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    By Jim Thomas
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Sunday, Sep. 05 2004

    On a day largely spent trimming players from their
    roster, the Rams made one
    big addition. Offensive tackle Orlando Pace signed his
    one-year tender as a
    franchise player Sunday evening and is expected to be
    on the practice field
    this afternoon.

    After signing the one-year, $7.02 million contract,
    Pace huddled almost
    immediately with offensive line coach John Matsko,
    trying to get up to speed
    just seven days before the regular-season opener
    against Arizona.

    Seeking a long-term contract, Pace stayed away from
    all team activities for the
    second consecutive offseason, including minicamp and
    training camp in Macomb,
    Ill. This time, he took it one step further - missing
    all four exhibition games
    as well. Last season, he played in the fourth
    preseason game after signing the
    one-year franchise player tender.

    Reached earlier on Sunday, Pace agent Carl Poston
    sounded anything but
    optimistic about Pace's return.

    "I've encouraged him to come in," Poston said. "I've
    instructed him to sign the
    one-year tender. But I can't make the big fellow come
    in. He's frustrated with
    the team."

    But something must have happened to shake loose the
    stalemate during several
    phone conversations over the weekend between Poston
    and Rams president of
    football operations Jay Zygmunt. Pace arrived at Rams
    Park and signed the
    tender at about 6:30 p.m.

    Zygmunt confirmed Sunday evening that Pace had signed
    the contract, but he
    declined further comment.

    Barring any setback on the practice field this week,
    Pace will start at left
    tackle Sunday against the Big Red. After sitting out
    the preseason finale
    against Oakland with a sprained ankle, Chris Dishman
    is expected to start at
    left guard, with Andy McCollum at center, Adam
    Timmerman at right guard and
    Grant Williams at right tackle.

    Because Pace signed after 3 p.m. Sunday, he did not
    count against the team's
    53-man roster. The Rams can ask for a two-week roster
    exemption, or they can
    simply release another player today.

    The Rams released 11 players, and placed two others on
    injured reserve to reach
    Sunday afternoon's league-mandated roster limit of 53
    players. Those moves
    actually left the team at 52 players, but the Rams
    signed free-agent safety
    Zack Bronson, a former San Francisco 49er, to that
    roster spot.

    There were no real surprises on the cut list, compiled
    by the Post-Dispatch
    through several sources and later confirmed by team

    The 11 players released were: defensive lineman Kevin
    Aldridge; cornerback
    Dwight Anderson; safety Nijrell Eason; defensive
    tackle Bernard Holsey; wide
    receiver Jamal Jones; safety Justin Lucas; running
    back Dusty McGrorty;
    defensive end Sean Moran; offensive tackle Matt
    Morgan; offensive guard Brandon
    Noll; and linebacker Brandon Spoon.

    In addition, the club placed defensive back Tom Knight
    (finger/hamstring); and
    tight end Erik Jensen (knee) on the injured reserve

    Jensen, a seventh-rounder from Iowa, is the only 2004
    draft pick in the group.
    Among those players released, Aldridge, Anderson,
    Jones, McGrorty and Noll are
    practice-squad possibilities if they're not claimed
    off waivers by another club
    by this afternoon.

    Moran played with the Rams in 2000 and '01, but
    couldn't squeeze his way into a
    very competitive situation at defensive end this
    summer. Lucas is a six-year
    veteran who played for new Rams defensive coordinator
    Larry Marmie last season
    in Arizona. He got a lot of playing time during the
    preseason, and looked like
    a leading contender to be the team's dime back in
    six-defensive back

    But the Rams decided to go in a different direction.
    Cornerback DeJuan Groce,
    if healed as expected from a knee injury, could be
    used in that capacity. And
    so could Bronson.

    Bronson, 30, started 43 games in seven seasons with
    San Francisco, but was
    released by the ***** on June 2. It was a move partly
    based on performance, and
    partly based on economics - his release saved the
    ***** $1.75 million of salary
    cap space this year.

