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    Martz remembers Mora's mouth


    BY JEFF GORDON
    Post-Dispatch Online Sports Columnist
    Thursday, Sep. 16 2004

    Last season, San Francisco ***** defensive coordinator Jim Mora got fired up
    about the progress of his fledgling defensive unit in the Bay Area.

    The Niners blitzed the Rams silly while rolling to a 30-10 victory last Nov. 2.

    "We're faster than the Rams," Mora said. "Our defense didn't used to be faster,
    and now it is. That might sound ****y, but it's true. I mean no disrespect to
    them. I love playing against those guys, but as a team, we have more team speed
    now."

    That game -- and that comment -- got Mike Martz's competitive juices flowing.
    The Rams and ***** have enjoyed a tremendous rivalry over the years -- and
    Martz got to match wits against Mora during recent seasons.

    Now Mora is head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, so some of that personal rivalry
    shifts over to Sunday's game. Post-Dispatch scribe Jim Thomas asked Mora about
    that "faster" comment during a conference call Wednesday.

    "Don't bring that one up," Mora said with a laugh. "I saw that in the paper
    this morning and I said. 'Ah, I know they are going to ask me about that one.'
    I don't think they need that quote out of me to get motivated."

    Probably not, but Martz vs. Mora adds some juice to this match-up. Mad Mike is
    one of the NFL's most innovative minds and Mora is one of the league's
    brightest young coaches.

    Just as Martz maintains a special interest in the Rams' offense, Mora has put
    his own stamp on the Falcons defense. Mad Mike will throw lots of formations,
    personnel packages and motion at Atlanta and the Falcons will reciprocate with
    insidious zone blitzes on passing downs.

    The result will be fun viewing for football fans who enjoy breaking down the
    strategic Xs and Os. You can count on both men cooking up something special for
    this game.

    "He does a good job with the pressure, always has," Martz said of Mora. "He
    understands what we do, what we are attempting to do."

    Mora's take on the Rams?

    "Any time you pressure the Rams, you're gambling -- because they make you pay
    for it," Mora said. "If you're going to pressure them, it's going to have to
    be well-designed so that you don't expose coverage flaws."

    For the record, Martz tried to play down the chess match against his
    counterpart on the Falcons sideline.

    "There is probably too much attention to that part of it," Martz said. "I think
    there is a lot less of that than you realize. It's more guys just playing, the
    type of people that changes each year that you have on the roster, both sides
    of the ball. That changes what you are able to do, whether to run it or throw
    it, whatever it is, blitz or play man, those types of things. Each year on your
    roster, you make that sort of adjustment.

    "It's more about you than it is about them."

    Uh, nice try Mike. But make no mistake -- this match-up will have plenty to do
    with coaching. Both men strive to stay on the tactical forefront and both men
    crave a challenge.

    "It's fun to play against those guys because they are so good and I just
    respect their style," Mora said, warming to the topic at hand. "The thing I
    like Mike Martz the best is he is always going for it. The mentality of the
    team is to go for it, let's just go, no matter what, just go. That's why they
    are able to go in a game like Sunday and survive three turnovers. Most teams
    couldn't do that."

    It's a shame the Rams and Falcons are no longer in the same division. This
    match-up had a chance to be something special like, like the Martz-Jim Haslett
    battles with then Rams and Saints smacked heads.

    Great coaching match-ups, in my mind, are just as exciting as great personnel
    match-ups. And Martz vs. Mora should offer fireworks aplenty.

    __________________________________________________________
    Keeping the Rams Nation Talking

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    Re: Martz remembers Mora's mouth ---- FIGHT FIGHT

    I promised myself to stay away this morning. But then I read where sMartz' comment to the prospect of a chess match arising between he and Mora went something like this:


    Originally posted by sMartz
    There is probably too much attention to that part of it. I think
    there is a lot less of that than you realize.
    No Mike. That is precisely what we're afraid of. We realize that you probably pay less attention to real-time game-planning adjustments than you should. And that's a short-coming. Because no matter what, as Thomas pointed out:


    Originally posted by JimThomas
    Uh, nice try Mike. But make no mistake -- this match-up will have plenty to do with coaching.

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      Re: Martz remembers Mora's mouth ---- FIGHT FIGHT

      So much for the "game within the game"!
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        by RamWraith
        By Bernie Miklasz
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        By Bryan Burwell

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        "It's probably arrogant, but (the *****' defense is) faster than the Rams'. .. It didn't used to be that way, and now it is. That might sound ****y, but it's a fact."

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        ATLANTA - Sometimes it really is about You vs. Him.

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        Mora laughed about it in good nature when asked about the comment.

        "Don't bring that one up," Mora said, jokingly. "I saw that in the paper this morning and I said. 'Ah, I know they are going to ask me about that one.' I don't think they need that quote out of me to get motivated."

        Mora is probably right. The Rams have plenty of motivation for the meeting with Atlanta, without thinking about something that happened when Mora coached elsewhere. Going to 2-0, winning its first road game, continuing to run the ball effectively and playing solid defense again is just some of the motivation St. Louis has.

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      • eldfan
        Let's hope Martz proves us wrong with his madness
        by eldfan
        Let's hope Martz proves us wrong with his madness
        By Bryan Burwell
        Of the Post-Dispatch
        09/27/2004

        Sports Columnist Bryan Burwell

        If most of the football world already thought Mike Martz was a maddeningly stubborn football eccentric more than willing to bite off his nose to spite his face, wait until they get a load of him now.

        At his Monday afternoon news conference at Rams Park, the Rams head coach fiercely defended his swashbuckling way of football life as if ... well, as if his life depended on it, which in a way it probably does. He is coaching an obviously flawed football team with a 1-2 record and a defense that is springing more leaks than the Titanic. But as Martz relies on his signature aggressive offensive methods for rescuing this young but very shaky season, he knows he's being confronted with outside resistance.

        He is surrounded by a world full of conventional football thinkers who want to fit this aggressive, damn-the-torpedoes square peg into a very conservative round hole. We want him to play it by the old-school book. If the defense can't stop anyone - and after three weeks of play, there is faint evidence that this bloodied and battered group can - then why not go with a clock-gobbling, smash-mouth style of offense that relies on Marshall Faulk's fleet feet and Steven Jackson's brutish blasts?

        In essence, what we want is for Martz to stay inside the lines, which of course is just about the most repugnant thing you can say to a guy with his aggressive offensive temperament. Why not just ask dogs to start living with cats?

        "Look ... look ... don't ... uhhh," he said, practically spitting out the words like they were a bad piece of meat. "You need to find another coach, then. We're going to play fast and furious, that's what we do. We're going to run it when we ... want to run it, not because somebody (uh, that would be you and me) feels like you have to be balanced."

        He smiled almost defiantly when he said that. And just in case you didn't understand it the first time, Martz put this exclamation point on his soliloquy:

        "That's the way it is. Get used to it. That's the way it is."

        Now here's what I learned from this rather revealing State of the Rams address: Mike Martz doesn't particularly care what the outside world thinks he should do. He has a plan, and he's going to stick with it. It may not be the plan you want, but it's the plan you're going to get. And here's something else gleaned from Martz's feisty words: He will get every opportunity over the next 13 weeks to either sink or swim with his convictions.

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        -09-28-2004, 05:41 AM
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