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    Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad
    By Jim Thomas
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Thursday, Aug. 26 2004

    Sixteen days from now, the Rams will be doing this for real. So it's time. Time for the first-string offense to score a touchdown. It has yet to do so this preseason.

    Time for the defense to come up with a turnover. It has yet to do so this preseason - first-string, second-string, or any-string.

    Time for the Rams to start sharpening their focus and honing their craft. Because the Sept. 12 regular-season opener against Arizona is right around the corner.

    "At this point, we need to come together as a team," coach Mike Martz said. "We've spent a lot of time here looking at these players."

    As individuals. But tonight against the visiting Washington Redskins, Martz says: "I want the (starters) to be sharp. When the first group's in there, I just want them to compete, and be sharp, and perform well."

    In other words, do everything they didn't do in Monday's 24-7 embarrassment at Kansas City. What went wrong against the Chiefs? A lot, according to Martz:

    "We made an inordinate amount of mental mistakes. ...

    "We didn't play with the enthusiasm and the pizzazz that we would expect us to. ...

    "We were disjointed. The calls didn't come in right. It looked like our first day of practice."

    Which is no way to be less than three weeks from opening day.

    "So we have to iron it out quick," offensive guard Chris Dishman said. "And I think we will."

    There's plenty to be ironed out, especially on offense in terms of pass protection, blitz pickup, and hot reads. On Monday, Kansas City blitzed 11 times in the first half. The Chiefs sent seven pass rushers three times, and six pass rushers on four occasions. On three blitzes, they sent both safeties at quarterback Marc Bulger.

    "Washington is going to come in with a similar defense," to Kansas City, Bulger said. "With a lot of pressure, and it will be another good test."

    It's a test the Rams' offense failed against Kansas City - and not just the offensive line.

    "We as an offense, as a whole, probably could've given it a better effort," running back Marshall Faulk said. "But we didn't. Thank God, it's the preseason and we get to work on it."

    Because of a quirky preseason schedule, the Rams get to work on it right away. Just four days after the Chiefs debacle, the Redskins come calling at 7 tonight at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Most NFL players need a day or two just to recover from the normal aches and pains of a game. This week, Rams players had Tuesday off, then had lighter than normal practices Wednesday and Thursday. And now, another game.

    "It'll be tough for them," Martz said.

    Most of the starters played the entire first half against Kansas City; and they'll be asked to do the same against Washington. But many of the team's skill position players were in for only one series against Chicago in the preseason opener Aug. 12. So they need the work.

    "We have faith in each other in the locker room right now, and we are not panicking by any stretch of the imagination," Bulger said. "We need to get better, and we know that will come. We are going to work to get it done sooner rather than later."

    Martz spent only two hours last week game-planning the Chiefs, a fraction of what he would do for a regular-season game. Given the short work week, it's doubtful he did more for Washington.

    The Rams didn't even watch the Kansas City game film as a team, although some players did so Tuesday on their own. There was simply no time. Instead, position coaches left comments on grade sheets for the players to examine. All things considered, maybe that was a good thing. Why dwell on a nightmare?

    "Winning is a habit," defensive lineman Tyoka Jackson said after the Chiefs game. "Good habits are formed on the practice field and in preseason games. And losing and bad habits are formed the same way.

    "We can't afford to play like that. That's just not who we are. ... We won't put on a performance like that again in front of our fans. That's unacceptable. It won't happen again."

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    Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

    Martz.Smartz...**rtz..

    This is football. I do not want pizzaz. I want to see grit and determination.

    One more reason why MM grates on me. He will be our bane.

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    • #3
      Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

      we need to come together as a team," coach Mike Martz said. "We've spent a lot of time here looking at these players."
      We made an inordinate amount of mental mistakes
      "We didn't play with the enthusiasm and the pizzazz that we would expect us to
      "We were disjointed. The calls didn't come in right. It looked like our first day of practice.
      "So we have to iron it out quick," offensive guard Chris Dishman said. "And I think we will."
      "We as an offense, as a whole, probably could've given it a better effort," running back Marshall Faulk said. "But we didn't. Thank God, it's the preseason and we get to work on it."
      "We have faith in each other in the locker room right now, and we are not panicking by any stretch of the imagination," Bulger said. "We need to get better, and we know that will come. We are going to work to get it done sooner rather than later."
      "We can't afford to play like that. That's just not who we are. ... We won't put on a performance like that again in front of our fans. That's unacceptable. It won't happen again."
      I've seen way too many "they"s and "them"s during this preseason. It's good to see the quotes becoming "we". It makes a difference.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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      • #4
        Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

        good, now fix it.

