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    Post subject: Rams make MORE moves, other notes, (9-9)

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    The Rams re-signed S Justin Lucas and added FB Stephen Trejo.


    S Zack Bronson was placed on IR.

    They released TE Mike Brake.

    Lucas spent the offseason and preseason with the Rams before being released on Sunday.

    Trejo, 6-2, 250, spent the last 3 years with the Detroit Lions, appearing in 46 games. He's an Arizona State guy and played LB next to Adam Archuleta there and was switched to FB by the Lions.

    Bronson hurt his left ankle during Wednesday's practice and will miss the entire season. He had a history of injuries before signing with the Rams.

    Brake is an undrafted rookie free agent from Akron who spent the entire preseason with the Rams.

    Cheers,
    Bernie


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    Some follow-ups:

    If Bronson had a split contract, he'll be paid around $300-320 thousand this season. If it isn't a split contract, he'll be paid about $660 thousand.

    Two TEs, Manu and Cleeland. Trejo is a FB, H-back type but I don't know what he's capable of doing this week. Martz said Armey has been eyeing Trejo for quite some time and had him noted as someone they should grab if they ever get the chance.

    Bronson will have ankle surgery.

    Also, on Pace. Martz said Pace is in the best shape of his career. "He's quick, physical. He strikes. There's nothing slow or sluggish about him. It's obvious he's spent a lot of time on his conditioning. He was very serious about it. And it's much appreciated."

    Holt practiced today. Looks good.

    Cheers,
    Bernie


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    The Rams as we speak are about $3 million under the cap.
    They have money to do a deal with Pace....and can probably save cap space by doing so.

    Archuleta or Pace?

    They can sign both.

    But if it would come down to a decision between the two of them, it's no contest.

    Talk to me when Archuleta makes it to his first Pro Bowl.

    Cheers,
    Bernie


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    What did Pace get by not coming to camp?

    First of all, let's correct something. HE DID NOT HOLD OUT. He was under no obligation to report.

    OK, so what benefit did he realize by not coming to camp.

    Let's see....

    Maybe you'd like to ask Travis Fisher that question, or David Boston, or Anquan Boldin, or N.D. Kalu, or Jimmy Kennedy, or Jon Jansen, or JP Losman, or D'Angelo Hall, or Michael Vick (2003), or Chad Pennington (2003)....I could go on, and on, and on.

    Why expose yourself to unecessary risk of injury and a general beating down of the body when you don't have to?

    Cheers,
    Bernie


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    I feel comfortable in predicting that the Dolphins will get more out of L. Gordon over the next couple of years than the Rams will out of that No. 3 draft pick.

    Rams had leverage in dealing with Miami and didn't take advantage of it. Period.

    The Rams invested a No. 3 pick in Gordon, and that's all they got back, even though he's now an established NFL running back with promising upside. My gosh, at least get Miami to throw in another pick, even a late pick.

    Cheers,
    Bernie

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    Re: Bernie on Various Things

    Archuleta or Pace?
    It better not come down to this decision. If we find ourselves in a position where one of them has to go, then the FO has dropped the ball. Both of these guys need to spend their prime years wearing horns.
    Also, on Pace. Martz said Pace is in the best shape of his career. "He's quick, physical. He strikes. There's nothing slow or sluggish about him. It's obvious he's spent a lot of time on his conditioning. He was very serious about it. And it's much appreciated."
    Great. So why do we go through training camp again? How about the coach being allowed to exempt certain players from camp? Sounds like whatever routine Pace has been doing is better than camp anyway.
    First of all, let's correct something. HE DID NOT HOLD OUT. He was under no obligation to report.
    Semantics will get you nowhere Bernie. Call it what you will. He chose to not show up.
    Why expose yourself to unecessary risk of injury and a general beating down of the body when you don't have to?
    Then coaches should be allowed to give special exemptions for certain players. Some players aren't going to get anything from camp, and if Pace is in as good a shape as Martz has seen, then he knows something Martz doesn't anyway. Just send the bubble players & rookies to camp and let the others work out on their own.

    Doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but what do I know.
    I feel comfortable in predicting that the Dolphins will get more out of L. Gordon over the next couple of years than the Rams will out of that No. 3 draft pick.
    Maybe you shouldn't be so comfortable. I'd take that no. 3 over Gordon. He would have played less this year with the Rams than any previous year. He was only averaging 4.25 attempts per game as our #2 back. Think how that would have gone down even more as our #3.

    As for that 3rd round pick...compare Gordon to Hargrove or Curtis, our last 3 third round picks. Bernie, can you honestly tell me of those 3, you would take Gordon? Seriously.
    Rams had leverage in dealing with Miami and didn't take advantage of it. Period.
    The Dolphins would have gone elsewhere. Period.
    The Rams invested a No. 3 pick in Gordon, and that's all they got back, even though he's now an established NFL running back with promising upside.
    Hey, we're lucky we got our 3 returned. And while Gordon does have upside and will do better as Miami's 1 than our 3, until his season high is more than 298 yards, let's not call him "an established NFL running back".
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    • #3
      Re: Bernie on Various Things

      As for that 3rd round pick...compare Gordon to Hargrove or Curtis, our last 3 third round picks. Bernie, can you honestly tell me of those 3, you would take Gordon? Seriously.
      Good point. :ramlogo:

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        Re: Bernie on Various Things

        Bernie seems to be unaware that:


        1. The Dolphins don't have a 2005 2nd round pick to offer;
        2. They had expressed interest in other RBs (i.e. James Jackson at Cleveland) that would have gone for less; and
        3. Gordon probably would have sat on the bench all year for the Rams anyway.

