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  • Monday Notebook: Pace Back in Fold

    Monday, September 6, 2004

    By Nick Wagoner
    Staff Writer

    Subtract 12 from 65, place two more on the injured list, add a veteran safety and a “Big O,” and what do you get? It isn’t rocket science, but the answer isn’t negative 13. That’s because the “Big O” isn’t a zero, but Orlando Pace, the Rams’ Pro Bowl left tackle. His addition is St. Louis’ biggest, literally and figuratively, of the preseason.

    The correct answer is the completion of the Rams’ final 53-man roster. The roster can change at anytime as the team scours the waiver wire for possible additions and alterations. Rams’ coach Mike Martz said the roster turnover is a natural part of the way the league is today.

    “Unfortunately, you just can’t afford to hang on to some of these guys,” Martz said. “You try to keep people that you think are the core players. That’s just the way the league is. Everybody’s in the same boat.”

    After receiving the team’s franchise tag for the third straight year and sitting out all of the preseason, Pace signed his one-year tender for about $7.02 million Sunday night.

    Pace’s return has been long awaited after injuries decimated the offensive line throughout camp. Right tackle Kyle Turley was placed on injured reserve on Aug. 28 because of a back injury. In addition, the Rams released center Dave Wohlabaugh after he failed to pass a physical because of complications from a hip injury.

    Those injuries and Pace’s absence left the Rams with a thin offensive line throughout the preseason, with many of their starting linemen playing out of position. Pace’s arrival means Grant Williams will move from left to right tackle, where he played against Oakland in Thursday night’s final preseason game.

    Pace, who was listed at 6-foot-7, 325 pounds, is likely to play in Sunday’s opener against Arizona at the Edward Jones Dome. In years past, Pace has made it to camp in time to play in at least one preseason game and get his conditioning up. He reported to camp in better shape than before, according to Martz.

    “We’re always glad to have Orlando back,” Martz said. “He came in to camp 16 pounds underneath what he did last year. He has obviously trained very well and prepared himself to come to camp. Watching him out here in practice he was a little rusty with some things, but he looks pretty good.”

    Pace did look to be almost svelte in his body composition. He also looked to be conditioned fairly well. On one play in a one-on-one drill, Pace pancaked defensive end Anthony Hargrove with the kind of power that helped Pace create the statistic for pancake blocks.

    The line, which has, at times, started Scott Tercero, Greg Randall and Andy King, looks like it might have solidified with Pace’s addition. The likely line features Pace and Williams at the tackles, Chris Dishman at LG, Adam Timmerman at RG, and Andy McCollum at center. Dishman is the only new member on the line. Williams enters his third season with the Rams, but his first as a starter.

    Pace wasn’t the only familiar face arriving at Rams Park over the weekend. This face, though, was familiar from his time with one of the Rams’ biggest rivals.

    Zack Bronson, a safety who played for San Francisco for seven years, signed Sunday. Bronson will now take some time to have his ***** leanings removed from his mind and said he is excited is excited that he doesn’t have to go against the Rams’ receivers anymore.

    “Having competed against them (St. Louis) after seven years in San Francisco, I am happy to be on this side of the ball,” Bronson said.

    Bronson started 43 games in his time with the *****, but injuries to his left foot, shoulder and neck, have limited his time on the field the past two years. San Francisco released him on June 2.

    Martz said Bronson is a guy the team eyed during Bronson’s time in San Francisco.

    “Last year, I think he had three injuries and kind of struggled,” Martz said. “Up to that point, he had played at a very high level. I’m very pleased to have him.”

    PRACTICE SQUAD: A few familiar faces returned to the Rams on the practice squad Monday. Quarterback Russ Michna and receiver Michael Coleman were released Aug. 28, but brought back on the practice squad. Joining them are running back Dusty McGrorty and cornerback Dwight Anderson, a couple of players who were cut Sunday.

