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    Read the bold GC :-) Just a matter of time *LOL*

    By Bill Coats
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Wednesday, Sep. 08 2004

    Just minutes into his second practice with the Rams, safety Zack Bronson
    tumbled to the turf at Rams Park. And stayed there.

    Bronson, who played the last seven seasons with San Francisco, was signed
    Sunday as a free agent. He practiced Monday, and coach Mike Martz indicated
    that Bronson could see significant action in Sunday's season opener against

    Those plans blew up when Bronson's left ankle rolled over Wednesday. The extent
    of the damage was undetermined, but Martz said it appeared to be "a pretty
    significant" injury. Bronson definitely won't be available Sunday, a Rams
    official said.

    With Bronson and Travis Fisher (broken arm) out, and Jason Sehorn having failed
    a physical exam Wednesday, the Rams are left with only seven defensive backs.
    Cornerback Dwight Anderson, who worked with the second-team defense Wednesday,
    could be brought up from the practice squad.

    The Rams' league-mandated injury report, issued Wednesday afternoon, also
    included wide receiver Torry Holt.

    Holt, who led the NFL in catches and receiving yards last year, was a late
    scratch for the final exhibition game last Thursday in Oakland because of back
    spasms. He's practiced this week but is listed as "questionable," which under
    league guidelines means there's only a 50-50 chance he'll play Sunday.

    Cornerback DeJuan Groce (knee) also is questionable. Fisher and guard Tom
    Nutten (toe) are out, and linebacker Trev Faulk (hamstring) and fullback Joey
    Goodspeed (hamstring) are probable. Receiver Kevin Curtis, bothered for a
    couple of weeks by shin splints, returned to practice Wednesday.

    Changing places

    The locker room at Rams Park has had the look of a busy airport terminal this
    week, people bustling in and out at a hectic pace. Four new players showed up
    Wednesday: Guards Darnell Alford and Blaine Saipaia, defensive end D.J.
    Renteria, and linebacker Dedrick Roper.

    Removed from the roster since Sunday, after final cut-downs, were guard/tackle
    Andy King (released), running back Lamar Gordon (traded) and linebacker Tony
    Newson (moved to the practice squad).

    Martz said he'd never seen so much late movement.

    "But there are significant reasons," he said. "Both of these offensive linemen
    are young players that have the potential to have a future here. And we needed
    somebody that ... can play linebacker, but should be one of your top two or
    three special-teams players. And that's what we expect out of" Roper.

    Renteria has been assigned to the practice squad. But Alford, Saipaia and Roper
    will be active Sunday. Here's a quick look at each:

    Alford, 27, was one of Kansas City's last cuts. The 6- foot-4,
    334-pound Boston College product has played in five NFL games in four seasons.

    Noting that the Chiefs run virtually the same offense as the Rams, Alford said:
    "I should be able to get right in and get ready ... instead of (the Rams)
    teaching the whole thing to somebody who'd never seen it before."

    Saipaia, 26, was released Sunday by Oakland. He joined the Rams less
    than a week after playing against them. "It's a little weird," he said, "but
    it's just all part of the game."

    He said that after being cut, "You just hope for the best and prepare for the
    worst. Fortunately for me, something came up right away."

    The 6-3, 310-pounder out of Colorado State has appeared in just one NFL game in
    four years.

    Roper, 23, is a 6-2, 245-pound rookie from Northwood University, an
    NCAA Division II school in Midland, Mich. He had been assigned to Pittsburgh's
    practice squad before the Rams claimed him off the waiver wire.

    "I was actually dressed and ready to go out to practice and they told me my
    contract was claimed," said Roper, who got plenty of work Wednesday in
    special-teams drills. "This is definitely a blessing."

  • #2
    Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

    Geez. I wonder if that has anything to do with the lack of training camp/practice football conditioning time? Another reason why Pace signing at the end of camp is risky.


    • #3
      Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

      Injuries can kill you. I'm beginning to wonder if we will make it past all these...


      • #4
        Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

        Originally posted by sbramfan
        Injuries can kill you. I'm beginning to wonder if we will make it past all these...
        You're right, SB. Injuries stink, but everybody else has to deal with them too (except for the Packers, how do they keep'em healthy?). Best example, is the Cardinals. Here they come into the Ed knowing that they have to win this one in a shoot-out since their D won't stop us and their O has been their center of concentration. And then what do you know, their top two offensive weapons (Bolden & Shipp) get hurt. The injury bug is going to get somebody, it's just a matter of when.
        The more things change, the more they stay the same.