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        • #5
          Re: Bernie on Various Things

          3. Gordon probably would have sat on the bench all year for the Rams anyway.
          ...and be gone before next season.

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          • #6
            Re: Bernie on Various Things

            You know, when I saw the title of this thread - "Bernie on Various Things" - I thought this was going to be a poll with the following choices:


            1. pot
            2. crack
            3. heroin
            4. a bender
            5. an ego trip

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            • RamWraith
              The Bernie bits
              by RamWraith
              BernieM wrote:
              Pace Haters,

              I''m covering baseball today and wasn't in Atlanta. I TiVoed the Rams game and will look at it later.

              Better yet, I'll watch a copy of the coach's film this week at Rams Park and take a look at the O-line play, including Pace.

              If he played bad, then he played bad. We'll see.

              But I surely have no intention of trusting the word of Haters. I'll see for myself.

              Funny how the Haters were so silent after last week's game.They were waiting until it was safe to rip him.

              Cheers.
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              Actually, I want to thank you guys for brightening my day.

              Seriously.

              The Cardinals baseball game was kind of dull. I wasn't in a particularlyy good mood. I was in the press-room area at Busch, watching a little of the Rams game -- literally one series. The Rams O-line was having a rough time of it. Grant Williams and Chris Dishman missed blocks. I didn't see any Pace mistakes -- and I'm not saying he didn't make any; just not during the small part of the game I saw (so far).

              But I joked with my colleagues....I said, "You wait, all of this will be blamed on Pace. No matter what happens, it'll be Pace's fault. It'll be fun to see it on my forum and e-mails."

              Sure enough....you guys are too good to be true. Thanks for the smile.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              On Pace:
              BernieM wrote:
              Bertrand Berry is a good NFL defensive end.

              How many sacks did he have last season?

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              I predicted 8-8, or 9-7 if things went well.

              I also predicted that they'd lose today -- and in fact, was right on target about how it would happen. I wrote that Vick would have a break-out game.

              So I'm not sure why some of you are freaking out and acting like this loss today was some sort of unpredictable, unforseen disaster. Especially considering that the Rams defense hasn't stopped a running game for the last nine games, including the playoff loss to Carolina. They're giving up an average of just under 6 yards a carry in that stretch. Until they correct that -- if they can -- there will be some long Sundays.

              It's the NFL. Green Bay goes to Carolina and whips the NFC Super Bowl team, and then comes home and gets wiped up at Lambeau by the freaking Bears.

              Detroit is 2-0.

              Kansas City is 0-2.

              Denver goes to Jacksonville and scores what, 6 points?

              Take a deep breath. As I wrote before the season, the Rams have experienced a talent drain. They're trying to make up for that on the fly. There will be some rough moments this season.

              Again, it's truly bizarre -- the way St. Louis football fans have no perspective on this league and its ebb and flow,...
              -09-20-2004, 01:11 PM
            • RamWraith
              The Bernie Bits
              by RamWraith
              I hope Pace has fired the Postons.

              I'm not sure what glue " Ice " has been sniffing, but I've never liked the Postons and have never said they were right.

              I just defend any player's right to try and pursue a contract that he thinks is best for him -- as long as he isn't violating an existing contract.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              I've ripped hater fans who, for one, kept falsely accusing Pace of "holding out" when he did nothing of the sort. These yahoos don't even understand the NFL economic system.

              Pace had every right to employ the Postons. I don't have to agree with him, but I'm not going to hate on him because of his choice.

              And as I have said, it takes two to make a deal. The Rams haven't exactly been aggressive in trying to make a deal with Pace.

              Pace came out yesterday and in Martz's evaluation played the best game of his NFL career. All of this hand-wringing over training camp was much to do about nothing.

              Pace is here, he's kicking butt, he's in the best shape of his career and his teammates support him 100 percent.

              The yahoos are just going to have to get over it.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              Martz's play-calling in the red zone was disappointing.

              But his team had 448 yards, so I'd conclude that he called some good plays along the way.

              I think the many quick slants, for example, where the perfect counter to Arizona's blitzes. He sniffed out their tactics pretty well.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              How could anyone be ashamed of a team that had Marshall Faulk running like the old days, an offensive line blocking with great precision and intensity, and Isaac Bruce making the tough catches and taking a beating? How could anyone be ashamed of a defense that had guys running out to get dislocated body parts popped back into place, then running back in to finish the game?

              I'm telling you, this stuff is irrational.

              If anyone wants to criticize the red-zone execution and play calling, that's fair game. Plenty to take question, there.

              But for anyone to question the effort and intensity and say they're embarrassed to be a Rams fan....that's looney-tunes.

