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  • CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

    Rams likely to receive third round pick
    By John Clayton

    The Miami Dolphins appear to have ended their summer-long search for a replacement for Ricky Williams. They are close to reaching a trade agreement with the St. Louis Rams to acquire halfback Lamar Gordon.

    The Rams didn't want to trade Gordon, so the cost is likely going to be high. To get Gordon, the Dolphins may have to give up as much as a third-round draft pick, but they have the luxury of having acquired an extra third-round choice from the Bears in the Marty Booker-Adewale Ogunleye trade.

    But the price of a third-round pick could be cheap in comparison if Gordon can take over the starting halfback job. Gordon is a 6-1, 228-pound back who runs quick to the line of scrimmage and is tough to tackle.

    He had nine starts in two years filling in for Marshall Faulk. During those games, he's rushed for 526 yards and had a career 3.9 yard rushing average. A former third-round choice out of North Dakota State, Gordon has shown the durability to handle more than 20 carries in a game.

    With Faulk and Stephen Jackson ahead of him in St. Louis, Gordon wasn't going to be too active in the Rams' running game this year. The Dolphins had targeted Gordon and Anthony Thomas of the Chicago Bears, and were willing to give up a third-round choice for Thomas.

    In Gordon, the Dolphins believe they get a back with more explosion than Thomas. The potential trade comes after coach Dave Wannstedt named Travis Minor as the starting halfback but also said that Sammy Morris would get some action.

    For the past few days, the Rams were slow in returning calls to the Dolphins because they wanted to keep Gordon as an insurance policy for the future. The Rams told the Dolphins it would be pricey to acquire him. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the Rams wouldn't give the Dolphins a price.

    On Tuesday night, negotiations heated up to the point where the Dolphins were confident a deal could be completed by Wednesday morning. Gordon first would have to meet with coach Mike Martz and the final details of the trade had to be work out.

    Gordon had ankle surgery early in training camp, but came back in three weeks and had 22 carries for 77 yards against the Raiders in the final preseason game.

    Once the trade is completed, the Dolphins will feel as though they acquired two offensive starters -- Booker and Smith -- for Ogunleye.

    John Clayton is a senior writer for

  • #2
    Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

    third rounder is way to cheap!


    • #3
      Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

      Good grief, I thought it was settled that we need LG for definite depth at RB!

      Do n-o-t trade him.


      • #4
        Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

        NOTE: 3rd rounder is only speculation. Don't get your undies in a bunch yet, I am betting we get at least a second and maybe more.


        • #5
          Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

          It's a done deal...Gordon to Miami for a 3rd,
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          • #6
            Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

            No biggie as far as I'm concerned. He was hurt convieniently when Faulk was hurt. Not saying he wasn't, it's just how it was. He was buried under the depth chart with Jackson anyway. I just hope it's the Dolphins pick not the compensatory one for Chicago.


            • #7
              Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

              Why only a 3rd round pick. Did we not draft Gordon in the 2nd round???? We lose value and help out the Dophins. COuld the Rams not grab up any Lineman in this deal to provide some depth on this team????


              • #8
                Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

                Remember Crazy, the Dolphins are starting John St. Clair. What does that tell you about their O Line depth?

                And what were we going to get for him anyway? What has he done besides being hurt all the time? He was buried in the depth chart and I think would have been a Restricted FA next year anyway.

                So we only got a third, so what? The draft after the first round is a crap shoot anyway, and sometimes first rounders don't necessarily pan out.


                • #9
                  Re: CLAYTON: Ricky who? Miami close to acquiring Gordon

                  Gordon was a third round pick in 2002


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                    Dolphins trade for Rams' RB Lamar Gordon
                    by RamWraith
                    By JASON COLE

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                    The Dolphins completed a trade with St. Louis late Tuesday night to acquire running back Lamar Gordon in an attempt to upgrade their sagging running game.

                    According to an NFL source, the Dolphins made the move after several days of talks with the Rams and other teams. The Dolphins likely had to pay a steep price of either a third- or fourth-round pick for Gordon, but get a player they have liked for several years.

                    The deal is contingent upon Gordon passing a physical today. He left St. Louis early Wednesday morning. Gordon was a third-round pick in 2002 from North Dakota State and the Dolphins were considering him that year before completing a trade for Ricky Williams.

                    The 6-foot-1, 228-pound Gordon has played sparingly behind St. Louis star running back Marshall Faulk, rushing 136 times for 526 yards over his two seasons. He fell further on the depth chart with the Rams after the team took running back Steven Jackson in the first round this season, but St. Louis was reluctant to give him up because of fears that Faulk will breakdown physically.

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                    -09-08-2004, 08:39 AM
                  • AvengerRam_old
                    Showcase of Gordon Paid Off
                    by AvengerRam_old
                    I'll admit... I'm surprised.

                    I would not have guessed that the Rams would have been able to acquire a 3rd Round pick for Gordon.

                    Not that Gordon doesn't have potential. He could prove to be a 1,000 yard back for the Dolphins.

                    But with the Rams, he was a third string back with only moderate production in the past and a recent surgery.

                    So how did the Rams get such a high price for him?

                    Obviously, part of the reason is the Dolphins' deperate need for a back after Ricky Williams decided that the grass at Pro Player Stadium does not compare to the kind you buy in Amsterdam.

                    But the Rams also played this one very well.

                    First, Martz publicly chastised himself for suggesting that Gordon was soft after it was revealed that Lamar needed surgery to remove a bone chip. While I believe that was a sincere expression of regret by Martz, he also made sure that other teams heard his confession.

