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  • Jacob Bell

    Is he really a bad player? Now I haven't been able to watch the past two games. So I don't know how he's been playing.

    I'm not sure if this applies, but if the guys around you are terrible, would that make you terrible? What I mean, is since the line is complete garbage, is that making Bell look bad or is he actually playing bad?


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    Re: Jacob Bell

    Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
    Is he really a bad player? Now I haven't been able to watch the past two games. So I don't know how he's been playing.

    I'm not sure if this applies, but if the guys around you are terrible, would that make you terrible? What I mean, is since the line is complete garbage, is that making Bell look bad or is he actually playing bad?

    He is as big of a bust as Bennett is. Below average guard.

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    • #3
      Re: Jacob Bell

      lets give him chance to play on a good cohesive unit like he did with Tennesse before we pass judgement, but so far he hasn't preformed up to his pay check

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      • #4
        Re: Jacob Bell

        The rams have played 8 games and bell has missed 1 1/2 of them (he got hurt again today). Way too soon to call him a bust. Great point that we have no cohesiveness on the oline. Bell certainly doesnt appear to be playing great, but there is no way i personally can see enough on tv to grade him out and i just dont see how anyone else can either. I think we all agree that we stink to high hell at the center position. Opinions vary on cogs and its just too soon to tell with bell, although i see no reason to believe that there is a huge dropoff in his play from prior years.

        ramming speed to all

        general counsel

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        • #5
          Re: Jacob Bell

          Originally posted by general counsel View Post
          The rams have played 8 games and bell has missed 1 1/2 of them (he got hurt again today). Way too soon to call him a bust. Great point that we have no cohesiveness on the oline. Bell certainly doesnt appear to be playing great, but there is no way i personally can see enough on tv to grade him out and i just dont see how anyone else can either. I think we all agree that we stink to high hell at the center position. Opinions vary on cogs and its just too soon to tell with bell, although i see no reason to believe that there is a huge dropoff in his play from prior years.

          ramming speed to all

          general counsel
          I'm just frustrated with this guy. Maybe I am overreacting when I call him a bust, but I see far to many players blowing him off the line, and he gets penalized way too often ...

          If he is only going to be effective in a cohesive group, then we've overpaid for this guy. You can plug alot of average to slighty above average guys into a cohesive group and they'll perform well ...

          He's getting paid elite dollars. While I am not saying he should be a world beater, because one lineman does not make a line, he should be able to at least hold his own, and more often that not, he does not ...

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          • #6
            Re: Jacob Bell

            I think Bell has been playing hurt, and when you are next to the very worst center in the NFL, it doesn't help.
            Barry Waller

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            • #7
              Re: Jacob Bell

              Lets just say he is not living up to my expectations. Or his 94 overall rating on madden 09! Pretty much what everyone else has said.

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              • #8
                Re: Jacob Bell

                he`ll be fine once he`s...

                a) playing fully fit
                b)playing as part of a cohesive unit again.
                c)playing between a better LT & C combo than an agein` Pace (or Goldberg) & Leckey...

                the guy`s used to playing between Roos & Mawae..he`s bound to feel a lil shell-shocked lining up between Goldberg & Lecky!!!

                as for his price tag,well.... no player in the NFL is worth the money they on is all i gotta say about that!

                is not like they Neil Young or anything...

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                • #9
                  Re: Jacob Bell

                  Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
                  I'm just frustrated with this guy. Maybe I am overreacting when I call him a bust, but I see far to many players blowing him off the line, and he gets penalized way too often ...
                  I agree- and you really see the poor play of the interior of the O-Line when we try to run plays that pull. They're not getting out there and paving the way for Jackson and Co. That's not just Bell, that's Cogs too, but any plays that go East to West are just getting blown up. Also, it seems like a lot of the pressure on Bulger is coming right up the middle. The penalties seem to be abundant too, but I haven't seen actual numbers.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Jacob Bell

                    Originally posted by Barry Waller View Post
                    I think Bell has been playing hurt, and when you are next to the very worst center in the NFL, it doesn't help.

                    somewhere there's a nail, and you just bashed it on the head. I'm unaware of his injury issue(s), but the dude has gotten nothing from his interior side. Leckey might as well have a red cape and yell "Ole" after he snaps the ball each play.

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                    • RAMarkable
                      What was up with Jacob Bell
                      by RAMarkable
                      As I was watching the Rams execution...er..game yesterday I noticed that Bell was out of the lineup and Wragge was playing in his place.

                      Anybody know what was going on with Mr. Bell?

                      (Or is it more accurate to ask if anybody really cares at this point....)


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                    • bruce4life
                      how bad is Jacob Bell
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                      honestly I have not seen anything frm this guy? can someone prove me wrong?
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                      Jacob Bell wasn't kidding
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                      When he said he was going to beef up this off-season.
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                      -05-03-2009, 04:37 PM
                    • MauiRam
                      Greco vs Bell ..
                      by MauiRam
                      Greco vs Bell (2nd SF game review)
                      by sbrown1021
                      July 17th 2009 from another site

                      Greco Vs. Bell

                      Bell started the game, and then came out after 2 series (3?), and Greco played the rest of the way....Here is what seems to be the truth:

                      Just my opinion…I didn’t know Bell was so weak, until I looked at him play after play. This is how I see him and Greco:

                      Teams find a weak guy and exploit him. It seems like when Jacob Bell plays, tackles push him off balance, and his shoulders are out of position (not square) all the time and therefore he has no power on most of his blocks; and then when a running back changes direction toward Jacob Bell’s space, Bell has done nothing to clear his man out of the way and the back gets no yards, or loses yards….versus when John Greco comes in, they don’t toss him around, at all. Huge difference to me. Honestly, I am not sure if I have ever seen such a huge disparity in theoretical strength required for the position and the actual strength the player has.

                      I have more hope for Tye Hill making a comeback, than JB being a good guard for the Rams….of course Bell says he is 15-20 pounds heavier…hmmm, sounds easy...just gain weight....

                      A center in NFL gets ‘help’ on straight ahead running plays, probably 90% of the time. Every O line coach assumes this, when diagramming plays. Only a few centers can take on a nose tackle and even managed a stand off. (Jason Brown is one!) So, it is ok to be ‘weak’ at center.

                      But, being ‘weak’ at guard, well that is a big problem…unless you work for the Colts or Mike Martz (semi joke,there)

                      Tom Nutten weighed about 280 ;lbs, which is why he got no push in the straight ahead run game, except for a few games. Nutten was a great pass blocker. Those old 80’s 49er teams had small guards too, but their ‘angle’ block schemes invented by the their genius OL coach, McKittrick, allowed for smaller, quicker guards. Those guards were made for pass blocking, pulling and screens. Jacob Bell would have been very successful, like Nutten, in the Rams GSOT offense….or playing for the Colts Run-lite offense, Bell would be a good fit too.

                      The moment Greco came replaced Bell against the ***** (week 16), the Rams line look solidified and they didn’t get pushed around on his side…Sometimes your brain plays tricks…could there be such a difference between these guys? How could Bell be starting? AM I high? How did Bell even start for a power run team like Tennesee? I must be wrong about him.

                      So, I thought I would make a comparision between Greco and Bell…in light of the emphasis on power blocking, it becomes apparent to me that even with 15 pounds Bell will not be adequate….though Jason Brown will help him a lot this year, if he does start!

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                      -08-07-2009, 09:14 AM
                    • AvengerRam_old
                      Why has Jacob Bell lost so much weight?
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                      I've read that he's down to around 280. That's not good for an OG. What happened?
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