        • #5
          Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

          don't forget Fitzgerald is probably out this game also.

          Great time for a depleted Rams secondary to play a depleted Cardinals WR corp and also knowing that they may have to rely on Troy Hambrick for a running attack.


          • #6
            Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

            Injuries could have been worse if Sehorn had been allowed on the team. There's really nothing we can do about it.


            • #7
              Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

              Originally posted by adarian_too
              Geez. I wonder if that has anything to do with the lack of training camp/practice football conditioning time? Another reason why Pace signing at the end of camp is risky.
              I guess that's why we should really appreciate Pace's solo offseason training, then. It sounds as if he came into camp in great shape.


              • #8
                Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

                Originally posted by txramsfan
                don't forget Fitzgerald is probably out this game also.

                Great time for a depleted Rams secondary to play a depleted Cardinals WR corp and also knowing that they may have to rely on Troy Hambrick for a running attack.
                Why wouldn't Fitzgerald be playing? If you know something, please tell me. This has fantasy team implications for yours truly.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.


                • #9
                  Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

                  Why do some people think that a twisted ankle is necessarily caused by missing training camp?

                  Let's review...

                  Coincidence - two events occurring simultaneously or sequentially that, though appearing to be related, are, in fact, unrelated other than temporally.

                  Causation - two events that occur sequentially where one has prompted or produced the other.

                  Now, what proof do any of us have that a particular injury (i.e. Bronson's twisted ankle) was caused by his previous inactivity, rather than merely being coincidental with his inactivity?

                  To answer this question, you may ask yourself this - is it possible for the best conditioned athlete on the team who has not missed a day of training camp to nonetheless turn and sprain an ankle?


                  • #10
                    Re: Ankle injury sidelines Rams newcomer

                    Originally posted by DJRamFan
                    Injuries could have been worse if Sehorn had been allowed on the team.
                    So true. Arch might have had to break Sehorn's foot again ... just to do the team a favor this time.

                    Originally posted by NickTheGreek
                    I guess that's why we should really appreciate Pace's solo offseason training, then. It sounds as if he came into camp in great shape.
                    I might agree with you more if I believed that his off-season training program emphasized achieving football condition as opposed to physical condition.


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                      Rams Continue Roster Movement
                      by RamWraith
                      Wednesday, September 8, 2004

                      By Nick Wagoner
                      Staff Writer

                      An offseason that has seen plenty of activity seemed ready to settle in with the final cuts made on Sunday. That isn’t so for the Rams, though. St. Louis saw a flurry of activity Wednesday, including a failed free-agent signing, a trade and three new additions to the active roster.

                      With questions in the defensive backfield, St. Louis attempted to bring back Jason Sehorn, who appeared to retire after last season. All Sehorn had to do was pass a physical. Sehorn flunked the test and will not be signed to the one-year deal he was offered.

                      Sehorn took the exam Wednesday morning, but was unable to show enough improvement in his health to pass. He suffered from a broken foot in 2003 that plagued him through most of the year. Sehorn had surgery in February, but it wasn’t enough to fix what ailed him.

                      Rams’ coach Mike Martz said the team wanted to see if Sehorn was even healthy enough to make a comeback.

                      “We brought Jason in to see where he was with his foot,” Martz said. “After the second surgery, he just hadn’t healed as well as we had hoped. It just wasn’t a situation where he felt comfortable.”

                      The cornerback/safety played in 10 games, starting two last season. He finished with 26 tackles and had no interceptions.

                      The locker room at Rams Park saw plenty of new faces Wednesday as well. Linebacker Dedrick Roper and offensive linemen Darnell Alford and Blaine Saipaia joined the team Wednesday morning.

                      Martz said it is somewhat strange to be making so many changes this close to the beginning of the regular season and it can take away from gameplanning efforts.

                      “It can be a distraction,” Martz said. “It’s good to have so much of these things finally completed. Some of these guys, of course, we would have liked to had a few weeks ago, but thank goodness their ours now.”

                      Roper comes to the Rams from Pittsburgh, where he was an undrafted free agent. Roper said he was on his way to the field as a member of the practice squad when he got word the Rams claimed him. Roper played two years at Michigan State before transferring to Northwood (Mich.) College. He made a name for himself in the Whataburger Cactus Bow, a Division II all-star game with seven tackles.

                      Roper said he was thrilled when he realized he was going from a spot on the practice squad to an active roster.

