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    Armey on KTRS

    Posted by dmoff206 on the HERD Board--


    A range of questions this a.m., but not a lot of new information about the Rams and what's going on.....

    Armey started off talking about the Offensive Line, seems Truley is out for the season, at least that's what the thinking process is now. Armey is very happy with the hard work by both Dishmen and Nutten. Really likes Nutten because he has worked with Timmerman and McCollum before and they make a good team, know the habits of each other. Very surprised by Tercero who has worked hard and has been very impressive. Absolutely NO MENTION OF Orlando Pace. His name never came up. Armey had nothing but Kudos for Jackie Slater. Says he is doing wonders with these young lineman at this point in time. Not only is Armey very comfortable with the OL, but I believe Hadley talked well of them. It sounds at this point in time that this is going to be a very good offensive line this season with age and youth.

    The Bears/Fish trade came up and RK asked why there are not more blockbuster trades in the NFL. Armey explained that because of the Salary Cap, it's almost impossible to trade a high salary star to another team because of the cap hit. He said this won't change until they make some changes in how the salary cap is effected from trades, cuts and releases.

    Armey was asked about the move of Hargrove to the inside, but there was no real answer on this question. Armey just made the comment that When this young man's voice changes, he'll be pretty good". Also said Martz is working Smoker hard in every practice and he's coming along nicely. We'll all know more this week with Smoker gets some solid playing time in the two games.

    Hadley brought up the Freddy Kruger of the Rams, Special Teams play. Army was very specific on this point in the interview. When it comes down to filling the final 4 to 5 spots on the team, they will be special teams players. The Rams are very deep right now in the preseason in WRs, LBs and at the Safety position. It will be the players who look best in special teams that will fill these final spots. Armey also believes that any of these final cuts the Rams make, these same players will end up on other teams. He believes they are that strong this preseason. Also said when it comes to making the final choices on who stays, the Special Teams coach will have big say on who he wants. Not sure if this is a change or not, but sounds like a good idea.

    Armey was asked about Kurt Warner and how he has looked this season. He said he thought Warner looked good the other night, but didn't see what happened on the interception. Said he heard two different versions, receiver ran the wrong route, Warner threw the wrong route. He said it didn't really matter, they want Warner to be successful where ever he ends up, but they have two young QBs to work with at this time. Bulger and Smoker are the QBs in the Rams future and that's who the Rams are watching and trying to make into great QBs. He mentioned that Warner means a lot to this organization, but as much as he is loved, he has moved on and so must the Rams. They aren't really too concerned about what happens to him in New York, they are more concerned about their own young QBs.

    That's all I was able to get, Armey talked about depth at certain positions and how important it is. Mentioned the Eagles and their problems at Running Back now with both Staley and Buckhaulter either down or traded.
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    why do you think he would mention the eagles problems? maybe a trade???

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      I dunno, maybe. If there's a trade in the works, I don't think it's gonna happen until Gordon is healthy and shows he can at least compete adequately again. He probably mentioned it in passing when talking about other league news, like the Bears/Dolphins trade. Or who knows, maybe he just brought up because the Rams also have had some injuries at the position, sort of like "We sort of know how the Eagles are feeling" kind of thing. It's hard to tell at this point, I'd think.

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        why do you think he would mention the eagles problems? maybe a trade???
        The Eagles just signed Dorsey Levins so I would doubt a trade, but you never know.
        It sounds at this point in time that this is going to be a very good offensive line this season with age and youth.
        I hope he's not just blowing smoke. The running game needs to get back on track and it starts up front.
        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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        • RamWraith
          Armey on KTRS
          by RamWraith
          Posted by dmoff206 on the HERD Board--
          Armey on KTRS

          Just getting my notes together and making sure someone else didn't post it first. Not much of a note taker and sometimes things are hard to read, but here we go.......

          As we already know, Truley's on the IR for the year, but no talk about a problem between him and Martz. Armey feels Pace will be back this week and with him back the Rams will have 3 solid tackles to start the year. Armey had nothing but praise for the offensive line and the way they protected on Friday Night with all the blitzs they came with.

