 that he couldn't get franchised in 2007.

    Teams with more cap room may mean a greater chance of them retaining their own players, but I get the impression that players generally don't like having the franchise tag slapped on them and their options reduced.

    Plus there are certain teams, such as Cincinnati, who think they have a viable replacement to their big free agent loss (Eric Steinbach) and thus would rather not spend the money.

    All in all you may see more franchise tags, but I think there will still be a number of very good free agents available.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

      I never expect any "miracles" coming via FA. FA's are usually just players added to a team for depth, or replacing guys you lost via FA and nothing more. It's a rarity to get a player that can make an immediate impact, unless you're so bad at that position ANY decent player will make a difference. (Like the Spoon or Turk) If the player IS "miracle" material, why would they be available?

      We need to get lucky in the draft and hope whoever we get is a quick learner. Linehan and staff need to do their homework, that's for sure. I just hope Haslett is better at evaluating defensive talent than his predecessors. We need at least three impact players added on defense to make us into a real playoff contender. In addition, Linehan's staff has now had a full season to really understand what they have and what they need, and, how best to use what they have. This offseason will test our football people. We need to get the D fixed while we still have the offensive core group currently in place. Linehan and staff can right this ship, or they can sink it just as easy....
      [ATTACH=CONFIG]temp_4324_1458960283388_621[/ATTACH]

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

        Originally posted by Nick View Post
        I might be wrong, but I believe the Bills and Clements came to an agreement when he signed his one year offer for 2006 that he couldn't get franchised in 2007.
        You're right. Clements will either be signed long term or he will hit the FA market. I dont expect him to return to Buffalo though.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

          Well i guess its lucky that Briggs, Thomas and Clements arent at positions where we will be spending a lot of free agent money on.

          We will be going after players like Charles Grant, Justin Smith, Eric Steinbach and Terdell Sands. Grant may get franchised, but Cincy just gave Robin Geathers a huge contract so i dont see them being able to afford paying Smith the money he wants.

          Im hoping for some DL players from teams in cap trouble to get cut. Someone like Mike Rucker or Kris Jenkins. The more top players available at the one position, the less we will have to pay overall for someone
          @EssexRam_

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

            Well i guess its lucky that Briggs, Thomas and Clements arent at positions where we will be spending a lot of free agent money on.
            This team still lacks a true #1 corner and a guy like Clements would be a lot of help to that side of the ball. I would love to see him in Blue and Gold next season

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

              I disagree completely. I think the strength of this team by the end of the year was our secondary. I would much rather see us spend money on the line or linebackers. I agree it would be nice to have a guy like Clements, but to me it would be a waste of resources at this point. We improve the line, we also improve the cornerback position, as a good pass rush makes a cornerback look like gold.


              Originally posted by RamJackson39 View Post
              This team still lacks a true #1 corner and a guy like Clements would be a lot of help to that side of the ball. I would love to see him in Blue and Gold next season

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                Originally posted by RamJackson39 View Post
                This team still lacks a true #1 corner and a guy like Clements would be a lot of help to that side of the ball. I would love to see him in Blue and Gold next season
                But it's not all that practical, especially considering the play of Brown, Hill, and Bartell. Just doesn't seem like a very good use of what's obviously going to be huge free agent money. There are other more troublesome spots (DL, LB, OL) that could benefit from having some money spent in their department.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                  If the player IS "miracle" material, why would they be available?
                  It happens sometimes. For example, Drew Brees was available last off-season after years of sustained Pro Bowl level play. However, seeing how aggressive we were last year, I do expect a milder approach to free agency. I wouldn't be surprised if Briggs or Clements hits free agency, but I would be surprised if we were the highest bidder for either of them. If we have any high profile signings, I'd expect them to be on the defensive line because that's where we need the most help. We've barely got enough defensive ends to fill a game day roster, and with Fisk's one year contract expired, we're back to having only one nose tackle. And then there's the lack of pass rush and inability to stop the run.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                    I see us make a hard push for Charles Grant if he isn't franchised by the Saints!!!

                    steve
                    "The breakfast Club":helmet:

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                      Originally posted by RamJackson39 View Post
                      This team still lacks a true #1 corner and a guy like Clements would be a lot of help to that side of the ball. I would love to see him in Blue and Gold next season
                      if we signed Clements we wouldnt have the money to spend on the DL. Therefore we wouldnt have improved against the run, and we still wouldnt have a pass rush. The corners we have will be more then adequete if we can get in the QBs face, and i dont think even Champ Bailey could cover a guy for as long as our corners are expected to at the moment.
                      @EssexRam_

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                        OK,

                        I wasn't far off when I posted this a month ago. So far Thomas, Briggs and Clements have not been tagged. But you must admit there are lot of players taken from the pool by their own team, either by the tag or re-signed. Anyone got a list? This new salary structure is not going to help us. Trust me.



                        Originally posted by RamWraith View Post
                        I am guessing we aren't going to get any big names this off-season. I have this sneaky suspicion that teams will be using their franchise tag on most of the players that are going after big money. All the new money that is out there for teams this season is going to reek havoc with teams like the Rams who have managed their cap well over the last several years. Names like Thomas, Briggs, Clements are all going to get franchised. It is almost cheaper to keep them there at this point. So once again the Rams get hosed.

                        You all might as well start looking at the second tier players that will be getting the big contracts.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                          I'm not ignoring our defensive issues but I really hope we go after Steinbach.
                          sigpic :ram::helmet:

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                            Originally posted by laram0 View Post
                            I'm not ignoring our defensive issues but I really hope we go after Steinbach.
                            well what with players being franchised he is one of the few decent players available at a position of relative need for the Rams
                            @EssexRam_

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: Don't expect any free agent miracles for the Rams

                              I think we go FA's for any good DL and in the draft also! Because I have a hunch, If the Rams can find a good run stuffer and another good pass rusher, We would probably end up with the best secondary in the league!!!!!!!

