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    -I'm concerned about our running game with Marshall Faulk in the backfield. I'd feel much better about the offense with Jackson in the backfield, if only because he seems to be able to pick up some yards. Marshall looks hesitant and seems to have lost any explosiveness he may have had. At least with Jackson he'll hit a hole and shed the initial tackle, plus some of his cutbacks looked great. He's really impressed me thus far in the preseason.

    -Overall, I think Marc Bulger looked good tonight. On the first drive, I thought he did well. The second drive, well, he missed three receivers completely. Not impressive. The third drive was magic, IMO. He missed Curtis on what looked like a miscommunication, but was rock solid from there. Bulger's gotta have more accuracy on those open passes. There's no excuse for not being able to hit a wide open Holt for a gain of 20+. But I think looking at the entire game, he looked good tonight.

    -Chandler's deep pass to Holt on the post... I think I shed a tear. It was like God was singing. It seems obvious that Chandler's more comfortable and accurate than Bulger is right now. Both have had their miscues, but Chandler has looked more accurate and more decisive. I have to wonder what role (1) his veteran experience and (2) the defenses he's going against play in this, though. I wasn't impressed by the deep pass that was intercepted. Way too much air under the ball, I thought. But that floater to McDonald in stride for the touchdown was a thing of beauty.

    -Speaking of McDonald, he and Curtis are really coming into their own this preseason. I'm very excited about what the two of these guys will be able to do for the offense. Both of them look pretty speedy with great sets of hands.

    -The blocking was much better this evening. Looked like the blitzes were being picked up well (I remember Goodspeed picking up a great inside rush), but I think the dreams of having Tercero at right tackle need to end NOW. The only memories I have about him for the game was whiffing on a rush that got Bulger sacked on the first drive, and a false start penalty. Move him back into the interior, I say, because he didn't look good as a tackle at all in my opinion. Furthermore, it wasn't that great to see Nutten leave the game with an injury. This was a concern when he decided to retire from the Jets, right? Not a good sign to see it so shortly after his coming back on the field.

    -Defensively, I loved what we did with our first unit. Bryce Fisher was ALL OVER THE FIELD, or so it seemed. Pisa Tinoisamoa looks like a leader on defense. He had a couple of nice tackles and a great hit early in the game. Robert Thomas had a nice play where he penetrated into the backfield and tackled Portis for a loss. I thought our run defense was improved by 200%, but I'm not convinced whether we played better pass defense or Ramsey just struggled out there. He's been unimpressive this year so I can't really credit the pass defense too much. I think the roughing the passer penalty on Lewis was [email protected]#%, as was the overruled challenge on the Bulger/Holt third down pass.

    -I'm not any more secure about Kevin Garrett after tonight. I didn't pay as close attention as I should have, but he didn't seem to be as efficient as a defender as he was against KC. He got flat-out beat on that one pass where he forced the fumble, and I don't think he would have caught the receiver had Aeneas not been flanking the guy and forced him to slow down a bit. I guess it's good Garrett is getting this experience now, because he'll need it when the season starts.

    -Would it be at all possible for the Rams to get some good field position on a kickoff? Our kickoff coverage looked much improved, but I think we really need to get some better field position to start drives. It doesn't help the offense when they're starting half their drives inside their own 25.

    I think that about covers it. I probably missed some stuff, but that's all I could remember when writing this. As always, opinions are welcome and appreciated.

  • #2
    Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

    Originally posted by NickSeiler
    -I'm concerned about our running game with Marshall Faulk in the backfield. I'd feel much better about the offense with Jackson in the backfield, if only because he seems to be able to pick up some yards. Marshall looks hesitant and seems to have lost any explosiveness he may have had. At least with Jackson he'll hit a hole and shed the initial tackle, plus some of his cutbacks looked great. He's really impressed me thus far in the preseason.
    Ditto, I told you all you would be impressed with Jackson and that Faulk is seemingly on his last legs.





