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  • More Hadley: Turley out entire year

    Thursday, August 19
    18:27:47 CDT




    NO: Kyle Turley will not play football in 2004. I've said it before and will say it again... Turley will not play this season, and remains highly questionable for the 2005 season.

    As I reported first, Turley will pass on the option of a second back surgery hence will spend a significant amount of "down time" this winter.

    I've had two Rams sources confirm this report... and I've said on KTRS, I've said it on Fox Sports Midwest... nothing has changed since my initial reports, the references to a return in four weeks is wishful thinking.

    YEP: For those mocking moi the last four weeks regarding my report (once again, first in ALL THE LAND, on Fox Sports Midwest, Dave Wohlabaugh "wouldn't" play this season.

    Yes, the announcement came a week later than expected however it's now official.

    OUCH: Insiders report that Jimmy Kennedy was on the field.... already injured. The significance of his injury was heightened in part due to lack of rest for the existing problem.

  • #2
    Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

    Hadley's constant need to pat himself on the back for "breaking" stories just makes him look like a fool with very questionable credibility.

    I suspect that it is probably true that Turley won't play this year, but I won't consider it "confirmed" until someone more reputable than Hadley is reporting the story.


    • #3
      Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

      Agreed. I think I'd be more tolerable of Hadley if he didn't feel the need to congratulate himself on everything he gets right. Still, I figured it was news worthy.


      • #4
        Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

        hadley sounds like a 3.99 cents per min. psychic. he makes predictions based on conjectures based on possible or probable outcomes and when one seemingly comes true later on he can lay claim to special early insight and privileged connections... wasn't he the one to say that marshall won't play this season too?

        hell, let me try one... my inside connections have told me that martz is on bad terms with aneas williams and will get rid of him within the next two or three seasons...


        • #5
          Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

          Well, Hadley speculated that Faulk might consider retirement if his knee is a problem. I don't think he ever flat out said "Faulk will retire in 2004" or something. I think Hadley's point was that Faulk wasn't at 100% and there were concerns as to what his role would be this season. Then it kind of blew up from there.


          • #6
            Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

            Originally posted by NickSeiler
            Well, Hadley speculated that Faulk might consider retirement if his knee is a problem. I don't think he ever flat out said "Faulk will retire in 2004" or something. I think Hadley's point was that Faulk wasn't at 100% and there were concerns as to what his role would be this season. Then it kind of blew up from there.
            That may be true, but if Faulk had retired, you know Hadley would have announced "I told you so!"

            My sources tell me that the Rams will win all their games in which they outscore their opponents.


            • #7
              Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

              This is breaking news... I've had two Rams sources confirm just this morning that Jimmy Kennedy will indeed eat at McDonald's today instead of taking his usual trip to Taco Bell. Some suspect he'll order McNuggets; others speculate that he'll try something different this time - possibly even something off the Dollar Menu.


              • #8
                Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

                You're all on crack. Everyone knows Kennedy is on the Angus diet and he will be heading to Burger King. :king:


                • #9
                  Re: More Hadley: Turley out entire year

                  Originally posted by AvengerRam
                  That may be true, but if Faulk had retired, you know Hadley would have announced "I told you so!"
                  Probably, but we should note that he didn't actually say Faulk would retire in 2004.


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                  • RamDez
                    Rams' Turley says he may retire
                    by RamDez

                    Rams' Turley says he may retire

                    BY STEVE KORTE

                    Knight Ridder Newspapers

                    ST. LOUIS - (KRT) - Offensive tackle Kyle Turley, who will sit out the entire 2004 season for the St. Louis Rams due to a back injury, is mulling retirement.

                    The 28-year-old Turley left training camp three weeks ago to seek out the opinion of several back specialists, and was told that he will likely require a second operation on the herniated disc in his back if he ever wants to return to the football field.

                    If Turley opts for the operation, he probably wouldn`t be healthy enough to play until midway through the 2005 season.

           reported that Turley`s friends say he is not yet mentally prepared for the rigors of such a lengthy rehabilitation.

                    There`s also no guarantee that the surgery will permanently correct Turley`s chronic back problems.

                    Turley, appearing on Fox Sports Net`s "Best Damn Sports Show Period" on Thursday, said it was 50-50 whether he`d ever play again.

                    "There`s the quality of life after football," Turley said in an interview on FSN Midwest. "I want to be able to pick my kids up when I`m 40 years old and carry them around."

