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    No one wanted to view this in the offensive section of this board so I thought I would post it here...cause I want to know if this is just me.

    Warner to me looks like he has put on a few pounds over the summer. Does anyone else see this??

    I also think his delievery is different, it seems almost side arm, or shot putt.

  • #2
    he does look like there was a little weight gain, but he was never the thinnest QB. I haven't noticed a difference in his throw, but that's not to say you're wrong, i'll be watching his throws on sunday though.

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    • #3
      I noticed that his throwing motion looked different also.I thought it might have been because of his thumb,but early in the game against the Eagles Warner looked uncomfortable in the pocket.Maybe it's because he's getting different looks from opposing defenses.I dont know.I'm hoping it's just because he's rusty.I hope he has a huge day against the Dolphins.I think that would get our offense back on track.


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      ST.LOUIS RAMS:THE MOST FRUSTRATING TEAM IN THE NFL!!!

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      • #4
        I'm thinking the extra padding may be to protect him against the hits. Or he's just enjoying his contract too much. He always seemed to be beefier than the standard QB to me. But it's muscle, trust me. I've seen it up close after practice at training camp. Brenda better keep an eye on those female fans. (No, I don't drool over married men!)

        As for the throwing, I thought I noticed him throwing that way sometimes last season. I think it depends on where his target is at. I'll have to look closer myself, see if it seems unWarnerlike, and get back to you on it.

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        • woodyramfan1
          Warner finally gone?
          by woodyramfan1
          Is there anyone else out here in Ramsland who is as happy as I am that Warner and his mouthy wife are finally gone from us? Hopefully he will do well in NY or whereever he goes but I say good riddance as he and his wife were a cancer in the clubhouse. :helmet:
          -05-30-2004, 07:33 AM
        • Yodude
          Insider: Warner earns vindication, another turn on top
          by Yodude
          Oct. 13, 2004
          By Pete Prisco
          SportsLine.com Senior Writer
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          Insider | Notebook | Mailbag
          New York Giants quarterback Kurt Warner is on a cell phone, driving somewhere in New Jersey, talking about his new team and his new situation. As he speaks, he sounds more upbeat than he has in years, which is saying something because this is one happy dude.

          "I'm loving it here," Warner said.


          Showing vintage form so far, Kurt Warner is proving just how little his critics know.
          Why wouldn't he? This was a man who was written off the past year, many speculating that his time at the top had come and gone. They said his 15 minutes of fame were over.

          That feel-good story of grocery stock boy to league MVP was nice at the time, but as quick as he rose to the top, it was sure to be followed by talk that he would fall just as fast.

          Washed up. Over. Done. Finished.

          Warner heard it all the past couple of seasons, the talk growing from murmurs into a full-blown amplified beat by late last season in St. Louis. Forget his two MVP awards he won with the Rams. Forget his Super Bowl victory after the 1999 season. Forget all the passing numbers.

          The doubters, including the St. Louis Rams coaches, insisted his time was up.

          "I guess it's unprecedented what happened to me," Warner said. "To go from where I was to the last two years, it's hard to make sense of it. People formed an opinion on what was wrong with me and they all seemed to jump on the bandwagon. It was easy to come to the conclusion that I wasn't the same player based on the past couple of years. But I never put a lot of stock in what people were saying. I knew what I was capable of doing. The bottom line for me has not been what people think about me, but what the people in my locker room and in the organization think about me. I knew I could still play and still win."

          He's doing both, too.

          The Giants are the surprise team of the first five weeks, winning four consecutive games after losing their opener to the Eagles. At 4-1, heading into their bye week Sunday, they are a half game behind Philadelphia in the NFC East.

          Warner is big reason for the success.


          So much for his just keeping the seat warm until rookie first-round pick Eli Manning takes over. Warner isn't going anywhere. Not the way he's playing. There had been some talk that Warner would keep the spot until the bye week, and then hand the keys to the car over to the younger kid. That's laughable now.


          Warner may not be putting up the huge numbers he did with the Rams from 1999-2001, but he is running the offense with precision, he's taking care of the ball and he's getting it out on time.

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          -10-17-2004, 08:21 AM
        • RamDez
          Fairy tale start, unhappy ending
          by RamDez
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          He slipped into town so quietly, so unobtrusively, that barely anyone noticed. Kurt Warner's arrival was heralded, if that's the word, in the Post-Dispatch on Christmas Day 1997, his name buried in a list of seven other free agents the Rams signed after their season ended.

          Nothing hinted at Warner's improbable rise that would captivate the city - and, for that matter, much of the country - or at his fall, nearly as swift and sudden, that would trigger such strong emotions as well.