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        • #5
          Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

          All those Martz comments about the KC game and here I thought he didn't care about pre-season games; silly me.

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          • #6
            Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

            This is football. I do not want pizzaz. I want to see grit and determination.
            thats exactly what i would like to see on defense against he skins.... no more of this pussy footing zone BS ..... doubt we'll get it though

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            • #7
              Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

              Originally posted by NickSeiler(Cole)
              "We can't afford to play like that. That's just not who we are. ... We won't put on a performance like that again in front of our fans. That's unacceptable. It won't happen again."
              I said it on the duplicate thread so I'll echo it hear too ...

              "Last year I questioned his endorsement as a captain. This year a statement like this serves to satisfy me that he knows something about invective. The next question will be whether he can translate that sendiment into a cult following. Is this all he will have to say to inspire the troops into lock step? We will see what we will see."

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              • #8
                Re: Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad

                We won't put on a performance like that again in front of our fans. That's unacceptable. It won't happen again."
                It *@#*'n better not! :ramlogo:
                JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS
                :ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram:

                "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
                Adm. William "Bull" Halsey

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                • RamWraith
                  Battered Rams are eager to show they're not that bad
                  by RamWraith
                  By Jim Thomas
                  Of the Post-Dispatch
                  Thursday, Aug. 26 2004

                  Sixteen days from now, the Rams will be doing this for real. So it's time. Time
                  for the first-string offense to score a touchdown. It has yet to do so this
                  preseason.

                  Time for the defense to come up with a turnover. It has yet to do so this
                  preseason - first-string, second-string, or any-string.

                  Time for the Rams to start sharpening their focus and honing their craft.
                  Because the Sept. 12 regular-season opener against Arizona is right around the
                  corner.

                  "At this point, we need to come together as a team," coach Mike Martz said.
                  "We've spent a lot of time here looking at these players."

                  As individuals. But tonight against the visiting Washington Redskins, Martz
                  says: "I want the (starters) to be sharp. When the first group's in there, I
                  just want them to compete, and be sharp, and perform well."

                  In other words, do everything they didn't do in Monday's 24-7 embarrassment at
                  Kansas City. What went wrong against the Chiefs? A lot, according to Martz:

                  "We made an inordinate amount of mental mistakes. ...

                  "We didn't play with the enthusiasm and the pizzazz that we would expect us to.
                  ...

                  "We were disjointed. The calls didn't come in right. It looked like our first
                  day of practice."

                  Which is no way to be less than three weeks from opening day.

                  "So we have to iron it out quick," offensive guard Chris Dishman said. "And I
                  think we will."

                  There's plenty to be ironed out, especially on offense in terms of pass
                  protection, blitz pickup, and hot reads. On Monday, Kansas City blitzed 11
                  times in the first half. The Chiefs sent seven pass rushers three times, and
                  six pass rushers on four occasions. On three blitzes, they sent both safeties
                  at quarterback Marc Bulger.

                  "Washington is going to come in with a similar defense," to Kansas City, Bulger
                  said. "With a lot of pressure, and it will be another good test."

                  It's a test the Rams' offense failed against Kansas City - and not just the
                  offensive line.

                  "We as an offense, as a whole, probably could've given it a better effort,"
                  running back Marshall Faulk said. "But we didn't. Thank God, it's the preseason
                  and we get to work on it."

                  Because of a quirky preseason schedule, the Rams get to work on it right away.
                  Just four days after the Chiefs debacle, the Redskins come calling at 7 tonight
                  at the Edward Jones Dome.

                  Most NFL players need a day or two just to recover from the normal aches and ...
                  -08-27-2004, 04:50 AM
                • RamWraith
                  Rams' goal vs. Chiefs: Stay healthy, claim Cup
                  by RamWraith
                  By Jim Thomas
                  Of the Post-Dispatch
                  09/01/2005


                  Nothing is so meaningless for many, but so meaningful for the few, as the final game of the preseason.

                  Coaches always pull back on playing their starters, not wanting to risk injury so close to the regular season. This is particularly true for the Rams because they will be playing their second game in 96 hours tonight, when they close out the preseason against Kansas City at the Edward Jones Dome.

                  "It's tough, coming off a game like that this soon," Martz said.

                  According to Martz, it could have been worse.

                  "Originally, they had this as a Thursday game," he said. "Can you imagine that? I think playing a Monday night game in the third preseason game is very difficult to do."

                  The Rams had only two practices this week, neither of which was in full pads. Thursday's workout lasted only about 70 minutes.

                  "You have to take care of them in that respect," Martz said.

                  Martz will take the prudent approach into tonight's game with the Chiefs as well. If the starters didn't look so sharp in Monday's 37-13 victory in Detroit, he might be tempted to play them longer.