                              Comment

                              Related Topics

                              Collapse

                              • Goldenfleece
                                What can an uncapped year do for you?
                                by Goldenfleece
                                It won't help you get younger. Assuming there is no collective bargaining agreement signed within the next three weeks, this will mean (a) most of the players who would have been unrestricted free agents will likely be retained by their current teams, (b) the free agents who do hit the open market will mostly be 28 or older because they have to have six years in the league, and (c) the youngest talent in the market will be players who were eligible for free agency several years ago and were unable to land long-term deals.

                                This is bad news for the Rams. If the old CBA was intact the Rams would be sitting pretty $35 million under the salary cap. If the owners successfully negotiated the cap down, this would be even better for the Rams because it would put the squeeze on teams that had been playing it close. With no cap, the Rams are just a mid-market team in the middle of a transition in ownership.

                                The free agent market will likely be smaller than usual and more expensive. Because there will be so few starters available in free agency, I would predict competition would be more fierce. This has less to do with the lack of a cap and more to do with simple supply and demand. Effectively, the 26-year-old crowd who would normally be up for their second contract will be removed from free agency, but there will still be a market for the 31-year-old third contract group and to a lesser extent the 35+ "I'm not dead yet" market.

                                There will still be a few positions we might improve. The quarterback market is likely to be almost non-existent. Even guys like Tarvaris Jackson and Jason Campbell could be retained if their teams so choose, but there will be a few options at back-up runningback including Leon Washington, Willie Parker, Chester Taylor, and Chris Brown. It is unlikely that a true #1 receiver will hit the market, and only a small number of solid #2's. L.J. Smith, formerly of the Eagles, might be an option at tight end, and Ben Watson will be one of the top names in free agency if he is available. The best starter prospects are probably at defensive end: Julius Peppers, Aaron Kampman, and Kyle Vanden Bosch are all possibilities provided they are not tagged. There may be a few options at linebacker including Gary Brackett, Scott Fujita, Angelo Crowell, Cato June, and Tully Banta-Cain.
                                -02-14-2010, 08:29 PM
                              • mcpeepants232003
                                We do not need to blow money
                                by mcpeepants232003
                                Just because we have alot of cap room and the majority of impact defensive players have been tagged doesn't mean we need to spend the money on something else. I keep hearing suggestions on using the money on a third receiver or another piece to our offense and it boggles me why everyone just wants us to throw our money away. I would be happy with us signing Chris Kelsay and a solid dt and building through the draft. All of the top teams(Patriots, Colts, Chargers and Bears) have built their teams throught the draft. Most of the teams that make big splashes in free agency have struggled. I think with the loss of the elite defensive players in free agency it should put most of our focus on where it should have been in the first place, building a solid group of young talented players through drafting and low risk/high reward free agents.
                                -02-23-2007, 09:44 AM
                              • lordwhttgr
                                Free Agency
                                by lordwhttgr
                                Please Rams, don't do anything!!! Free agency is for teams that need spot filled to get better right now. We are not in that group. We need to build great players from the ground up and that comes from the draft. I mean who is out there that we need so bad that we can't wait and see what is available in the draft. In my honest opinion, our Defense is tight and our Offense just needs tweaked to get going. T Austin, Z Stacy and even K Clemens improved through out the year. We beat teams like the Colts, Bears and the Saints. The Rams where the youngest team in the league last year and we reached 7-9. With Sam coming back, I think we can break into the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

                                Stay the course, cause it is way more fun that when we had Linehan and watching 1-15 to 3-13 every year!! We don't need those has bens on our team!!!


                                GO RAMS!!!!
                                Buy Season Tickets!!!
                                Keep the Rams in St. Louis!!!
                                -03-12-2014, 05:07 AM
                              • rammiser
                                I'm beginning to hate free agency.
                                by rammiser
                                Free agency is getting out of control. As I watch average player after average player get signed to record deals and the really good ones get even more it really is out of control. This is something the NFL should look into. I dont know how they can do it but they need to figure this out. Performaced based maybe? Do you think the Whiners believe Clements is worth his contract from last year. He's a nice player sure but he's not worth more money than Bailey. It's just getting out of control every year the free agents get rediculous contracts that set the price tag for an even higher payoff the next year. Most of the time it isnt even worth what you paid. The draft is almost the same way, the number one pick get all this money and for what? Being the best college player? I like the NBA's system where there is a cap on how much you can make based on how long you've been in the league. It can be tough on older vets but it's not getting out of control anymore. I want the Rams to get some good players but I hate to see them get an average player for top tier money and that is free agency in a nutshell.
                                -02-29-2008, 12:35 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                I just figured out who the best player in the NFL is...
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Its the player that the Rams "were interested" in who just signed with another team.

                                Seriously, while it hasn't been too bad on these boards, beware if you travel around the web for Rams news these days. There are Rams fans everywhere who are crying over the Rams' "lack of moves."

                                To those people, I'd say "relax." Yes, the Rams have some needs that should be addressed (OLB, DT, OG, backup RB), but there are still a lot of FAs out there, and the list is only going to grow in the next couple of days as more veterans are released.

                                In the next several days, the Rams are going to sign some players. They might not be the "BIG NAMES" we hoped for, but they may be the right players nonetheless.
                                -07-28-2011, 08:02 PM
                              Working...
                              X