    Originally posted by NickSeiler
    -Defensively, I loved what we did with our first unit. Bryce Fisher was ALL OVER THE FIELD, or so it seemed.
    I agree and I was also impressed with Bryce. Losing wistrom looks to be no big deal, except for the cap hit in seattle...lol





    Originally posted by NickSeiler
    I think the roughing the passer penalty on Lewis was [email protected]#%, as was the overruled challenge on the Bulger/Holt third down pass.
    Uh, I think it was a late hit and Kollar looked pissed at Lewis. The refs usually try to establish this during preseason. Shortly after that, I think our first series, a skins defender rolled up on Bulger and twisted him down by the knee long after the ball was released. Bulger got up limping, and of course, there was no flag.

    I thought the overrule on the challenge was BS. The refs originally stated Holt did not have control of the ball before going out of bounds. There was no mention that he did not get his feet down. Then after the replay they say it's the feet. I'm not sure what exactly was ruled on the field and what was challenged. Either way, it looked like Holt did drag the foot.





    Originally posted by NickSeiler
    -Would it be at all possible for the Rams to get some good field position on a kickoff?
    It would seem that one can only hope!!





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    • #3
      Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

      Please save the I told you for the season not the preseason. I think one of the better PRE SEASON players is WR Darrius Watts..... All we can hope for is that the Rams get a little work and come away healthy.....

      When has Faulk ever been impressive in the preseason wearing a Rams uniform????

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      • #4
        Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

        Just like guys got way to down after being thumped by KC, so too we should not get way up because we beat a suspect team.

        But winnin is always better than losin. :-)

        I think the OL did great in pass protection, but only average with run blocking.

        Bulger looked great at times, and horrible at others. He reminds me of the Bulger of last year. I would have hoped that he would have become more consistent BY NOW. It's not as if he's brand new at the position.

        Chandler looked better than Bulger. If it weren't for his injury history I'd prefer him to start.

        We have the best corps of WRs in the league!

        The DL looked mediocre at best. The LBs looked great. The DBs looked capable.

        Jackson does move the pile forward and I think we all saw some great potential out there. I'm kinda excited thinkin about what he can become when he gets more experience and confidence.

        It was sickening to see the Refs suck again with that blown call, even after the review. NFL referring has sucked the last couple of years. It doesn't make me feel good about future prospects - if they can blow a call as easy as that....

        Yeah, Tercero may not be the guy we want on the end.... shades of St. Clair and upcoming sacks and injuries.

        Remember, we are not out of the woods yet. This was only preseason. The German's bombing of Pearl Harbor didn't end WW1, neither did our victory at Gettysburg end WW2.

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        • #5
          Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

          I second what crazy said. When has Faulk ever been himself in pre season? And I also will go forward and say if Faulk is so suspect due to his poor pre season play and you guys feel that Jackson is the second coming then shall we not say the same about Chandler? Bulger looks bad as well and Chandler looks great.

          Stay consistent Gents.

          Reborn

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          • #6
            Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

            So do ya'll agree that we should have Scott working at left gaurd, an what about Greg Randell?

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            • #7
              Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

              Scott should be at left guard and Grant williams will be moving over to RT come the season....


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              • #8
                Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                Thanks for the synopsis of the game folks. I was all set to enjoy it on my local FOX station...but the *******s aired the NAUSEATING VIqueens game instead. At least I can look forward to the Raider game being shown on NFL NET.
                "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana

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                • #9
                  Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                  Originally posted by CRAZYHORNS
                  Please save the I told you for the season not the preseason. I think one of the better PRE SEASON players is WR Darrius Watts..... All we can hope for is that the Rams get a little work and come away healthy.....

                  When has Faulk ever been impressive in the preseason wearing a Rams uniform????
                  Originally posted by Reborn
                  I second what crazy said. When has Faulk ever been himself in pre season? And I also will go forward and say if Faulk is so suspect due to his poor pre season play and you guys feel that Jackson is the second coming then shall we not say the same about Chandler? Bulger looks bad as well and Chandler looks great.