                      “I couldn’t keep the smile off my face,” Roper said. “I liked it there in Pittsburgh, but I really wanted to play this year. Now, I have the opportunity.”

                      Alford came to the Rams from Kansas City after it put him on waivers Sunday. Saipaia spent his preseason with Oakland. Both players played against the Rams in preseason games, presumably making enough of an impression to get the call from St. Louis.

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                    • RamWraith
                      Dishman gets a double dose of knee trouble
                      by RamWraith
                      By Bill Coats
                      Of the Post-Dispatch

                      In nearly two decades of football, dating to his pre-high school days in Cozad, Neb., Chris Dishman never had suffered a significant knee injury. Now, it's two in two months.

                      Dishman, an eight-year NFL veteran who signed with the Rams as a free agent Aug. 5, will be sidelined four to six weeks with a complete tear of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee. Dishman, who had started five games at left guard, was injured in the third quarter Sunday in the Rams' 23-12 victory over Seattle at the Edward Jones Dome.

                      "I was locked up with a guy that I was going against, and he came into the side of my leg," Dishman explained. A series later, he re-entered the game.

                      "I braced it up, and I thought I could do it," he said. "I went out and tried to make an adjustment on a linebacker, and at that point I knew something was wrong in there, because my knee kind of flopped out the side."

                      An MRI exam Monday revealed the damage. No surgery is planned.

                      Veteran Tom Nutten played left guard the rest of the game and is expected to start Sunday, when the Rams (5-4) square off with the Buffalo Bills (3-6) at Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park, N.Y. The Rams' last regular-season game is Jan. 2, so Dishman could return this season.

                      "If we're fortunate enough to be in postseason play, he should be back by then," coach Mike Martz said. "That's still a ways down the road, but ... he'd play right now if we asked him to."

                      Dishman, 30, missed two games after hyperextending his right knee Sept. 26 against New Orleans. "It still isn't 100 percent," he said. "And then I go out there and do this. So I've kind of been a gimp."

                      The offensive line was thinned further when it was determined that guard/tackle Scott Tercero would have shoulder surgery this week and miss the remainder of the season. Tercero, who also had been playing with a broken left hand, started four games at left guard.

                      "Scotty Tercero was playing so good, I can't stress that enough," Martz said. "He's an exceptional offensive lineman. That's a big-time hit on our part. I can't be more pleased with him."

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                      "He's got that flu bug. He was going to come and practice, and (I told him), 'Go home, go to bed,'" Martz said. "He's been down for a couple of days. He came in and got some medicine, got the game plan and went back home."

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                    • RamWraith
                      Shoulder injury puts Tercero out for season
                      by RamWraith
                      By Jim Thomas
                      Of the Post-Dispatch
                      Rams offensive lineman Scott Tercero proved in 2004 that he could play in the NFL. Unfortunately, he's done playing for the season because of a shoulder injury that will require surgery.

                      Tercero was placed on injured reserve Tuesday, ending a season in which he rocketed up the depth chart with a surprisingly strong showing in the preseason and started four regular-season games at left guard.

                      "I would've loved to have finished the season," Tercero said. "But to get to play in the first half of the season was great. I got some experience under my belt, and I'm going to try to take it from here and put that into next season."

                      With Chris Dishman expected to miss this week's game in Buffalo because of a knee injury, it looks like Tom Nutten will start for the Rams at left guard, the position he manned from 1999 through 2002 in St. Louis, including two Super Bowl starts.

                      Tercero, a sixth-round pick by the Rams in 2003 from California, spent most of his rookie season on the practice squad. But with the encouragement of Rams coaches, who told him he had the potential to play in the NFL, Tercero worked on getting bigger and stronger in the offseason.

                      "I think that was probably one of the biggest knocks against me, that I was undersized," said Tercero, who's listed at 6-4, 303 pounds.

                      The work apparently paid off. With Orlando Pace missing all of the preseason in a contract impasse, Tercero started all four exhibition games at offensive tackle, displaying quick feet and good agility.

                      "That first preseason game, I was really nervous because I had a lot to prove - not only to the management and the (coaching) staff, but to myself that I could play at this level," Tercero said. "You really don't know that, until you put your hand in the dirt and you actually do play."

                      Once the regular season began, he took over for the injured Dishman at left guard with starts against San Francisco (Oct. 3), Seattle (Oct. 10), Tampa Bay (Oct. 18) and Miami (Oct. 24).

                      But almost as soon as he began playing, the injuries started mounting. Tercero suffered a broken bone in his left hand against the ***** but kept playing even though he had to wear a cast and at times appeared to be blocking almost one-handed.