          We've heard this before, but after Friday Nights game it's pretty clear that this can be a good offensive line this year, especially once Pace gets back

          Armey couldn't say enough good things about Steven Jackson and the way he runs the ball. He compared him to Marshall as a receiver and to Dickerson as a runner. But even with those comparisons he says Jackson is really his own person and does things differently than other RBs that he might be compared to. He made the comment that they (the Rams) couldn't believe Parcells let this guy slide by. He is the perfect Parcells type runner. Armey also says that Martz is so happy about this Jackson situation that he can now do things on the offensive side of the ball he could never do before.

          Establish a running game?

          One of the biggest surprises this preseason has been the play of Chillar. When originally scouted, Chillar looked like a player who could excell at everything he attempted on the field and so far it's been true. He's made some rookie mistakes, but overall his play has been solid. He's actually playing like anticipated but he's doing it in his rookie season. That's the big surprise.

          Armey was then asked if the preseason was too long. He says there's two ways to look at it. IF you have a vet team, then yes it is too long. But for most teams, you need the time to prepare. "You only get good at this game by playing it". He is really high on the way Martz prepared this team over the last two weeks. He really believes the Rams are nearing the point of being totally ready for the beginning of the season. Says he was impressed by the Friday Night game.

          The final talk was about the waiver wire. Armey says they are going to be watching the wire for good players. Interesting point, Armey claims the best teams to watch are the ones with a turnover in staff from the pervious year. He says these are the teams who most likely will cut a solid player. He says there will be a good number of solid players on the waiver wire after the last two cuts. Two interesting points, Armey says that most of the Rams that will be cut will be picked up because their scouting department is so good. And there are 79 former Rams on other teams at this point in time.

          Thanks...................................
          -08-29-2004, 10:57 AM
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          Is Armey out on or about june 1?
          by Guest
          According to howard, charley armey, who (like ziggy) has been working without a contract, may be leaving the rams on or about june 1. Rumour has him going to the giants to take over as gm when arcosi retires. Report is that mccutcheon will take over for him as gm.

          While this should not come as a surprise to anyone, if true, lets look at the potential implications. First, I believe it further solidifies martz's spot in the organization. Clearly, shaw still runs the team, however, martz would be left as not just the final decision maker on personnel issues, but also the lead guy in that area. Ziggy is basically a cap manager and contract negotiator (assuming he stays which is not a given either). Charley is way, way too good at what he does to be a powerless gm, really a glorified director of scouting. Frankly, i thought he was going to leave sooner after we denied him permission to talk to the falcons when that job was available.

          I will always consider armey as one of the great all time rams execs. He was a key component in bringing us the title and this great run over the last several years. Like don klosterman before him, he was the guy that helped put us in a position to win. Of course, he had a lot of help, but i think that there is no denying that he was a very meaningful part of both the team and the organization.

          We spend a good deal of time on this board talking about rams that left/got away that we would like to have back. While there is no salary cap that affects executives, sometimes its hard to have more than one captain of a ship and given Martz final say on player personnel decisions, this appears to be the best move for both charley and the organization. Only time will tell whether we left the right or the wrong guy in charge.

          If i was a giants fan and armey took that job i would be thrilled to death. He will help make them a winner for sure.

          ramming speed to all and a BIG ramming speed to mr. armey

          general counsel
          -05-12-2005, 06:22 PM
        • RamWraith
          Charley Armey: A team player
          by RamWraith
          By Jim Thomas
          ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

          After nearly a decade on the job with the Rams, Charley Armey is nearing the finish line. In June, when Tony Softli was hired as vice president of player personnel, the Rams also quietly announced that Armey was being reassigned.

          Armey has run the Rams' personnel department since 1998, including the past six seasons as general manager. But with the arrival of Softli, Armey's new job description in this, the final year of his contract with the club, is vice president of pro personnel.

          No matter how you look at it, it's a demotion for Armey. Those close to Armey say he briefly considered retiring or resigning after the Softli hire was finalized in June. But he decided to stay on for what looks very much like his final year.

          "They asked me to stay, and I feel very, very loyal to the Rams and the city of St. Louis," Armey said.


          Armey doesn't give many interviews these days, a far cry from the heyday of the Greatest Show on Turf when he seemed to show up everywhere in newspaper, radio and TV reports. But in a recent interview with the Post-Dispatch, Armey said he holds no ill will toward the organization over the restructuring in the personnel department.