    Bronson had seven interceptions in 2001, two of which
    he returned for
    touchdowns, but he has been slowed by injuries the
    past two seasons. He played
    in only five games in '02 because of a broken left
    foot, and missed four games
    last season because of neck and shoulder problems.

    Sources said the Rams also talked to safety Jason
    Sehorn over the weekend about
    a possible return to the club, but it appears that
    won't happen and that Sehorn
    is retiring.

    The Miami Dolphins also remained interested in trading
    for running back Lamar
    Gordon, sources familiar with the Dolphins told the
    Post-Dispatch. But all
    indications are that the Rams aren't interested in
    trading Gordon

  • #2
    Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

    Jason, we signed zach bronson instead, thank god. You were correct that we made the call, your psychic powers are quite impressive. Any chance that you are willing to pass along the winning lottery numbers for next week?

    Now that you have opened the door, i will point out that Mr. Anderson did not make the final roster, although he is destined for the practice squad i believe.

    ramming speed to all

    general counsel


    • #3
      Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

      Anderson was terrible the last 2 games and think if he would have even been able to put his mouth gaurd in right-side up he would have made the team. That is one I missed the boat on. I didn't think Charlie would have to tie his shoes for him *LOL* :-)

      PS lottery number 16, 4, 25, 33, 19---10


      • #4
        Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

        "I've encouraged him to come in," Poston said. "I've instructed him to sign the
        one-year tender. But I can't make the big fellow come
        in. He's frustrated with
        the team."
        Poston was further quoted as saying, "I've got some lovely ocean-front property in North Dakota for sale."
        The more things change, the more they stay the same.


        • #5
          Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??


          1) they think Faulk will not make the season
          2) Miami is not being realistic in the trade offers
          3) Martz still likes Gordon better than Jackson
          4) We need 4 backs on our roster
          5) Something isn't right with Jackson?
          6) The Rams are looking at the future to be able to keep Gordon and Jackson on the roster...then why Harris?

          All in all I am really confused on our RB situation. I am not sure why Harris remains on the roster and, am not sure why we wouldn't trade, am not sure if Faulk is the answer any more...


          • #6
            Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

            If Marshall gets hurt again, Jackson and Gordon make for a pretty formiddable running attack. As we know, Marshall isn't getting any younger. I hope he can have a productive year...he's exciting when he's on his game.

            I'm not sure about the Harris thing, unless they still want to convert him to a hybrid fullback.


            • #7
              Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

              Unless we had some clue as to what miami was offering, this conversation is 100% academic. No way would i trade gordon for a #4. I like the depth. For a #2, which i dont believe that they have, i would move him. If they want to trade us one of the quality cb's that they have, great, which i highly doubt.

              If this is faulks last year, the depth with gordon is impressive, especially with jackson coming off knee surgery. Harris is a fill in who plays well on special teams, i dont believe that he has any real market value.

              ramming speed to all

              general counsel


              • #8
                Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

                Originally posted by RamWraith
                Sources said the Rams also talked to safety Jason
                Sehorn over the weekend about
                a possible return to the club, but it appears that
                won't happen and that Sehorn
                is retiring.
                Good going Sehorn. It is time to retire.


                • #9
                  Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

                  Good going Sehorn. It is time to retire.
                  With a wife like his, I'd retire too!
                  JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS

                  "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
                  Adm. William "Bull" Halsey


                  • #10
                    Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

                    Miami really has nothing to trade the Rams. They have no surplus on the O line or D line, and aren't going to part with a CB of consequence. All that leaves are draft choices.

                    Frankly, if the Rams are going to trade Lamar for a draft choice, they'd be better off doing it in March.


                    • #11
                      Re: Sehorn making return, Gordon to Miami??

                      Well, so much for March. They traded Gordon to Miami. Apparently for a (3rd round?) pick.

                      Does this give us cap room to get another Offensive lineman? Is that the motive here?


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                        Read the bold GC :-) Just a matter of time *LOL*

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