                    Turley failed to return several telephone calls from Rams coach Mike Martz in the week after he left training camp.

                    "At the time, when things we`re going on, and Mike came on the air and talked about how I didn`t call him back, I was traveling around," Turley said. "And, it was a situation that I had not been used to dealing with. I was angry in some cases that this (injury) happened again and in other cases very disheartened. I didn`t return a lot of telephone calls."

                    If Turley does retire, the Rams could seek the return of a portion of the $10 million signing bonus he received when they acquired him in a trade with the New Orleans Saints in March, 2003.

                    Turley has been placed on injured reserve for this season. He`ll count $2.36 million against the Rams` salary cap for 2004.

                    Turley was a model of durability before the back injury. He had missed only one game in six previous NFL seasons.

                    The loss of Turley and center Dave Wohlabaugh, who was released after failing to comeback from off-season hip surgery, was a big blow for the Rams` offensive line.

                    Compounding matters is the holdout of Pro Bowl left tackle Orlando Pace, who has yet to sign the one-year, $7.05 million tender as the team`s franchise agent.

                    The Rams are in the process of finalizing their roster. They must trim 12 players by 3 p.m. on Sunday to get down to the NFL regular-season limit of 53 players....
                    -09-05-2004, 04:59 AM
                  • Nick
                    Turley will start for the Rams in 2005, according to Sean Salisbury
                    by Nick
                    Salisbury said on SportsCenter tonight that he talked to Turley and his agent, and Turley said he loved the Rams organization and wants to be their starter in 2005.

                    Take it with a grain of salt.
                    -12-28-2004, 02:58 PM
                  • Nick
                    Turley hopes to recover, come back next season
                    by Nick
                    Turley hopes to recover, come back next season
                    By Jim Thomas
                    Of the Post-Dispatch

                    Kyle Turley's whereabouts haven't quite reached "Where's Waldo?" proportions. It only seemed that way last week when Rams coach Mike Martz was asked about Turley's status.

                    "I have no idea where he is," Martz said. "I have no idea if he wants to play or can play. ... I have not seen him."

                    Reached Tuesday by the Post-Dispatch, Turley said he wants to play next season for the Rams. But he's trying to do so without having a second back surgery for a herniated disc.

                    Turley said he has tried to keep a low profile since aggravating the back injury in training camp. If that approach has offended anyone, particularly Martz, Turley said that was not his intent.

                    "I don't know if there's any underlying personal issues that Mike Martz has with me," Turley said. "I have no idea. ... I've tried to keep it at a professional level from the beginning.

                    "I just mistakenly assumed that Mike Martz had talked with (team president) Jay Zygmunt and knew what was going on because my agent was in direct contact with Zygmunt and with the doctors."

                    Since being placed on the season-ending injured reserve list Aug. 28, Turley said he has participated in a lot of charity events hosted by the Rams. He has gone to several dinners with groups of players, and he has done pregame television work at home games.

                    "I walk around the field pregame, say, 'Hi' to the guys," Turley said.

                    But then he gets out of the way.

                    "Mike Martz has never expressed an interest in having me on the sidelines at games," Turley said. "I can't stand on that turf anyway. ... My back starts tightening up on me.

                    "They haven't asked me to come down and coach or help or do anything like that. So I just assumed that they knew what I'm doing. I don't want to be in the way."

                    Pass blocking at right tackle has been an issue for the Rams much of the season. And pass blocking at right tackle is what Turley does best. For that reason, he said he didn't want to be standing on the sidelines at games, and have cameras zooming in on him every time the Rams gave up a sack at right tackle.

                    "I don't want it to be viewed as, 'Oh, there's Kyle Turley. That's the reason why they're losing,' " he said. "That team needs to focus. That offensive line needs to focus. In team sports, you don't need distractions. And I'm trying hard not to be a distraction."

                    Turley has spent very little time at Rams Park. Under his physical therapy regimen, he needs only a pair of 10-pound dumb bells and what he calls a "physio-ball." So there's no equipment he needs at Rams Park. When not visiting his physical...
                    -12-15-2004, 07:46 AM
                  • RamWraith
                    Walter Payton Man of the Year Nominee Kyle Turley
                    by RamWraith
                    Tuesday, October 5, 2004

                    By Nick Wagoner
                    Staff Writer

                    Kyle Turley knows all about stereotypes. He has seen it from every angle and every position possible.