    Offensive lineman Ben Noll appeared to be in position to join them on the practice squad, but Dallas claimed him before St. Louis could bring him back. Others released include linebackers Tony Newson and Brandon Spoon, safeties Justin Lucas and Nijrell Eason, defensive end Sean Moran, defensive tackle Bernard Holsey, receiver Jamal Jones, defensive end Kevin Aldridge and tackle Matt Morgan.

    INJURY UPDATE: Cornerback DeJuan Groce returned to practice after missing time with a sprained knee. Receiver Kevin Curtis missed practice with continued problems from shin splints.

    In lieu of cutting two players, the Rams placed another pair on the injured reserve list, meaning they are out for the year. Tight end Erik Jensen, who has had a pair of knee injuries, and safety/cornerback Tom Knight, who missed time with a variety of injuries, including a broken finger, joined Kyle Turley and Jeremy Loyd on the list.

  • #2
    Re: Monday Notebook: Pace Back in Fold

    Wait, Newson was released? So who are our backers?

    Pisa, Thomas, Chillar, Polley, Faulk and who else?

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    • #3
      Re: Monday Notebook: Pace Back in Fold

      Originally posted by RamWraith
      Bronson started 43 games in his time with the *****, but injuries to his left foot, shoulder and neck, have limited his time on the field the past two years. San Francisco released him on June 2.

      Martz said Bronson is a guy the team eyed during Bronson’s time in San Francisco.

      “Last year, I think he had three injuries and kind of struggled,” Martz said. “Up to that point, he had played at a very high level. I’m very pleased to have him.”
      Hopefully this veteran DB with an injury history has more luck than the previous veteran DB with an injury history that we signed for a year to help in the secondary.

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        Another day at Rams Park, another day without Orlando Pace. But the absence of the five-time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Tuesday signaled a milestone of sorts.

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        "We'd be irresponsible to stick him in a football game, I think," coach Mike Martz said. "He's got no practice time, and he's certainly not in any kind of hitting shape."

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        The Rams would like to sign Pace, 28, to a long-term deal. But negotiations with his agent, Carl Poston, can't resume until Pace signs his one-year, $7.02 million tender as the team's franchise player and reports for work.

        Oakland cornerback Charles Woodson, who is also a Poston client, signed his tender Tuesday. That leaves Pace and Seattle offensive tackle Walter Jones as the only franchise players yet to check in.

        So far, Pace's teammates are taking his tardiness philosophically.

        "Whenever he gets here, he gets here. We don't say too much about it," guard Adam Timmerman said. "Hopefully he has a little bit of time to get ready and put himself in a position where he doesn't get hurt and is ready to play."

        But even if Pace arrives today, he won't have much opportunity to prepare for the regular-season opener Sept. 12 against Arizona. The Rams will practice Wednesday afternoon before leaving for the West Coast. No practices are scheduled for Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Tuesday is normally a day off during game week.

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        For those of you who had Monday in the "Orlando Pace" office pool, sorry, but
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        The Rams returned to work Monday for their first practice since the Washington
        exhibition game. Once again, they were without Pace, their five-time Pro Bowl
        left tackle.

        Many observers thought Monday would be the day, giving Pace two full weeks to
        prepare for the season opener Sept. 12 against Arizona. In fact, some team
        officials hoped Pace would report Sunday. That way, he could take his physical
        and sign his one-year, $7.02 million franchise tender, without missing any
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        Pace has not returned several phone messages from the Post-Dispatch. But that's
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        Pace hosted a party for team members at a midtown nightclub Friday after the
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        "I have not talked to him," said Grant Williams, who has been manning left
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      • RamWraith
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        Is Orlando Pace ready for some football? Mike Martz didn't hedge or hesitate
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        "Four days," Martz said, without blinking.

        Call that the pragmatic answer. Because when Pace stepped onto the practice
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        "I guess it'll have to be," Martz said. "I think it is. We haven't changed what
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        Pace ended his contract stalemate Sunday night by signing a one-year, $7.02
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        "We're all excited to have Orlando back," Martz said. "I know he feels good
        about being back, too."

        On that last point, we'll just have to take Martz's word for it. Pace declined
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