                  Stay consistent Gents.
                  There were many complaints from Rams fans after Jackson was drafted. I watched Jackson play at OSU several times over the last two seasons and I thought he would be a very good NFL RB. I said shortly after the draft that I thought Rams fans would be impressed when they got a chance to see him on the field. I think I'm being consistent with my recent statement. I guess, in other words, you guys are telling me you are not impressed with Jackson?

                  As far as Faulk goes, I said he was seemingly on his last legs. He looks like he did last season through the first three regular season games. It was revealed after week three, when he broke his hand, at seattle, that his knee was not right and he took the time to undergo another knee surgery. Faulk has looked better in past pre-seasons. Sure he has never played extensively during pre-season, but he has looked better. Besides that, it's not like he is getting any younger and he does not look rejuvenated, as Martz claimed, earlier in the offseason. I'm still holding out hope that Faulk will be himself, he does know the offense inside and out, but it is also nice to see that Jackson is showing that he is capable.




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                  • #10
                    Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                    Originally posted by Ferter
                    Uh, I think it was a late hit and Kollar looked pissed at Lewis. The refs usually try to establish this during preseason. Shortly after that, I think our first series, a skins defender rolled up on Bulger and twisted him down by the knee long after the ball was released. Bulger got up limping, and of course, there was no flag.
                    I don't think it was late. I think it was perhaps a second after the pass, and I wouldn't expect a 300 lb defensive lineman pursuing the QB to be able to pull up in time at that point.

                    I think you bring up a good point though. Lewis gets called for roughing this week and Jackson last week while Bulger is a fair target for defenses. There's a lot of inconsistency in these calls.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                      I also feel that Jackson will be our future Fert. I just have an odd feeling that Faulk is going to surprise quite a few people this year.

                      Has Faulk ever been challenged like this? It will be interesting to see how he responds. I hope he finds the greatness for at least one more season. It will have even a bigger impact on Jackson then if he has to take the reins so early on.

                      Reborn

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                      • #12
                        Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                        Originally posted by NickSeiler
                        I don't think it was late. I think it was perhaps a second after the pass, and I wouldn't expect a 300 lb defensive lineman pursuing the QB to be able to pull up in time at that point.

                        I think you bring up a good point though. Lewis gets called for roughing this week and Jackson last week while Bulger is a fair target for defenses. There's a lot of inconsistency in these calls.
                        Yeah, I know what you're saying, but the refs expect them to be able to pull up. Like I said, I think it had a lot to do with it being a pre-season game and the refs trying to establish protecting the QBs. Either way, I will say it was a close call. I agree, the refs don't seem to be very consistent with that type of call, even during the regular season.



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                        • #13
                          Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                          Originally posted by Reborn
                          I also feel that Jackson will be our future Fert. I just have an odd feeling that Faulk is going to surprise quite a few people this year.

                          Has Faulk ever been challenged like this? It will be interesting to see how he responds. I hope he finds the greatness for at least one more season. It will have even a bigger impact on Jackson then if he has to take the reins so early on.

                          Reborn
                          I'm not sure that he has, Reborn. I too hope he steps up and meets the challenge. Good point about Jackson taking on the load during his rookie year. Certainly he does not know the offense as well as Faulk.

                          It will be interesting to see how Martz reacts if Faulk comes out of the gate slowly.....;)



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                          • #14
                            Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                            Originally posted by NickSeiler
                            I think the roughing the passer penalty on Lewis was [email protected]#%
                            Hey, I just thought of something about that play. Wasn't that a line stunt? Bryce Fisher rushed inside and Lewis came around the end on that play. I'm not sure it was designed that way, but I'm thinking it was. Anyways, it was nice to see. Seems we never saw much stunting, on the D-line, with Lovie's schemes.



