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  • Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

    But these Bulger threads are really turning this entire forum into a laughing stock of a joke ...

    And what can really be done about it? I know the moderator's hands are tied, because, well, we all have freedom of speech, but this is getting just a tad bit ridiculous ...

    Thread, after thread, after thread, about Bulger keeps getting posted on this forum. The arguments are ridiculous for the most part, and I think the guiltiest party might be those that actually respond to the crap that is posted. I can say this because I am one of them!

    But no more, I'm just not going to take part in that nonsense. It's pointless. Those that hate Bulger will always hate him. When he performs well, they'll just dissapear into the sunset, just waiting for the day to bash him again at the first opportunity of him struggling ...

    I just don't get it, I don't get the attitude. It's a new season, new opportunity, and every bit of enjoyment is getting sucked out of it early because every where I look on this forum I see these terrible, repetitive threads ....

    It makes the experience here very cumbersome. I love being here, I think this is best Ram's forum on the web, but it's getting a little out of hand ...

    Maybe a seperate forum for Bulger bashing? Or just put a stop to it all together, somehow, someway? Something needs to be done, or eventually people will walk away, because it just won't be worth it ...

    Just something to think about. I rest on the side of eternal optimism, and a quick visit to the boards these days is enough to bring me down ...

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    Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

    You could always choose to just not read them. Topics on this forumare like food on a buffet. You dont have to eat everything on the buffet to enjoy it. (sorry I'm a fat boy lol)

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    • #3
      Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

      Originally posted by Punisher73 View Post
      You could always choose to just not read them. Topics on this forumare like food on a buffet. You dont have to eat everything on the buffet to enjoy it. (sorry I'm a fat boy lol)
      Sure, simple solution, but been here quite awhile and know how it works ...

      It's everywhere, it seems to get intermingled in many, many threads these days, not just ones with Bulger in the title. As long as Bulger is here, trash will consistently pop up about him in all kinds of threads ...

      I shouldn't have to be concerned about openings threads, and wondering what kind of garbage might be waiting ...

      Browsing a forum about the Rams should be fun, not a job. Take away the Bulger garbage, and there is little to read, other than the AP news releases that get posted. I can see them anywhere ...

      Maybe my expectations are too high, but quality of thread has seemed to go downhill with Bulger's apparent "decline" in play ...

      I've browsed others forums, and while there is random nonsense, I've never seen such a consistent barage of this kind of thing. It's rather absurd ....
      Last edited by RamsInfiniti; -08-18-2009, 11:05 AM.

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      • #4
        Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

        People can post whatever they want, it's never going to stop, so just ignore it.

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        • #5
          Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

          Originally posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die View Post
          People can post whatever they want, it's never going to stop, so just ignore it.
          Not true. Posts "mysteriously disappear" all the time :|

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          • #6
            Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

            Originally posted by ScottD413 View Post
            Not true. Posts "mysteriously disappear" all the time :|
            No mystery about posts that disappear. There is almost always, without exception, a reason noted for a thread or post "disappearing". IMO, there should be a lot more disappearances.


            As far as the board being inundated with Bulger threads, it's to be expected after what happened in the first preseason game and the subsequent news of the finger injury. It also doesn't help that there are many here who insist on stirring the pot every chance they get. Marc Bulger has been and I'm sure will always be a lightning rod for discussion, especially here at ClanRam. It's just a reality we all have to accept.

            AvengerRam did try to warn everybody about giving the "attention seeking haters" what they want, didn't he?

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            • #7
              Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

              My favorite part of this thread is the thread itself...hey I'm sick of the Bulger threads, so I'll start one myself................

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              • #8
                Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                Maybe some of them will eventually drift off to the latest and greatest upcoming QB's.

                Here's the list;

                Stafford
                Sanchez
                Ryan
                Flacco
                Quinn
                Russell
                Young

                Pick one and brag away........ or just stay and be a RAMS fan !!!!!

                We are what we are, take it or leave it.

                Maineram -

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                • #9
                  Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                  well if you listened to the broadcast of the jets rams game and then watched nfl network coverage, Then you would all know that they have already given mark sanchez a hall of fame pass

                  does that help
                  shoot maybe the rams should have drafted snachez (lmao)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                    Originally posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die View Post
                    My favorite part of this thread is the thread itself...hey I'm sick of the Bulger threads, so I'll start one myself................
                    I almost wrote the same thing but I was trying to get involved in another Bulger thread.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                      I've started reading this forum much less over the last couple of weeks because of the neverending Bulger-debates that recently re-ignited. I'm just sick of it. As you say it's a valid football topic so you can't really ask the Mods to delete the threads or anything, but it sure sucks to listen to it 24/7 anyway. I have no hope for things to improve unless Bulger either flat-out sucks or plays Pro Bowl football all year - anything in between will be analyzed and found to support whichever conclusion people had beforehand on both sides. All. Year. Long. Sigh.