                    Then, in the final preseason game, Gordon was deliberately showcased, as he was given the ball 24 times (22 carries, 2 receptions). He showed productivity and the ability to be a workhorse - and the Dolphins paid a higher than market value price because of this.

                    While the Rams could regret the trade this year if the injury bug hits, in the long run, this should be a good trade for the Rams (and, for Lamar's sake, hopefully for the Dolphins as well).
                    -09-08-2004, 07:41 PM
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                  • RamDez
                    Gordon's output bodes well for Rams' depth
                    by RamDez
                    Gordon's output bodes well for Rams' depth
                    By Jim Thomas
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                    The plan Thursday was to put on the uniform, see how he felt in pregame
                    warmups and take it from there. Little did Lamar Gordon know he would end up
                    carrying the football 22 times against Oakland.

                    "No, I didn't expect it, but I was kind of ready for it," Gordon said.
                    "Mentally, I was ready."

                    Ready, because he knew the Rams wanted to emphasize the running game in their
                    preseason finale.

                    "So I was just trying to go for it, and trying to be at my best," Gordon said.

                    Gordon gained 77 yards on those 22 carries, including a two-yard touchdown run
                    in the fourth quarter of the Rams' 28-24 loss to the Raiders.

                    Gordon's career high for rushing attempts is 21, which came last Sept. 28
                    against Arizona - one week after Marshall Faulk suffered a fractured hand in
                    Seattle. Gordon had not carried more than 12 times in any exhibition game.
                    Until Thursday, that is.

                    It was an amazing performance considering Gordon was just 23 days removed from
                    surgery to remove bone chips from his left ankle. The original timetable called
                    for Gordon to be sidelined for a month.

                    "I pushed myself," Gordon said. "The second day after the surgery, I felt that
                    (the pain) was gone. It was still sore from the surgery, but I was in my house
                    doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing. Just walking around. I was supposed to
                    have a crutch. I was like: 'The surgery's a success. I can't wait to get

                    In case they'd forgotten, Gordon returned just in time to remind the coaching
                    staff and front office that he can be a viable backfield option.

                    Faulk looked sharp on the opening drive against the Raiders, carrying three
                    times and catching two passes, one a 7-yard TD reception.

                    "I liked what I saw from Marshall," coach Mike Martz said. "I was tempted to
                    leave him in a little bit longer, because I knew we were going to try to pound
                    the ball a little bit. But from what I saw, he was going fast."

                    Rookie Steven Jackson logged 72 yards on 12 carries against Oakland to finish
                    the preseason with 323 rushing yards.

                    "I think it just proves to my coaching staff, and the people that were
                    intrigued by Steven Jackson, it lets them know what level I'm capable of
                    playing at," Jackson said.

                    And now comes Gordon, who ran powerfully and decisively Thursday, showing an
                    occasional burst in the process.

                    Martz said he wanted Gordon to get a substantial workload "if he could take it.
                    But the more we played him, I guess, the better he played.

                    -09-04-2004, 12:58 AM
                  • RamWraith
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                    A league source tells us that the St. Louis Rams initially wanted defensive tackle Jeff Zgonina in lieu of the third-round draft pick they received when they shipped running back Lamar Gordon to the Miami Dolphins.

                    Per the source, the Dolphins refused -- and the Rams didn't persist.

                    Given that the Rams are looking for help at the defensive tackle position and that the Dolphins were desperate to prop up their running game, it seems odd to us that the Rams didn't insist on bringing back Zgonina, who was still a defensive team captain for the Rams even as he was landing a better financial offer on the open market. The Fins, after all, recently added Bryan Robinson, who'll play on the inside, so the loss of Zgonina wouldn't have been so damaging.

                    Also, Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch questions why the Rams settled only for the third-rounder in exchange for Gordon, especially since the Rams had some leverage in the discussions.

                    It works like this. The Dolphins need a running back badly. The Rams have an extra running back. So the price tag goes up.

                    (Perhaps the simplicity of that approach is beneath a guy like Mike Martz, who isn't thinking at all unless he's thinking 27 levels deep.)

                    Martz dubbed the trade "risky" and admitted to feeling "nervous" about sending Gordon, a 2002 third-rounder who has played well when Marshall Faulk couldn't go. Sure, they now have Faulk and first-rounder Steven Jackson, but an early injury to either of them will have bigger consequences without Gordon around.

                    And if Martz was nervous about shipping Gordon to Miami in exchange for the same pick with which he was drafted, why not ask for more? If, as we've suggested, Martz is on the hot seat this year in St. Louis, why not insist at a minimum on someone who can help improve the team now. That third-round pick won't do Martz any good if he's the offensive coordinator in San Diego next season (but it might help Miami coach Dave Wannstedt, of course, if he's the defensive coordinator with the Rams come April 2005).

                    For the Fins, then, it appears to have been a good deal. Word around the league is that they were hell bent on using the third-rounder they got in addition to Marty Booker for defensive end Adewale Ogunleye to get a running back. We're hearing that the Fins actually tried to send the third-rounder back to Chicago for running back Anthony Thomas, but the Bears declined.

                    Even if Gordon was the second choice, the Fins finally got their guy. In the end, the Ogunleye trade yielded replacements for the two major offseason losses -- Ricky Williams and David Boston -- both of which seemingly came too late to address this year. So now the expectations in Miami are reduced, and we now wouldn't be surprised to see the Fins come out of the darkness of...
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