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                            • #15
                              Re: Random Thoughts on Tonight

                              Overall everyone looked better. I'm not really all that concerned with Marshall at this point, I think we have other areas that should be of more concern, especially with Jackson playing as well as he has.

                              Bulger looked better, but he has to get used to the blitzes because it's become cleat that that's his weakness. A few times he got hurried and pushed the ball into tough spots.

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                              • moklerman
                                Thoughts on the first preseason game...
                                by moklerman
                                I just got back from a week long road trip so this review is a little late, but thanks to TIVO I was able to watch the game.

                                Obviously Steven Jackson is looking good and was the brightest spot of the game for the Rams. The defense wasn't too bad and looked at least as good as they did last year. The pass rush doesn't look like it will be effected too badly by the loss of Wistrom.

                                Kevin Curtis looked awful. I figured coming off the broken leg he would have to deal with getting back up to game speed, but apparently the injury to his leg effected his hands more than anything. I was pretty disappointed in his performance and thought McDonald, although not perfect, took advantage of his many opportunites to show what he can do. Looker had a fumble and I'm starting to get the impression that he may not be strong enough for the NFL. I like his guts but he seems to lose the ball a lot for the few times that he gets his hands on it. I really thought he was going to be a Ricky Proehl clone, but that is a stretch in my mind at this point and takes away from how good Ricky really is.

                                Smoker looked like a rookie and was pretty unimpressive in his first live action. He threw a couple of good balls but overall looked like another Joe Germaine to me. He doesn't have a cannon and just isn't ready for the pro's yet. I'm beginning to wonder what a strong armed qb might accomplish in this offense. Obviously Martz likes to go with cerebral qb's but I would like to see a guy who can gun it rather than just throw to spots.

                                Chandler, behind Jackson and McDonald, was the other highlight of the evening. He looked nimble as well as throwing the ball well. Good accuracy and good arm strength to go along with an apparent comfort level with the offense. Being prone to injury is obviously a big detractor but if he continues to play well he might actually be a better option than Bulger.

                                Speaking of Bulger, he looked rusty to me. Actually he looked like he picked up where he left off last year but I'll chalk it up to rust at this point. He had a few good throws but also some not so good throws. Again, just a continuation of last year to me. He needs to become more consistent with his throws. I don't know exactly why he can thread the needle on one throw and then throw a yard and a half behind the receiver on the next. He still needs work. The offense looked a little sluggish with Bulger and seemed to pick it up with Chandler and that's not a good sign to me either. Playcalling, personnel and opposing defense are all factors so we'll see if this continues in future games.

                                All in all, the team looked a lot like last year's team which is good and bad. The interem o-line looked good and the offense should be better when Pace, Faulk and Turley start to play. The defense was sufficient but not dominating and the special teams gave up another crucial play. It's just preseason...
                                -08-18-2004, 11:14 AM
                              • evil disco man
                                My Thoughts...
                                by evil disco man
                                On the game tonight.

                                - The team seemed genuinely enthusiastic despite their lackluster performance against the Chiefs and only a three-day break.

                                - Once again the Rams burned all their timeouts fairly early, but the call by the officials on the Challenge was bullcrap.

                                - Torry Holt was okay, I guess.

                                - The offensive line was surprisingly stout. They showed flashes of good run blocking early on and gradually got better as the game went on. The pass blocking was, for the most part, solid. Scott Tercero was horrible at right tackle as usual, Tom Nutten was unfortunately injured soon after he came in, and Chris Dishman was very slow on his pulls, but he's a big fella.

                                - I watched Brandon Manumaleuna as he pulled around to block for Marshall on one play, which looked like it would be a good gain, and he completely whiffed on his block.

                                - Isaac Bruce was Isaac Bruce.

                                - Marshall Faulk (as if I need to say his last name) was solid, but didn't show me anything to prove he hasn't lost a step.

                                - Steven Jackson seemed to get quicker and more consistent as the game went on. He carried the team on his shoulders moving downfield on a drive in the fourth. His strength along with his ability to read blocks and react impressed me greatly.