                  But after the Rams' impressive performance at Ford Field, their goal is to play hard tonight, but leave healthy. And then get ready for San Francisco, the Rams' opponent in the regular-season opener Sept. 11.

                  "If we had to play our starters, this would be brutal," Martz said. "Fortunately, we don't have to do that. I think we're far enough along as a team right now that we can take a look at all these other guys here.

                  "I wouldn't expect that we'd play (the starters) much at all. They'll have to play some, obviously, but not much. We're going to be very selective in terms of who plays."

                  The Rams did a fair amount of game-planning for Detroit last week, at least by preseason standards. But that wasn't the case for Kansas City in this extra-short work week.

                  "We did nothing for Kansas City," Martz said. "Nothing. So whatever happens, happens. We just hope that (Rams players) can sort things out well enough, and so be it.

                  "The Chiefs are enough like us on offense. Their running game's a little different. And defensively, they're a 4-3 defense. So coverages are relatively similar to us."

                  With final cuts looming Sunday, the almost-annual Governor's Cup game does have importance to bubble players. Twelve more Rams must be cut to reach the 53-man roster limit, so for some, tonight might be their last crack at NFL football.

                  "It's an important game for a lot of guys," Martz said. "They need to kind of define themselves in their role on this team this year. Or whether they'll be on this team."
                  ...
                  -09-02-2005, 04:26 AM
                • RamWraith
                  The goal: no more disasters for Rams
                  by RamWraith
                  By Jim Thomas
                  Of the Post-Dispatch
                  Wednesday, Sep. 01 2004

                  OAKLAND, Calif. - Speaking for the defense, and the team's defensive leaders,
                  Tyoka Jackson promised it wouldn't happen again. There would be no more
                  debacles like the 24-7 pratfall in Kansas City on Aug. 23.

                  And it didn't happen. The Rams came out four days later with an impressive
                  defensive effort in a 28-3 victory over Washington.

                  "We had a players-only (meeting) in our defensive room," Jackson said. "Aeneas
                  (Williams) and Leonard (Little) made it be known how we're going to play this
                  year. And it wasn't like (Kansas City)."

                  Players-only meetings during the season are rare enough; players-only meetings
                  in the preseason are almost unheard of. But Jackson and other defensive
                  veterans felt the meeting was necessary to make sure evenings like Aug. 23
                  don't occur again. At the meeting, the importance of getting mentally prepared
                  to play - preseason or not - was stressed.

                  "For some guys, it's tougher to get excited than others," Jackson said. "But
                  like Aeneas said, whatever you do to get yourself ready, do it. If you like to
                  jump around and scream, do that. If you like to put your headphones on, do
                  that.

                  "Because there's just not enough Sundays, and enough games, to go out there and
                  play like we played against Kansas City. You only get so many opportunities."

                  With that in mind, tonight marks the Rams' last opportunity to polish up their
                  game in the preseason. And it's the last opportunity for numerous bubble
                  players to impress the coaching staff.

                  Momentum, even at this time of the year, can be important for a football team.
                  The Rams would like nothing better than to finish the exhibition season 2-2
                  with a victory over the Oakland Raiders at Network Associates Coliseum - aka
                  the Black Hole. Kickoff is 9 p.m. St. Louis time.

                  "Getting the Washington win was very important, because I think it's tough
                  going through the whole preseason with no wins," offensive guard Adam Timmerman
                  said. "And it was just more fun. You could tell. Guys seemed like they were
                  having fun."

                  Quarterback Marc Bulger said, "I know last week, it was definitely a different
                  feeling coming in here (to work) after the game. You just have that momentum. A
                  win would be nice. It's not going to be the end of the world if we don't. But
                  for the younger guys, and even for some of the older guys, it's nice just to
                  have that feeling going into the regular season."

                  Plus, it will be an even longer flight back to St. Louis if the Rams don't play
                  well.

                  "You...
                  -09-02-2004, 05:20 AM
                • RamWraith
                  Martz taking no chances with starters
                  by RamWraith
                  Martz taking no chances with starters
                  BY STEVE KORTE
                  News-Democrat

                  ST. LOUIS - Even with the Governor's Cup trophy at stake, the St. Louis Rams' preseason game against the Kansas City Chiefs at 7 p.m. today at the Edward Jones Dome will be the NFL equivalent of a junior varsity game.

                  Don't expect either team to play its starters much more than a series or two.

                  "We're going to protect our starters in this last preseason game," Rams coach Mike Martz said. "You have to. Only a fool wouldn't do that."