          So insignificant was Warner that he warranted only one sentence, and that sentence wasn't even correct. He was identified as a college quarterback at Northern (ital) Arizona (end ital), half a country away from his true alma mater, Northern Iowa.

          Nothing indicated that he would lead his team - which had finished 4-12 the season before he took over - to victory in the Super Bowl. That he would win the league MVP twice in his first three seasons as a starter. That his wife would stir up controversy by calling a sports-talk radio show to criticize his coach. Or that he would eventually tell an audience at a religious convention that his strong faith - not his lack of production - was the reason he lost his starting job.

          Nothing could have predicted all that came to pass. Who would have believed it?

          Warner's sojourn in St. Louis had enough highs and lows, enough twists and turns, to fill an opera. And like many heroes, the characteristics that made him a star were essentially the same ones that led to his fall.


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          This is an athlete who never once lost confidence that he had the skills to play in the NFL, not even while stocking grocery shelves at Hy-Vee for $5.50 an hour or toiling for three seasons with the Iowa Barnstormers of the Arena Football League. So with that kind of faith in himself - and a strong religious faith as well - how could he be expected to characterize his struggles in 2002 and 2003 as anything other than an aberration?

          In his first lengthy interview with the Post-Dispatch, in December 1998, Warner gave this answer when asked the biggest myth about the NFL: "Because I've played in so many different leagues and have had so many people tell me that I didn't belong here, that I wasn't good enough to play here, to me the biggest myth has been that I can't compete at this level or that the NFL athletes are so much greater than all of the other professional athletes out there."

          In January 2003, after a season in which Warner went 0-6 as a starter, missed much of the season with broken finger problems and weathered a controversy sparked by his wife's outspokenness, he had the same attitude. "Did I play at a 'way' lower level than I did in the past three years?" he asked. "I don't believe I did. There were just different...
          -06-03-2004, 10:59 PM
        • txramsfan
          Rabid's Rants on Warner
          by txramsfan
          I just read the Rabid's Rants this week, and do agree with him to a certain extent. 18 INT's for any QB is high, extremely high. However, certain circumstances have been the cause for some of these.

          1. Warner's thumb. It still hasn't been right since he hurt it. The deep ball is MIA really this year, but I believe Martz is as close to Woody Hayes as Bill Clinton is to George W. Completely different individuals.

          2. Martz's play calling. MM abandonded the run in early games this year way to quickly, i.e. NO and TB at home. Anytime you come out slinging 15 or so pass plays to start the game, conventional thinking on INT's is out the window.

          3. Tipped passes. How many of these INT's have come from passes that the WR's have let go through their hands and right into the deep corners? At least 4 I can think of.

          One thing noticeable recently about the change in Warner is MM's prodding for Warner to move a little more. I watched the Fox Sports Special on Warner and he moved quite a bit in the Arena League. He wasn't Flutie, but he wasn't Jim Hart either.

          I think Martz is addressing the Warner situation because no one else was banging the drum for Warner. Everyone was talking Favre, K. Stewart, or Garcia, but Warner just kept winning. Shoot, he has directed the Rams to a 12-2 record and perfect on the road.


          I think the INT's can be reduced by both Warner throwing the ball away when nothing is there instead of trying to thread the needle everytime. Also, we have seen an increase in the running game lately, causing D's to play us closer. Both Warner and Martz can be blamed for the INT's, but I don't think he wants to grab Warners facemask and shake it anytime soon.
          -12-29-2001, 11:32 AM
        • RamWraith
          Warner still has the "wobble"
          by RamWraith
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          June 15, 2004 -- Ever since he signed with the Giants, the sight of Kurt Warner shaking his head in disgust is a common one, a sight that again could be seen at yesterday's mini-camp.

          Like a pitcher without command of his pitches, Warner is not happy with the way the ball is coming out of his hand. Many of his throws wobble in the air and fall short of the receiver. Warner attributes his sluggish start to nothing more than a lack of familiarity with the offense, his new teammates and just about everything involved in the quarterback position with the Giants as opposed to the Rams.

          "It's just not natural yet," he said. "Learning the offense and thinking about so much, it just hasn't got to that point where it's just clicked, where everything just slows down and you can just play. That part's frustrating for me, because after doing it for a certain way for so long and then having to kind of start over, it's frustrating.

          "You just don't have that comfort feel. You're just not quite sure where everybody's going to be, sometimes you're turning and throwing quick. Even the cadence isn't natural yet, all the timing things, the feel, the footwork, it's all new. I can't stop thinking about it at night, thinking, 'You would never do that, why did you do that?' It's frustrating for me.
          -06-15-2004, 06:32 AM
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