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    Someone threatened to kill themselves if they didn't win next Sunday?

    Can this team show any intensity? Or care? If someone's life was at stake, would they care? Would they try...

    In no way am I trying to be funny, because this is no laughing matter. This team is awful and my point is that we have many, many bad seeds that need to be cut. I can't see myself claiming more than 15 players on a 53 man roster to continue playing for this team. And I'm not sure if I'd even put Bulger (I think his career is over as a result of poor offensive line play, not because I don't think he was a great QB, just not anymore...) in the 15...

    So, perhaps if someone's life was at stake, maybe they'd show some care for 4 quarters rather than when the game is already over. Garbage time, as so many of you have elegently put it.

    We need this team sold, plain and simple.

    Our season, our playoffs and Superbowl is unfortunately this offseason. If we don't make major smart, and professional changes fast, I don't think we'll be able to have a good team for another 5-10 years. I truly believe that this offseason is the time for the Rams to rebuild entirely. If we're going to spend the big bucks, it's now, this offseason.

    I want to see trades, big FA acquisitions that make sense, big name draft picks that make sense and I want a new attitude to this lifeless team.

    New owner, new FO, new coaches, new staff, and most importantly, new players.
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

  • #2
    Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

    Varg, IMO this team does not have enough good players to perform in any clutch situation; life or death. They are collecting a paycheck and simply playing out the season. Many of them don't belong in the NFL and are even too slow to play in the Arena 2 league. They can't handle the current pressure of playing in the NFL. Adding life or death will only stress them beyond the point of worthlessness that they currently play at...


    • #3
      Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

      Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams


      • #4
        Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

        playing for life or death???...hell, the pressure would probly result in certain players' suicide..

        damn that was just wrong, but what else am i supposed to come up with, im tired of this poor playing


        • #5
          Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

          Hey man, I understand the frustration. It seems like perhaps the fire is there (from what I read from Pisa's comments in another thread) and SFCRamFan hit the nail on the head. These guys simply aren't good enough, and it's a result from poor draft picks and other unnecessary FA signings (ex. Drew Bennett). Like I said, we need an overhaul, and this is the offseason to do that. Let's start from scratch, and when I say from scratch, I mean burning all bridges to past connections to the FO and President(s) of the team. We just need everything rebuild from square one...

          Let's hope Georgia's kid does us and himself a favor.
          Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams


          • #6
            Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

            or if players were deducted $10000 for a missed tackle, $5000 for each missed block, everyone fined $100,000 if at least 3 touchdowns were not scored, $2000 for a miscue(int, fumble,etc).


            • #7
              Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

              I don't think they would do any better even if some fan said that.

              Incognito wouldn't understand what suicide meant.
              Bulger would still be dazed from that concussion.
              Jackson wouldn't care; as long as he sits on the bench and collects his paycheck.
              Zygmunt would probably laugh and ask someone to videotape it.
              Rosenbloom would just make sure the fan doesn't commit suicide in his stadium, so his stock wouldn't drop like a bomb.
              Saunders would listen while he tries to ineffectively draw up plays, then ask you what did you say?

              This is sad.


              • #8
                Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

                I think we should do what blood85 said.

                Thats what we did for soccer. Instead of money, it was knees to the chest.

                Trust me, it got a high school soccer team playing their butts off to avoid the knees. These professionals should play their butts off to keep their money.


                • #9
                  Re: Would the Rams show fire if...

                  All sports should be paid on the incentive program!!!!!


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