              Cheers,

              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              I hope Martz coaches here a long time.

              Two reasons:

              1. I like it when the local teams are successful; makes my job more fun.
              2. Never a dull moment with this guy; he's a lightning rod. And that makes for great entertainment.

              I think the hatred of Martz is really funny. I used to get worked up about it, but now I just roll with it. It just amazes me how bad some people have it for this guy. It's an infatuation.

              I wonder if...
              -09-13-2004, 06:32 PM
            • RamWraith
              Some Bernie
              by RamWraith
              Still waiting for NFL permission, according to Jay Zygmunt, through Andy Strickland on Team 1380...

              can't talk to their guy yet...

              also: Rams have at least one offer for the No. 2 pick on the table...

              have heard from multiple teams (probably fewer than five)....

              --B

              They won't have a deal (contract) with Jackson done before the draft.

              They aren't taking McFadden, though.

              -B

              I'd imagine the Larry Johnson deal is a place to start...

              (signed for $19 million guaranteed, $45 mill overall, six years)

              --B
              On F.Brown--I think the Rams pushed the NFL to make a decision on the appeal... simply because of how his status could impact the draft...

              ALSO .... long time between now and training camp, now and the start of the season. They're holding their breath around here (Rams Park) that this guy lays off da cheeba...

              Wink

              --B
              -04-23-2008, 06:28 AM
            • RamWraith
              The Bernie on Gordon
              by RamWraith
              I don't like the Gordon deal....

              I'm told there was a difference of opinion in the organization.

              I don't think Martz was crazy about making this deal.

              I don't get it. Faulk is on the downside, Jackson (who looks outstanding) had knee surgery last offseason. Suppose Faulk goes down? Can a rookie get it done all year? Suppose Jackson has knee problems? I know Arlen Harris is here, and he's a tough kid, but he lacks speed.

              Now, if they had traded Gordon for a starting-caliber CB or DT, then I'd feel differently.

              Gordon will have a huge season for the Dolphins as long as he can stay healthy. And if he has a huge season, the Rams should have insured themselves to get an agreement on a better draft choice from the Dolphins.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

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              Seems to be a lot of turmoil -- or maybe restlessness is a better word -- concerning the roster. The Rams aren't usually this desperate to be adding players right before a season.

              And it's curious -- with all of this roster shuffling -- why we haven't seen a CB or DT enter the doors at Rams Park.

              Thankfully, Sehorn flunked that physical. I have no idea what they saw in him.

              Cheers,
              Bernie
              -09-08-2004, 01:05 PM
            • RamWraith
              The Bernie bits
              by RamWraith
              BernieM wrote:
              Marmie wasn't the most exciting choice as DC; Martz should have hired Dick Jauron instead.

              But two things:

              1. People around the NFL respect Marmie, recognizing that he didn't have much talent to work with in Arizona. They saw on film that he got his guys to play hard.

              2. I commented on this BEFORE the season and it holds true now. I don't see how Marmie can be faulted at this point because he inherited a defense that has no run stoppers at DT, and undersized crew of LBs, and one legitimate NFL cornerback in J. Butler. (I don't count A. Williams because he plays safety and will likely stay there). The defense he inherited lost Wistrom and Young and then lost T. Fisher.

              Marmie has to make it better the best that he can. But in the last seven games of 04', including the playoff game, this defense gave up an average of 5.4 yards per rush. And it hasn't been any better the first two games this season. That's a fatal flaw. Better personnel is the only real solution. I want to see if Marmie will get his guys to play hard every week. First week, yes. Second week, disappointing.

              Cheers,
              Bernie

              BernieM wrote:
              About Pace ...

              Pace's game was beneath his usual standards, which is to say he wasn't great, but he graded out highest among the Rams' linemen. (which isn't saying a lot). It's interesting because after reading the initial flurry of Pace-hostile posts here, I expected to go watch the tapes and see him beaten all day, manhandled, blowing assignments, etc.

              In that context I was surprised by his performance, because it wasn't nearly as bad as advertised here. On the biggest play of the game I expected to see him getting bulled over or beaten straight up, and it didn't happen that way. Brady Smith got a terrific jump on the ball, and Pace had to scurry to get his feet moving. He managed to push Smith out a bit, but not enough. Smith didn't get a full-on clean shot on the QB but he made a fantastic play, swiping the ball loose. That said, it was Pace's responsibility and in scoring that play, Smith obviously got the win. Bulger could have helped by sliding to his left, but didn't. He couldn't step up, because the Falcons got inside penetration, as they did all day in overhwheling the Gs and C. Bulger, however, stood in place. Pace didn't quite steer his guy out of harm's way. Smith won.

              Pace had a holding penalty that didn't have consequences because the Rams went on to score a TD. One time he had Kearney who surged and dived to get a piece of Bulger, but only after another Falcon got there first. Pace made some terrific blocks in that game, including a blitz pickup on a 23-yard completion to Holt. But I don't see the need to get into all that detail, because I'm not looking to convert anyone here. Believe as you wish.

              For whatever Pace's flaws were, I don't see...
              -09-22-2004, 06:08 AM
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