                                - Arlen Harris looks to be the same as last year. Boring, slow, but solid, especially for a fourth running back. Same with Dane Looker, minus the "slow" part (maybe?).

                                - Shaun McDonald and Kevin Curtis looked supremely superb. McDonald was quick, fluid, and breaking tackles while Curtis made an amazing catch that was called back (holding) and displayed blazing speed. Those shin splints are a thing of the past, methinks. At this point, Shaun seems to be leading the race for the slot position. I loved the play where he took the handoff as he was motioning across the field and took it around the corner for a first down.

                                - Bulger was off-mark on a couple passes as usual, but gave fans some optimism with his impressive play. Chandler was smart, accurate, and efficient as usual. He started off a bit slow (5/10 100 some yards and a pick) but tore it up the Skins' defense later on.

                                - Hell, even Jeff Smoker looked pretty good. His first pass was a beauty. As he turned around to roll out, he was met face-to-face with a Redskins defender, but immediately flipped the ball out for a nice completion.

                                - Erik Jensen dropped a pass that landed right in his cradle.

                                - The defensive line was better than I expected. Leonard made a couple plays, Bryce Fisher was efficient at right end, Erik Flowers was in on a lot of plays, and all three were making tackles against the run. Damione Lewis showed good pass rushing abilities on his late hit (&@%$!). The tackles overall seemed to hold their ground and even clogged the middle (gasp!) on...
                                -08-27-2004, 09:26 PM
                              • Nick
                                Thoughts on Tonight's Game
                                by Nick
                                Again, I'm not one to base my life savings on preseason games. But some of the things I saw tonight worry me.

                                Offensively...

                                -Wow, the first team offense looked confused out there. First of all, the offensive line. I think I could count on one hand the number of times I saw adequate blocking either for a pass or run play. We really miss Pace, and it doesn't look like anyone is really stepping up. All anyone has to do is blitz and the line folds like Swiss.

                                -Bulger looked bad. He was lucky to actually have time to throw most of the time, but some of his throws just looked off-target. He and Isaac couldn't hook up on the first drive (although I liked that 17-yard out later in the half), and he gunned that slant to Looker a bit too hard. He looked out of synch and rattled, understandably because of the pressure but still... and held onto the ball too long on some plays. Looked like he didn't even see Barber coming from midfield on that interception.

                                -Faulk showed a cutback here or there and looked quick, but didn't do much that I could see. With this line and the blocking we have, Jackson looks much better at this point. He can shed the first guy and gain a couple after that. Given what this line has showed us so far, we may be forced to depend on that.

                                -Chandler looked okay but not as sharp as he did against the Bears. Nearly got picked twice on two bad throws (one was probably penalty worthy on the Chiefs DB). Looks like he was suffering from some of the same O-line problems Bulger faced in the first half, but I don't think Chris was being blitzed as much, though.

                                -Kevin Curtis looks like he's answering McDonald's performance last game. He's had some nice grabs and has me optimistic about our depth at wide receiver.

                                -Just saw the line give up a sack on a three man rush, and not because Chandler was holding onto the ball too long. This is embarassing. SIGN PACE NOW!!!

                                -Smoker fumbled the snap. Ugh. Smoker's pass gets stolen by a KC defensive back. Double ugh. Smoker throws into double coverage and would have been intercepted had the DB come down in bounds. Ugh to the third power. On the bright side, I saw Smoker hit a number of guys... that were wide open. I guess that's better than whiffing on some.


                                Defensively...

                                -We can't stop the run to save our life. It's that simple. I don't know what they have to do, but it seemed like our lineman couldn't get off their blocks, and I saw Tommy Polley being taken out of a play by Dante freakin' Hall. DANTE HALL!!! He weighs 100 pounds wet. No wonder Polley's been demoted.

