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    Coach Mike Martz told ESPN's Ed Werder on Monday night that if Turley needs to undergo a second disc surgery, he feared Turley might be lost for the entire season.

    Turley himself has expressed concern that another surgery might end his entire career.

    "It was a threat to my career last year," Turley said at the time of the injury in August. "For it to have possibly reoccurred is definitely a bigger threat."

    In March, Turley had surgery to repair the same disc.

    Turley, who has not practiced since Aug. 1, has seen a series of back specialists this summer. In the interim, the Rams have been treating the injury with anti-inflammatory drugs.

    Last year was Turley's first with the Rams and he started all 16 games. But he was bothered much of the year by pain in his hip that turned out to be a herniated disc.

    Turley said after he reinjured his back that he may have tried to do too much at the start of camp.

    "I think in general, being out here too early and going too hard too soon hurt me," Turley said. "A couple of plays in particular, you just get put in a bad position. It can happen to anybody at anytime, but I think I'm a little more vulnerable to it."

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    I sure hope that TURLEY can make it back and play this season. WE NEED HIM!!!!
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    • Nick
      Turley wants to play defense
      by Nick
      Offensive lineman asks Rams to switch him to defense
      By Brent Schrotenboer

      April 2, 2005

      St. Louis Rams offensive tackle Kyle Turley is planning a switch to defensive end this year a position he hasn't played since high school as long he can pass a physical exam and resume working relations with a head coach he won't forgive.

      Turley, a former standout at San Diego State, wants to switch to defensive end to relieve pressure on his back, a subject of controversy and much physical stress for Turley since December. Turley suffered from a herniated disc in preseason training camp and missed the entire 2004 season.

      "I need to play a position where I have more freedom to move around and get out of problem situations," Turley said yesterday by phone. "My back was injured on pass plays (on offense)."

      Turley said Rams General Manager Charlie Armey and operations chief Jay Zygmunt have given him the "we'll see" answer to his switch request. A call to the Rams office seeking comment was not immediately returned last night.

      In the last three months, Turley's weight dipped to 235 for the first time since his freshman year at SDSU. After working out in Tempe, Ariz., he has it back up to 260 with a target of 275. He was once up to 309.

      As a result, he said, he's going to be faster than ever and is feeling great about extending his career. A bigger question might be how he'll be received by head coach Mike Martz if he does. In December, Turley got into a shouting match with Martz after Turley said Martz questioned the seriousness of Turley's injury. Turley allegedly threatened to kill Martz a charge Turley denies.

      "There's definitely hard feelings," Turley said. "As far as I'm concerned, I don't have to forgive anybody. The things he said to me, I don't plan on forgetting."

      Turley said that from now on his relationship with Martz wil be: "He stays away from me, and I stay away from him."

      According to Turley, Martz said that Turley came to St. Louis "to take the money and run." Turley, 29, signed a six-year, $26.5 million contract after joining the Rams in 2003.

      "How do you say that to a guy who hasn't missed a down or a practice in six years and faces a serious, career-ending injury?" Turley asked.

      Turley, a former first-round draft pick in 1998, also said he's ditched many diet supplements in his quest to regain his health and weight. Instead of multivitamins, for example, he's sticking to a strict diet and nutritional shakes. His body fat rate is down from 10 percent to 8 percent.

      Turley had surgery on his back in March 2004 but didn't want to have more surgery last fall that could have further jeopardized his career.
      -04-03-2005, 10:05 PM
    • Nick
      Perhaps threatening people is nothing new for Turley
      by Nick
      I found this on the PD, and the person who posted this found it in the archives of the Rampagers newsgroup I belong to. It's from ESPN the Magazine, and while I'm not entirely sure on the issue, I suspect it's from March 2002, as that's the only issue that comes up in a search of Kyle Turley at the magazine's website.

      Kind of interesting, given current events, wouldn't you say?...
      -12-30-2004, 12:12 AM
    • thoey
      Turley and Martz Confrontation
      by thoey
      NFL security has questioned Rams coach Mike Martz and offensive tackle Kyle Turley over an incident where Turley allegedly threatened to kill Martz, ESPN's Chris Mortensen has learned.

      Tuesday, December 28, 2004 news services
      NFL security has questioned Rams coach Mike Martz and offensive tackle Kyle Turley over an incident where Turley allegedly threatened to kill Martz, ESPN's Chris Mortensen has learned.

      Martz and Turley allegedly engaged in a shouting match which resulted in Martz filing a report with NFL Security regarding the death threat, Mortensen is reporting.

      The argument began when Turley heard that Martz questioned the tackle's dedication to rehabbing his injured back and decided to confront the coach, Mortensen reports. Turley is on injured reserve after re-injuring his surgically repaired back early in training camp.