                    Turley has been labeled because of his long hair and tattoos and his sometimes-reckless approach to football. He is what many people consider as the prototype of a gCalifornia Surfer Dude.h Look beyond that flimsy stereotype and you will see that what makes Turley tick is far more than any loud music or new ink could do.

                    On the field, Turley is as mean as they come. He has to be. He plays offensive tackle, a position not exactly built for the faint of heart. His imposing frame and demeanor make him seem like some sort of caged beast and he iscon the field.

                    Take Turley away from the game and he becomes something else, something unexpected. Turley is one of the gamefs good guys. Scratch that, Turley is one of the gamefs best guys.

                    This season, Turley is on injured reserve because of a back injury. While the news was devastating to Turley and the Rams, there is a silver lining for people in St. Louis and other parts of the country.

                    gI am just going to try to make positive use of the time,h Turley said. gI want to try to keep my face in the public eye so I can continue to spread all of the important messages.h

                    Along with his wife Stacy, Turley goes above and beyond the call of duty to make a difference in the community. That relentless dedication, has earned Turley a nomination for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, given each year to the player who best balances his responsibilities in the community with those on the field.

                    A truly unique athlete with vast interests beyond football, Turley doesnft shy away from the tough issues and has tackled the challenge of educating people on the value of diversity and acceptance through his work with the Diversity Awareness Partnership. When he speaks on the subject of diversity, he often offers himself as an example of perception versus reality and looking past stereotypes.

                    gIfm not just a football player,h Turley said. gI want to help awareness and show these kids that there are so many things out there for them. They need to know that color, race, none of those things matter.h

                    In addition to his extensive work with the Diversity Awareness Partnership, Turley, a musician who majored in art at San Diego State, has also devoted himself to the Arts and Education Council which raises funds to support the arts and arts education activities in the St. Louis metropolitan area.

                    gThe arts have played a significant part in shaping the person I am today,h Turley said. gAnd by partnering with the Arts and Education Council, Stacy and I hope to bring a new level of awareness to the importance of all art forms ranging from music to visual arts.h
                    -10-06-2004, 06:06 AM
                  • Nick
                    Turley wants to play defense
                    by Nick
                    Offensive lineman asks Rams to switch him to defense
                    By Brent Schrotenboer
                    UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

                    April 2, 2005

                    St. Louis Rams offensive tackle Kyle Turley is planning a switch to defensive end this year a position he hasn't played since high school as long he can pass a physical exam and resume working relations with a head coach he won't forgive.

                    Turley, a former standout at San Diego State, wants to switch to defensive end to relieve pressure on his back, a subject of controversy and much physical stress for Turley since December. Turley suffered from a herniated disc in preseason training camp and missed the entire 2004 season.

                    "I need to play a position where I have more freedom to move around and get out of problem situations," Turley said yesterday by phone. "My back was injured on pass plays (on offense)."

                    Turley said Rams General Manager Charlie Armey and operations chief Jay Zygmunt have given him the "we'll see" answer to his switch request. A call to the Rams office seeking comment was not immediately returned last night.

                    In the last three months, Turley's weight dipped to 235 for the first time since his freshman year at SDSU. After working out in Tempe, Ariz., he has it back up to 260 with a target of 275. He was once up to 309.

                    As a result, he said, he's going to be faster than ever and is feeling great about extending his career. A bigger question might be how he'll be received by head coach Mike Martz if he does. In December, Turley got into a shouting match with Martz after Turley said Martz questioned the seriousness of Turley's injury. Turley allegedly threatened to kill Martz a charge Turley denies.

                    "There's definitely hard feelings," Turley said. "As far as I'm concerned, I don't have to forgive anybody. The things he said to me, I don't plan on forgetting."

                    Turley said that from now on his relationship with Martz wil be: "He stays away from me, and I stay away from him."

                    According to Turley, Martz said that Turley came to St. Louis "to take the money and run." Turley, 29, signed a six-year, $26.5 million contract after joining the Rams in 2003.

                    "How do you say that to a guy who hasn't missed a down or a practice in six years and faces a serious, career-ending injury?" Turley asked.

                    Turley, a former first-round draft pick in 1998, also said he's ditched many diet supplements in his quest to regain his health and weight. Instead of multivitamins, for example, he's sticking to a strict diet and nutritional shakes. His body fat rate is down from 10 percent to 8 percent.

                    Turley had surgery on his back in March 2004 but didn't want to have more surgery last fall that could have further jeopardized his career.
                    -04-03-2005, 09:05 PM