                  The Rams' starting offensive line might see a little more action than the rest of the starters because Martz wants to give the unit, which was missing right guard Adam Timmerman and left guard Tom Nutten for the first two preseason games, some more time to jell.

                  "To some extent, they still need to play a little bit," Martz said. "Our offensive lineman still haven't played long enough together to start the season. Adam still needs to play a good quarter probably."

                  Rams right tackle Ryan Tucker, who played left guard throughout his previous six seasons in the NFL with the Chicago Bears, was planning to play as much as the coaching staff allows.

                  "I expect to play as long as possible," Tucker said. "If it's less, that's great. I'm preparing myself to play the whole game."

                  Martz said the Rams will use the game to take a long look at some of the players trying to make the team's final 53-man roster.

                  All NFL teams must trim their rosters from 65 players to 53 players by 3 p.m. Sunday.

                  "This is a great opportunity for some of these guys who will make this team, and some that will not, to expose themselves to the whole National Football League, to have an opportunity to play, and fill out a resume, if you will," Martz said. "It's very important for these guys to play and play well."

                  Some of the players in the spotlight will be tight end Jerome Collins, quarterback Jeff Smoker, running backs Arlen Harris and Aveion Cason, fullback Morgan Hedgecock, wide receiver Jeremy Carter and safeties Michael Stone and Oshiomogho Atogwe.

                  The Rams (2-1) had their dress rehearsal for their Sept. 11 season opener against the San Francisco ***** on Monday night as they beat the Lions 37-13.

                  The Rams had only two days of practice to get ready for their game against the Chiefs.

                  "It is tough," Martz said. "They originally had this (game) as a Thursday game, can you imagine that? I think playing a Monday night game in the third preseason game is very difficult to do. You're at risk in that last game. You have fatigued guys, so you have to protect your starters."

                  Martz said the Rams studied no game film of the Chiefs to get ready for the game.
                  ...
                  -09-02-2005, 10:31 AM
                • RamDez
                  KC keeps Governor's Cup with rout of Rams
                  by RamDez
                  KC keeps Governor's Cup with rout of Rams
                  By Jim Thomas
                  Of the Post-Dispatch
                  Tuesday, Aug. 24 2004

                  KANSAS CITY - Quarterback Marc Bulger looked skittish and out of sync in the
                  pocket. The Rams' defense forgot to pack its pass rush; it remained in storage
                  Monday somewhere at Rams Park.

                  Even with Kansas City's second-team offensive line in the game, the Chiefs
                  played road-grader on the Rams' defensive front seven. If that weren't enough,
                  starting cornerback Travis Fisher appears to be out for the season with a
                  fractured right forearm he suffered in the first quarter.

                  Other than that, things went absolutely peachy for the Rams in a 24-7 loss to
                  Kansas City in the Governor's Cup game at Arrowhead Stadium. Sure it was the
                  preseason. But based on what took place in the first half - when the regulars
                  for both teams were on the field - the Rams should be charged with two losses.
                  It was that bad.

                  "The bottom line is we didn't do our job tonight," Bulger said. "I didn't do my
                  job and I'm not going to make any excuses. Preseason or not, to lose like that.
                  ... I guess it was a little embarrassing."

                  Well, more than a little.

                  "All I can think about is how bad a performance we had, especially our first
                  defense and the guys who play early," defensive captain Tyoka Jackson said.
                  "That's not good enough. It's simply not good enough."

                  The Chiefs went 76 yards on their first possession for a touchdown. They
                  marched 55 yards on their third possession for another TD. By the time the Rams
                  even crossed midfield, Kansas City had a 17-0 lead.

                  And even that venture in Chiefs territory turned out sour. Because on a
                  second-and-10 play from the Chiefs 40, a Bulger pass intended for Arlen Harris
                  against a blitzing KC defense was intercepted by linebacker Shawn Barber.
                  Barber returned the ball 60 yards for a TD, giving the Chiefs a 24-0 lead with
                  1 minute 8 seconds to play in the first half.

                  Outgained 200 yards to 68 in the first half, the Rams would have boarded a
                  plane and returned to St. Louis right then if allowed. Unfortunately for the
                  Rams, that wasn't an option.

                  "I did a very poor job getting this football team ready to play," coach Mike
                  Martz said. "This is my fault as a head coach. We came out here and flopped
                  around and acted like we didn't know where we were.

                  "And that's a coaching issue. Always is. Always will be. You can blame the
                  players, but that's my responsibility. That won't happen again. We'll make sure
                  these guys are ready to play."

                  Even when things appeared to go right, they went bad for Rams, now 0-2 this
                  preseason and losers of...
                  -08-24-2004, 01:15 AM
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