                                -Our defensive line has had some problems tackling the quarterback. Little looked like he was in a practice mindset by whiffing on Trent Green early in the game. When Tyoka did get to the QB, he was called for a bogus penalty. Other than that, the D-line hasn't impressed...
                                -08-23-2004, 08:49 PM
                              • RAMMAN68
                                Game Thoughts
                                by RAMMAN68
                                I thought the team played good as a whole considering it was the first pre-season game.

                                The defense made some nice plays especially the first play of the game. I thought Carriker was as advertised, and will only get better. I saw solid tackling, and better coverage. Todd Johnson is a solid addition, he had a couple of nice hits.

                                I was very impressed with Brian Leonard, he is going to make some clutch plays this season. He kind of reminds me of Mike Guman; (Guuuuuu!). The starting O line looked solid, it was good to see McCollum back and holding his own. Bennett looked faster than I thought and made some nice catches.

                                The special teams looked a lot better than it has, they still need some work, but it was refreshing to see some solid hits on coverage, and a few positive returns.

                                There is still a long way to go, but I feel very positive going into the season. Hopefully, things well continue to improve. :l
                                -08-10-2007, 09:51 PM
                              • RamDez
                                RamView
                                by RamDez
                                , August 12, 2005
                                From Row HH
                                (Report and opinions from the game.)
                                Preseason Game #1: Rams 17, Bears 13

                                Mike Martz's goal for tonight was to see the Rams' young players in real game situations, and he got his wish. Not only that, but from players like Brandon Green, Claude Terrell and Ron Bartell, not to mention Steven Jackson, the coach and Rams fans should have liked a lot of what they saw in the Rams' victory.

                                Position by position:
                                * QB: Please tell me I'm not going to have to worry about Marc Bulger (3-5-38) throwing the ball to the wrong team all season. He played a quarter and threw two picks in the same possession, one, of course, called back for a defensive penalty. That pick was a dumb forced pass that Brandon Manumaleuna may not have been expecting. The second pick was even worse, a terrible pass intended for Isaac Bruce but a mile over his head and picked off by Charles Tillman at the goal line. Another failed drive in scoring territory for Bulger. He did hit Bruce and Torry Holt a total of 3 times for all 38 yards, and was under big pressure from a makeshift offensive line, so he's got some slack this week. But the ball needs to quit going to the other team, Marc. Saw a lot to like out of Jamie Martin (12-19-143). Mike Martz called the ideal offense for him lots of plays with short drops and opportunities for him to get the ball out quick. At the same time, Jamie showed tons of poise in the pocket, throwing a lot of his completions a split second before being hit. And they weren't all dumpoffs; Martin threw a lot of medium-range passes and showed a pretty good arm for it. Martin played a quarter-plus and drove the Rams to both their TDs. Ryan Fitzpatrick (2-6-26) followed for a quarter and seemed to show good pocket poise and decision-making, but all I can really tell you about the guy so far is his arm's not very strong and he likes to call timeouts. Jeff Smoker (1-1-9) was the #4 QB, a first for Martz in a preseason game, but he threw only one pass and nearly committed a critical turnover on a blown exchange from center late in the game.

                                * RB: We all know Arlen Harris (9-27) is Martz's pet player for whatever reason, but he looks faster after losing last season's fullback weight, and he showed some of that tenacious running tonight he showed a couple of years ago in Pittsburgh. He appears to be ahead of Aveion Cason (6-7), who didn't get much of anywhere as the 4th tailback. Marshall Faulk (2-minus 2) was only in for a couple of plays. I'm expecting all this cool Martz-mad-scientist stuff when Marshall's in the game, and what do we get the first time Marshall touches the ball? One of those stupid delay inside handoffs that lost four yards every time the Rams ran it last year. And I believe it lost four yards. And, of course, there's Steven Jackson (7-47), who's starting to look like a breakout player. He showed excellent speed around the corner on an early...
                                -08-13-2005, 12:17 PM
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