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                    • RamDez
                      Rams sign ex-49er to bolster secondary
                      by RamDez
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                      BY STEVE KORTE
                      [email protected]

                      ST. LOUIS - Safety Zach Bronson has switched sides in the St. Louis Rams-San Francisco ***** rivalry.

                      Bronson, who spent the previous seven seasons with the San Francisco *****, was signed by the St. Louis Rams on Sunday to provide depth to their secondary.

                      "I wouldn't say it's like being with the enemy," Bronson said of joining the Rams. "This is a business, and I have a business approach. I am here to help this team win, and that's my approach."

                      Rams defensive captain Tyoka Jackson said Bronson might need some deprogramming after being with the ***** so long.

                      "I'm sure his head is spinning right now with all this blue and gold around," Jackson said. "He'll adjust. He's a good player, and I'm glad to have him here. All that *****-Rams stuff, we'll work on that. He'll be fine in a couple of weeks. I'm sure by the time that first 49er game rolls around, he'll hate them as much as we do."

                      Bronson said he was well-aware of how players from both sides get extra fired up for Rams-***** games.

                      "The outcome was probably going to decide who was going to win the division, so I think that definitely made the rivalry and the meetings between the two teams more intense," Bronson said.

                      Rams coach Mike Martz said he was interested in Bronson after having seen him on film so much in preparation for playing the *****.

                      "He's a veteran who has played at a high level for a long time," Martz said. "I'm excited about having him."

                      Bronson has a couple of footballs in his trophy case from his exploits at the Edward Jones Dome.

                      He recovered a fumble on a punt by Eddie Kennison that set up the winning touchdown in the *****' 15-12 victory over the Rams in 1997.

                      "We punted the ball off and I had a holding penalty, so we brought the ball back and we had to re-punt," Bronson said. "Then we went down and Kennison fumbles and I recovered it."

                      Bronson also intercepted a Kurt Warner pass in the *****' 27-14 loss to the Rams during the 2001 season.

                      Bronson was released by ***** on June 2 in a salary cap move.

                      "A lot of the guys I had been there with were released also, so it was kind expected," Bronson said. " I enjoyed every bit of the experience I had there. I'm thankful for the opportunity I had there."

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                    • RamWraith
                      Martz will have Rams practice on holiday
                      by RamWraith
                      By Bill Coats
                      Of the Post-Dispatch
                      Wednesday, Nov. 24 2004

                      Mike Martz said that when he sits down to his turkey dinner tonight, he will
                      give thanks for "everything that I have."

                      "I'm thankful for so much, I don't know where to begin," said Martz, the Rams'
                      fifth-year head coach. "I'm thankful for this job, this opportunity, these
                      players, these coaches, the families, my health. I think I've got the best job
                      in the NFL. ... I'm very happy."

                      He's not pleased, though, with his team's play. So, Thanksgiving or not, Monday
                      night game or not, the Rams will hold a 90-minute practice today.

                      "We just need the work too much," said Martz, whose outfit has dropped three of
                      its last four games and tumbled to 5-5. The Rams meet the Green Bay Packers
                      (6-4) at Lambeau Field on Monday.

                      Practice is scheduled to conclude at 12:25 p.m. today, and then the players'
                      holiday will begin in earnest. Those without families in town were busy making
                      plans Wednesday.

                      "All the guys that don't have anywhere to go, I'm going to invite to my house"
                      in St. Peters, rookie defensive end Anthony Hargrove said. "I'm going to cook.
                      I really want to make a turkey, but I saw our schedule and we don't have enough
                      time. So I'm going to do a ham. I'm going to do mashed potatoes, I'm going to
                      do green peas, I'm going to do cornbread.

                      "And I really want to try to make sweet potato pie if I get a chance to."

                      Guard Chris Dishman's family is in Nebraska, so he'll spend the day alone.

                      "I'll probably rent a couple of movies," he said. "And have a salad. That's
                      what I eat all the time. I've got to keep my weight down now that I'm not

                      Dishman, who is listed at 375 pounds, is out with a knee injury.

                      Linebacker Robert Thomas is just hoping that he won't experience a repeat of
                      last year's Thanksgiving debacle.

                      "I tried cooking and almost blew up my kitchen," he said, explaining that he
                      and a friend were playing a video game and lost track of the time.

                      "We had to throw away the turkey and eat at a neighbor's," he explained. "So
                      that ended the cooking career."

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                      -11-25-2004, 08:38 AM