          "I've been treated fairly here," Armey said. "John Shaw has been tremendous to work for. He's always been honest and open. Everyone knows we've had a rough run here lately. But I've always tried to put the organization and winning first. Nobody's more important than what your team objectives and goals are."

          Immediately following the 2006 draft, there were signals from Rams management that the organization might stand pat for at least another year in the personnel department. New coach Scott Linehan was pleased with how the draft process went, and at least some of that credit went to Armey.

          Perhaps Armey would run yet another draft in St. Louis, as he had done for nine consecutive seasons, from 1998 through 2006. But that all changed with Softli's hiring.

          "I anticipated that there was a possibility that it could happen," Armey said. "There was no surprise. The team was going through a reorganization, and it maybe was time for me to cut back. And I think it's important that the new coach and his staff have the people in place that they feel they need to win.

          "Whatever your job is -- coach, president, player -- there always comes a time when it's time for somebody new to come in because they feel they can do a better job than you do."

          As vice president of pro personnel, Armey will organize the team's pro personnel department, which had been all but nonexistent in recent years. He will do advance scouting; evaluate players on opposing teams from week to week; and evaluate players scheduled to be unrestricted and restricted free agents at...
          -08-13-2006, 02:26 PM
        • RamWraith
          Armey expected to step down :-(
          by RamWraith
          Sad news indeed...I really liked this guy and think the last couple years he has not been allowed to reach his peek.

          According to the ESPN Draft Guide 2006, Rams GM Charley Armey "is expected to retire after the draft, and the Rams may look to personnel director Lawrence McCutcheon to fill his spot. That'd be a good move, as he's more of a football guy than president Jay Zygmunt, an excellent cap manager who makes all the final decisions."
          -03-26-2006, 10:02 AM
        • RamDez
          Bits From Rams Pre-Draft Luncheon
          by RamDez
          Just a few things from Charlie Armey and Lawrence McCutcheon, who answered questions Wednesday for the media. Mike Martz was not present due to limiting his work load after back surgery.


          Armey said he thought the best player in the draft is
          S. Carolina WR Troy Williamson, who he called a special talent that can't be covered.

          McCutcheon is very high on Georgia safety Thomas Davis, who he feels is a top ten talent. Armey also gave him glowing report.

          Armey said they will look first and foremost for an "impact" player in round one, and though he wasn't clear, he didn't rule out trading up in round one.

          Armey feels there will be a higher than usual number of trades on the first day, especially as the draft plays out.

          Martz is reported to like three mid to late round quarterbacks, particularly Ryan Fitzpatrick of Harvard. The others are a passer named Lane from Sam Houston State and another named Ochs who ended his college career at Montana.

          The Rams have done extensive background checks on former Ohio State RB Maurice Clarette, and he could be a guy they go after on day two as a result of their positive findings.

          Another player with question marks off the field that the Rams are very high on is Georgia LB Odell Thurman, who they feel is the best inside linebacker in the draft, and a guy they may take a shot at in round two if he is still on the board.

          Armey detailed their reports on the top three offensive tackles, and said all three should be able to start soon. He
          explained that Jammal Brown is more physical than the other two an can dominate the line of scrimmage. He also said they brought Brown in because of concern over his low wonderlich score, and also talked to academic advisors at Oklahoma about him. Armey pointed out that two Pro Bowl O-linemen last year had scores of 11 and 12 on the wonderlich when they came out.

          McCutcheon said Alex Barron, the top rated tackle, lacks the consistent effort that the other two first round tackles have shown.

          Armey said he feels there are some safeties after round one that are good prospects, including some who were cornerbacks in college that could move there.

          Armey discounted the effect that questions about "triangle numbers" could have on highly productive college players such as DE David Pollack, who he obviously loves. Armey also likes Michigan DB Marlin Jackson.

          Armey indicated the team will definitely be looking for players who could be top kick return specialists.

          Though Armey and the scouting staff will stack the draft board for the most part, Martz will have the final say among a handful of players that are graded equally on draft day.

          Armey indicated that it isn't out of the question for the Rams to draft a punter, if "it's the right punter".
          ...
          -04-23-2005, 12:26 AM
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