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  • Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

    What would be the impact?
    Yes. They already have viable replacements on the roster.
    Yes, but only if they modify the offense to account for his absence.
    Somewhat. It would hurt the offense, but they would still be effective.
    No. He is an essential part and there is nobody on the team who can replace him.

  • #2
    Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

    There will most certainly be an impact, but I think they should be relatively OK with some adjustments.


    • #3
      Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

      I think they can survive without him if they can find the right person to fill the spot. And running the ball would help things even more.

      Adm. William "Bull" Halsey


      • #4
        Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

        If memory serves me right, I seem to recall the Rams offense functioning just fine before Turley arrived.
        Clannie Nominee for ClanRam's Thickest Poster


        • #5
          Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

          Really? I seem to remember John St. Clair whiffing on a lot of blocks and our quarterbacks struggling with injury throughout 2002. Maybe my memory's fading...


          • #6
            Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

            I seem to remember John St. Clair whiffing on a lot of blocks and our quarterbacks struggling with injury throughout 2002. Maybe my memory's fading...
            You're absolutely right, however, my comment was made with the 1999 through 2001 seasons in mind.
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            • #7
              Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

              Did they function with him last year? By functioning you mean having a successfull season correct?

              Successfull season means winning the big game. Ask this question at the end of the year.



              • #8
                Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

                I don't want to see the O line without Turley and his saucy attitude this year.

                Welcome to the clan Reborn....I like your name and your location. Not a bad place to be.


                • #9
                  Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

                  Any team that counts on any one player in any one position without being able to adjust for their absence is asking for trouble.


                  • #10
                    Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?

                    Well said Opal.



                    • #11
                      Re: Can The Rams' Offense Function w/out Turley?


                      Is he going to retire?

                      Curly ~ Horns


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                        Walter Payton Man of the Year Nominee Kyle Turley
                        by RamWraith
                        Tuesday, October 5, 2004

                        By Nick Wagoner
                        Staff Writer

                        Kyle Turley knows all about stereotypes. He has seen it from every angle and every position possible.

                        Turley has been labeled because of his long hair and tattoos and his sometimes-reckless approach to football. He is what many people consider as the prototype of a gCalifornia Surfer Dude.h Look beyond that flimsy stereotype and you will see that what makes Turley tick is far more than any loud music or new ink could do.

                        On the field, Turley is as mean as they come. He has to be. He plays offensive tackle, a position not exactly built for the faint of heart. His imposing frame and demeanor make him seem like some sort of caged beast and he iscon the field.

                        Take Turley away from the game and he becomes something else, something unexpected. Turley is one of the gamefs good guys. Scratch that, Turley is one of the gamefs best guys.

                        This season, Turley is on injured reserve because of a back injury. While the news was devastating to Turley and the Rams, there is a silver lining for people in St. Louis and other parts of the country.

                        gI am just going to try to make positive use of the time,h Turley said. gI want to try to keep my face in the public eye so I can continue to spread all of the important messages.h

                        Along with his wife Stacy, Turley goes above and beyond the call of duty to make a difference in the community. That relentless dedication, has earned Turley a nomination for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, given each year to the player who best balances his responsibilities in the community with those on the field.

                        A truly unique athlete with vast interests beyond football, Turley doesnft shy away from the tough issues and has tackled the challenge of educating people on the value of diversity and acceptance through his work with the Diversity Awareness Partnership. When he speaks on the subject of diversity, he often offers himself as an example of perception versus reality and looking past stereotypes.

                        gIfm not just a football player,h Turley said. gI want to help awareness and show these kids that there are so many things out there for them. They need to know that color, race, none of those things matter.h

                        In addition to his extensive work with the Diversity Awareness Partnership, Turley, a musician who majored in art at San Diego State, has also devoted himself to the Arts and Education Council which raises funds to support the arts and arts education activities in the St. Louis metropolitan area.

                        gThe arts have played a significant part in shaping the person I am today,h Turley said. gAnd by partnering with the Arts and Education Council, Stacy and I hope to bring a new level of awareness to the importance of all art forms ranging from music to visual arts.h
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                        Rams to file suit against Turley?
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                        by Nick
                        Offensive lineman asks Rams to switch him to defense
                        By Brent Schrotenboer
                        UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

                        April 2, 2005

                        St. Louis Rams offensive tackle Kyle Turley is planning a switch to defensive end this year a position he hasn't played since high school as long he can pass a physical exam and resume working relations with a head coach he won't forgive.

                        Turley, a former standout at San Diego State, wants to switch to defensive end to relieve pressure on his back, a subject of controversy and much physical stress for Turley since December. Turley suffered from a herniated disc in preseason training camp and missed the entire 2004 season.

                        "I need to play a position where I have more freedom to move around and get out of problem situations," Turley said yesterday by phone. "My back was injured on pass plays (on offense)."

                        Turley said Rams General Manager Charlie Armey and operations chief Jay Zygmunt have given him the "we'll see" answer to his switch request. A call to the Rams office seeking comment was not immediately returned last night.

                        In the last three months, Turley's weight dipped to 235 for the first time since his freshman year at SDSU. After working out in Tempe, Ariz., he has it back up to 260 with a target of 275. He was once up to 309.

                        As a result, he said, he's going to be faster than ever and is feeling great about extending his career. A bigger question might be how he'll be received by head coach Mike Martz if he does. In December, Turley got into a shouting match with Martz after Turley said Martz questioned the seriousness of Turley's injury. Turley allegedly threatened to kill Martz a charge Turley denies.

                        "There's definitely hard feelings," Turley said. "As far as I'm concerned, I don't have to forgive anybody. The things he said to me, I don't plan on forgetting."

                        Turley said that from now on his relationship with Martz wil be: "He stays away from me, and I stay away from him."

                        According to Turley, Martz said that Turley came to St. Louis "to take the money and run." Turley, 29, signed a six-year, $26.5 million contract after joining the Rams in 2003.

                        "How do you say that to a guy who hasn't missed a down or a practice in six years and faces a serious, career-ending injury?" Turley asked.

                        Turley, a former first-round draft pick in 1998, also said he's ditched many diet supplements in his quest to regain his health and weight. Instead of multivitamins, for example, he's sticking to a strict diet and nutritional shakes. His body fat rate is down from 10 percent to 8 percent.

                        Turley had surgery on his back in March 2004 but didn't want to have more surgery last fall that could have further jeopardized his career.
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                      • moklerman
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                        It seems that a lot of Rams fans aren't too thrilled with the prospect of Kyle Turley returning to the team this year, if ever. Some have speculated that, whether he even wants to return, it will be unlikely that he regains his near 300 lb. weight.

                        Turley himself has admitted that he has trouble keeping the weight on and that he plays heavier than his frame/build is designed for. In general, I think Turley, while playing, was thought of as an "athletic" RT wasn't he? If he's actually a good athlete, his natural playing weight is in the 270 range(?) and Martz's tendency to experiment with player's positions, I have a proposal that will fulfill a need on the roster and allow the Rams not to waste a contract.

                        Please welcome your 2005, Rams starting TE Kyle Turley! Okay, I'm not saying he could be a TE for any team in the league but with the Rams' general nonuse of the TE in the passing game and Kyle's superior (for a TE) blocking skills it seems like the perfect fit. I don't know if he can catch at all but he couldn't be any worse the Manumaleuna. Add to that the fiery disposition he has and he might be a Jeremy Shockey-type spark plug for the offense. Maybe even give the O some much needed attitude down in the red-zone.

                        It kind of sounds crazy, but it also kind of makes sense. If the Rams are going to pick a project every year I think this would bare sweet fruit if handled right.
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