      For his part, Turley denies having threatened Martz. And on Tuesday evening, Martz issued a written statement through his agent, Frank Bauer, denying the report of a confrontation with Turley. "This story is absurd. It is offensive to Kyle Turley and Mike Martz. There is no truth to this story."

      Despite missing the entire season with back woes, Turley has said he wants to return for the 2005 season. The seven-year veteran, who has ruled out a second surgery to correct his back problem, has no plans for now of retiring.

      "Wanting to play has never been an issue," Turley said earlier this month. "I've given everything to this sport and dedicated myself to this, I think, as much, or in some cases more so, than most people. That's been the goal from Day One, to get back. To get back on the field."

      From the time his back began to flare up again early in training camp this summer, Turley insisted he would retire rather than face another surgery. He said doctors have apprised him that, with proper posture, increased core strength and additional flexibility, his back in time will compensate for the disc problem.

      How long that process will take, however, is not certain. Turley's goal is to be in camp but that aim might not be a realistic one.

      "But if it takes [until] the middle of next season, then so be it," he said. "Or if it takes even the year after that, I'm going to make it back. I'm 29 years old. There's time. I'm going to make it back and play in the league."

      Information from's Len Pasquarelli was used in this report
      -12-28-2004, 09:23 PM
    • Nick
      Turley is released after failing physical - PD
      by Nick
      Turley is released after failing physical
      By Bill Coats
      Of the Post-Dispatch
      Monday, Jun. 06 2005

      Kyle Turley won't be playing offensive tackle, tight end, defensive tackle or
      anything else for the Rams in 2005. Turley has failed a physical exam
      administered in Arizona, where he had been rehabbing the back injury that cost
      him the entire 2004 season, and has been released.

      Officially, Turley was designated as "waived - failed physical," which means
      the Rams owe him $250,000 but that the effect on the salary cap is the same as
      if he simply had been released. The "hit" is $1.82 million this year and $5.47
      million in 2006.

      Turley signed a six-year, $26.5 million deal with the Rams after he was
      acquired in a trade with New Orleans in March of 2003.

      Turley, 28, underwent surgery on a herniated disc in March of 2004 after
      starting all 16 games at right tackle the previous season, his first with the
      Rams. Turley reinjured his back early in training camp last July and was placed
      on the injured reserve list Aug. 28.

      Additional surgery was not performed, and Turley said in a recent interview
      with the Post-Dispatch that he had been training daily since early January at
      the Athletes Performance Institute in Tempe, Ariz. After dropping some 65
      pounds from his playing weight, down to 235, the 6-foot-5 Turley reported that
      he'd added about 30 pounds and hoped to play in the NFL this year.

      Still, Turley acknowledged that he probably couldn't add enough bulk to man an
      offensive line position this year, so he hinted that he'd be interested in a
      different position - perhaps tight end or defensive end.

      "As far as the team goes, I don't know what their thoughts are," he said.
      "Obviously, they signed a contract with me to play offensive line, and they
      don't know what I would do at another position. So, that's probably a big
      question in their mind. ...

      "(But) it might take another year possibly to continue putting the weight on,
      making it good weight, and not just going out and eating a bunch of Krispy
      Kreme doughnuts and burritos at 2 in the morning, to get back up to 300

      It probably never would've gotten that far with the Rams, particularly after
      Turley's well-publicized offseason clash with coach Mike Martz. Their rift
      began when Martz became irritated that Turley wasn't returning his phone calls
      after leaving training camp in Macomb, Ill., to seek evaluations of his back

      A conversation between the two in mid-December in Martz's Rams Park office
      escalated into a shouting match and ultimately led Martz to file a complaint...
      -06-07-2005, 01:57 AM
    • RamWraith
      Turleys back
      by RamWraith
      I wouldnt count on not seeing Turley next season. I really think you all are looking in the wrong direction on the draft. I really see Turley back at tackle giving us great depth on the line. Heath Miller will be the Rams first round coice.

      ------------NOW THE NEWS-------

      ESPN... Turley to return to rams
      BY . Len Pasquarelli

      Turley who missed the entire 2004 season with a torn ligement in his back will return to the rams for the 2005-2006 season. turley got hes weight back up to 300 pounds is expected to start at right takle next year. turley said in an interview that mike and himself has settled there disspute. turley said in no way did i ever threten mikes life, said there was a misunderstanding. and that he will be back next year to help take the rams back to the superbowl. when asked about the chance that the rams could draft jammal brown, turley said hey thats fine, he said he would be willing to move to RG, and let jammal brown take over the RT spot. turley said as long as we win games i would do what ever it takes.

      len pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for
      -04-17-2005, 06:54 AM