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    Alright, for 4 years now we've had opinions flying back and forth about whether Mike Martz is the right person to be the Rams Head Coach. Some say "Yes" and anything else would be preposterous. Others say "No" and anything else would be moronic.

    So this thread is dedicated to this simple question: Who is the best head coach for the Rams?

    Pick any coach you want. The only limitation is they have to be alive, no Lombardi, Landry or Bryant.

    We've heard a lot of the negative voices around our coaching staff, well now's the opportunity to stand up and make it right. So who's it going to be?
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  • #2
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    For me, I'm sticking with Martz. Yes, he frustrates me and he has several deficiencies as a coach, but for our personnel and system, I can't see anyone else doing a better job.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    • #3
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      Mike Martz ...................... but then we have done this to death and he won then as well

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      • #4
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        Hands down Martz.

        He makes mistakes but who doesn't?

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        • #5
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          When is the last time Parcells, Bellichick,Vermiel, Reid etc.etc MISMANAGED game situations the way this DOLT does on a REPEATED BASIS??? It will NEVER end...he CLEARLY doesnt have the mental capacity to make the sound decision UNDER FIRE. The guy is flatly the LEAGUE LAUGHING STOCK when it comes to clock/time out management. Fine OC...PATHETIC HC.
          "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by RamDez
            Mike Martz ...................... but then we have done this to death and he won then as well
            You're right, but I just wanted to see if any of the "Martz must die" contingency had an actual solution to what they see as our catastrophic problem at the helm.
            The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Fargo Ram Fan
              When is the last time Parcells, Bellichick,Vermiel, Reid etc.etc MISMANAGED game situations the way this DOLT does on a REPEATED BASIS??? It will NEVER end...he CLEARLY doesnt have the mental capacity to make the sound decision UNDER FIRE. The guy is flatly the LEAGUE LAUGHING STOCK when it comes to clock/time out management. Fine OC...PATHETIC HC.
              Ok, so pick one. The question is "Who is the best head coach for the Rams" not "Why does Martz suck". So who do you want and why?
              The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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              • #8
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                At this point it really doesnt matter. Whats the point of picking someone you cant have?? Lets pick up Manning, Harrison, Holmes, Ray Lewis,Champ Bailey and Ted Washington too. I see no point in naming anyone who isnt available. Sadly, itll take yet another season or 2 of BUFFOONERY at the helm to flush Mrs. Doubtfire/RainMan out of this organization. When the time comes and there are actual candidates then we can mull it over and name names. Just give me someone who can offer up some sound decision making in key game situations.
                "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana

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                • #9
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                  :helmet: :redface: :tongue: :disappoin
                  "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Fargo Ram Fan
                    At this point it really doesnt matter. Whats the point of picking someone you cant have?? Lets pick up Manning, Harrison, Holmes, Ray Lewis,Champ Bailey and Ted Washington too. I see no point in naming anyone who isnt available. Sadly, itll take yet another season or 2 of BUFFOONERY at the helm to flush Mrs. Doubtfire/RainMan out of this organization. When the time comes and there are actual candidates then we can mull it over and name names. Just give me someone who can offer up some sound decision making in key game situations.
                    We're not owners here (at least not until everyone coughs up the $300k it'll take to by the team). We're not going to get anyone hired or fired. It's a simple question, which when answered is intended to bring about logical discussions on who would be the best coach for this team. And so far, the beliefs I had going into this question are being held true. And that is that for all of his quirks, Martz is the best coach for this team. Now if someone will come up with a better alternative, then I am anxiously awaiting. So far, I've only heard why Martz' dad never should have met his mom, not why someone else would be a better fit.
                    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                    • #11
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                      "Someone else would be a better fit" because so few OTHERS are as INEPT at managing GAME SITUATIONS. Simply because the offense has taken off under this guy doesnt mean some other HC wouldnt be able to steer the ship(with the current talent) in a BETTER MANNER. There are PLENTY of qualified coaches in the country who would probably like to have the opportunity. I would simply like to see a change. You cant SERIOUSLY tell me that a Bellichick or Parcells couldnt lead this team in a BETTER FASHION than this clown!
                      "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by HUbison
                        You're right, but I just wanted to see if any of the "Martz must die" contingency had an actual solution to what they see as our catastrophic problem at the helm.
                        You're not going to get a realistic solution if the requirements are the coach has to be alive, no Lombardi, Landry or Bryant.

                        I'd be interested to see what names people could come up with when talking about a coach that's on the hot seat and likely to be released next season if his team doesn't produce (ie. Dave Wannstedt, Jim Haslett, Butch Davis, Mike Tice, Herm Edwards, etc etc). People complain about Martz, but the bottom line is when you put him in a pool of other potentially available coaches, he's at the top of the pack.

                        We can toss names like Parcells, Bellichick, Vermiel, or Reid around as much as we want, but none of them (IMO) are in any danger of being unemployed, therefore meaning they're not realistic options as answers for the question of "If you don't want Martz, who should we have?" Besides, this team is custom built to the style of football that Martz plays. Bring in another coach with his own philosophies and tactics, and it'd be difficult for me to imagine a winning season in the first two or three years since the team would be getting a makeover.

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                        • #13
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                          I'll take Parcells. He took a pretty pathetic Dallas team last year and took them to the playoffs.
                          We could also go back to Vermeil; we already know what he did for the Rams, don't we? Don't say it was Martz, because he wasn't the HC, Vermeil was.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by jjsram
                            We could also go back to Vermeil; we already know what he did for the Rams, don't we? Don't say it was Martz, because he wasn't the HC, Vermeil was.
                            And clearly the head coach is the only member of the staff that can contribute to a team's success. The rest are just there to look pretty.

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                            • #15
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                              Vermeil was the HEAD COACH! I never said that the assistant coaches didn't contribute, did I?

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                                Mike Martz is 11-15 over his last 26 games as a coach. He might be good but that don’t mean we can’t get a good replacement. Lets be positive about this if Martz comes back good if he don’t then who cares lets look forward. You can’t tell me that everyone is just picking on Martz and he has had absolutely nothing to do with his problems with the FO. I must say that the owner and FO deserve some blame in the handling of the matter. But who is to say that Martz is not one of the primary people responsible for the issues. He is a control freak and may have over stepped his bounds in some areas we don’t know.

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                                -10-30-2005, 09:00 AM
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                                -09-08-2004, 11:55 AM
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                                With the luxury of having Vermeil then Martz for the last 7 or 8 years, I forgot what it was like to have to wait for a new coach. Let's say they cut Martz loose on the 1st. of January. How long before we have a new coach in place? Anyone?

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                                -12-25-2005, 04:09 PM
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                                What does Martz need to do to become a better head coach?
                                We all know what his weaknesses are and we can list them however this has been done to death. In detail how can Martz overcome for example his game time adjusting or his mis-use of time outs? How can he prepare better? How can he help the team to help themselves? This is one you will have to think about and you may not have any response at all. However, your on the hot seat and Martz is all ears. Tell Martz what he must do in any of his areas of weakness to become a better coach. He is listening.
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