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  • Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

    From another Rams forum ..

    Posted by Playmaker

    Bernie just had Sam Farmer, NFL beat writer from the L.A. Times, on his radio show on 101 ESPN in St.Louis. Farmer enlightened the St.Louis audience, including Bernie himself, on why the city of Los Angeles, the 2nd largest city in America, is entering its fifteenth season without an NFL franchise.

    #1. Citizens of L.A. do not want to contribute anything in tax dollars to building the stadium.

    #2. L.A.'s population is 50% Hispanic and a large part of that population are not American football fans. They grew up as Baseball and Soccer fans.

    #3. Ed Roski, who is interested in buying an NFL team and building an NFL stadium in Industry Ca (30 minutes east of downtown L.A.), will not be abe to do anything until he sale's his Casino/Hotel in Las Vegas. That is because the NFL doesn't want to be associated with any gambling. There was rumors that the property title could be given to Roski's son, but that won't fly. He said right now property is not moving in Las Vegas. So it would be really hard to sale it anytime soon.

    #4. The state of California is in a terrible financial crisis. Much more than most other states.

    #5. Getting into "politics" Missouri is considered a swing state. So politicians from both sides would step up to help St.Louis keep the Rams to help their respective political parties.

    #6. There will be a lot of anti-trust exemptions involved to tie this up.

    #7. The NFL is not interested in moving any franchises. He said he doesn't believe, from the information he has gathered and the people in L.A. who are in the know, that the Rams will not be an option anyway. He said the Chargers would be the much more viable option. They are close to L.A. already and the league would more likely let that happen than to let the Rams, Jags, or Vikings come to L.A.

    Interesting about the gambling bit handcuffing Roski .. There appear to be alot of "ifs" involved regarding the building of a new stadium in LA. As far as the Rams moving back to LA, looks like it will be rumor city for an extended time. Hard to give anything much credence until the Rams are sold ...

  • #2
    Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

    #1. Ed Roski is funding the stadium without any tax dollars.
    #2. Alot of hispanics watch "american football". Look at the NFL game in Mexico a few years ago a regular-season record 103,467.
    #3. Sam Farmer is a douche bag


    • #3
      Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

      Originally posted by larams1980 View Post
      #3. Sam Farmer is a douche bag


      Don't hold back...tell us how you REALLY feel! I think I like you just a little bit more now. Oh, and I agree. He's mildly retarded.
      Last edited by Scidog68; -06-03-2009, 01:18 PM. Reason: Laughed so hard I forgot to agree with him.


      • #4
        Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

        I dont understand the personal attack comment, but i can tell you that if a move to LA depends on the sale of a casino to finance a deal, we could all be waiting quite a while given the current economic state of properties in vegas. Valuations are hugely down. Until he divests of that property, the nfl wont clear him and he is unlikely to have the equity to get the deal done. By the time all of that happens, a stadium would still need to be built. That is all going to take a lot of time.

        Thus, no matter how "logical" it appears to people that the Rams may move to LA, it has many many obstacles on the financial side. The budget situation in california is fact, not fiction. The best option for the rams is a purchase by checketts or another st louis group as it will be the fastest and cause the least disruption by virtue of the shortest period of uncertainty for the franchise.

        ramming speed to all

        general counsel


        • #5
          Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

          Originally posted by larams1980 View Post
          #1. Ed Roski is funding the stadium without any tax dollars.
          #2. Alot of hispanics watch "american football". Look at the NFL game in Mexico a few years ago a regular-season record 103,467.
          #3. Sam Farmer is a douche bag
          Very big douche bag folks. For those who do not know him he writes in the LA times and his articles are horrilbe


          • #6
            Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

            Regardless of what you think of Farmer, there are some legit points there. They're talking about potentially closing down parks and cutting student loan programs in California to fix the state budget, so public money for a stadium isn't real likely. It could still happen with private money, but from a financial standpoint, it would make moving quite a bit less attractive.


            • #7
              Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

              I wish it would happen though. L.A. Rams.


              • #8
                Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

                Originally posted by Mr.Blond View Post
                I wish it would happen though. L.A. Rams.
                I, too, would love to have the Rams play in my town, but that isn't going to happen either. I don't know this Farmer fella from Adam, but there's probably a reason that Miklasz interviewed him for this story and not one of us.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.


                • #9
                  Re: Sam Farmer informs St. Louis Audience on L.A. NFL Scene

                  THE primary issue is that Roski is trying to coordinate the building of a stadium with the purchase. He wants to exchange the property and the equity he could earn in the building of a stadium with his minority purchase of a team. That works with the Jags, Chargers and Vikings but it doesn't work for the Rams. The owners of the Rams need CASH now and not a nicer stadium.

                  The owner of the Dodgers is taking the exact same purchase plan of action. He wants to exchange very valuable real estate next to Dodger Stadium for a minority interest in an NFL team. Again, that doesn't help the Rams.


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