                      I'm critical of Bulger and I'm not sure he'll ever be a top-15 QB again, but I have to agree that there's a certain group of Bulger-bashers that basically make the rest of us (the rest of those who question Bulger) look like rambling morons because we're "on their side" so to speak. I'd say there are some similar individuals on the other side of the debate too, but any neutral observer would say there are more moronic bashers than apologists - probably because trollish people have an innate tendency towards the negative doom & gloom.

                      Reminds you of the whole "Pro/Con Martz" debate or the old classic "Warner vs. Bulger" doesn't it? I suppose flamefests like that are the nature of Internet message boards...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                        I have said this before, and I will repeat:

                        There are three sides to this -
                        1. Bulger sucks.
                        2. Bulger is great.
                        3. The truth.

                        As AvengerRam has said, be prepared for the haters seeking attention.

                        I think we should give them attention. Whenever you read a post where someone is posting just because they want attention, usually on a topic that is clearly just to start trouble...

                        Negative rep 'em.

                        Members can click on the little scale looking thingie in the upper right of each post to give rep. If you click on "I approve", this gives the person positive rep points. Clicking on "I disapprove", this subtracts rep. Eventually, if enough people do this, the person might get the message. If they don't, well, it still feels good to negative rep someone who deserves it!
                        temp_4394_1467243487543_20
                        RAMS!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                          Dear Infiniti wondering how you will respond after we finally get our O-line fixed and Bulger still has problems? I supose youll blame it on all these years of him getting sacked and hit too much. Bulger is a system QB. A Martz system that didnt just not protect Bulger but our beloved Warner, a guy who definately has a nack for tossing TD passes- strength under pressure-something bulger has always lacked.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                            Originally posted by RamsFanSam View Post
                            I have said this before, and I will repeat:

                            There are three sides to this -
                            1. Bulger sucks.
                            2. Bulger is great.
                            3. The truth.

                            As AvengerRam has said, be prepared for the haters seeking attention.

                            I think we should give them attention. Whenever you read a post where someone is posting just because they want attention, usually on a topic that is clearly just to start trouble...

                            Negative rep 'em.

                            Members can click on the little scale looking thingie in the upper right of each post to give rep. If you click on "I approve", this gives the person positive rep points. Clicking on "I disapprove", this subtracts rep. Eventually, if enough people do this, the person might get the message. If they don't, well, it still feels good to negative rep someone who deserves it!
                            I understand what your trying to do, but I am not sure that this will just become a pissing contest, you give me bad rep so now I will give you bad rep,I am a Bulger fan and I think he will turn it around but if someone doesn't agree they shouldn't get negative rep just because I don't agree with them,theres times when I don't agree with the guys who run to Bulgers aid everytime but I wouldn't give them negative rep either.I guess the best solution is to just move on to the next post, or the next post or go all the way down the page until you find one or better yet the Rams win the super bowl and Bulger wins the MVP award and then,just maybe this will all stop.
                            Last edited by jkramsfan; -08-18-2009, 05:46 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this ...

                              I think we are all just sick of losing and I can understand being worried however it's only pre-season...I think we should all start worrying about being ridiculous once the season actually starts! Can we all agree to that, please!?
                              Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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                                by iStillBelieve
                                So before I start I should say that I hate this board. I joined last year and after a few months couldn't stand it. For some reason the people on this board don't understand irony or sarcasm in any way. And once they form an opinion on something, they are either incapable or just too stubborn to listen to an opposing argument.

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                                Bulger and the Rams terrible play today just reminded me about how much I hate this board and I thought I would come here just to vent.

                                I know what everyone is gonna say, but I don't really care, because after this thread there is a good chance I won't be back again.
                                -09-13-2009, 04:29 PM
                              • NJ Ramsfan1
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                                by NJ Ramsfan1
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                                I'm certainly not talking about challenging someone's opinion- which is the way we generate discussion, offer viewpoints and talk over an issue. It's the picking apart of every word a person says and the intolerance shown by some in making their own point on an issue. Some of those who use the buzz phrases about "having patience", "being positive", "showing your loyalty", etc. also seem to feel that the best way to get their message across is to try to make the other person feel like an idiot.

                                Everyone on this forum has varying degrees of knowledge about the Rams- some more than others, depending on age, experience, etc. No one needs to be beaten over the head with an "I have more knowledge than you" post in tone, if not actual words.

                                I am one of many on the board whose opinions are occassionally rejected- which is fine if the criticisms are fair. I have occassionally used frustration in responding to someone I thought missed the boat completely- which is wrong. I include myself when I say that a better overall effort must be made to respond in kind to posts we don't necessarily agree with.

                                I think the losing has gotten to many of us.
                                -12-05-2009, 06:22 AM
                              • HUbison
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                                by HUbison
                                While we continue to bash on Bulger, as if he should be fluent in Linehanese after two weeks of immersion, it may be noteworthy to point out that in these two weeks he has accomplished something he has done only once before.

                                He has gone back to back games without throwing an interception. Other than weeks 3-4 of the '04 season, he has NEVER gone two consecutive weeks without a pick.

                                Is that the end-all, be-all of this new experiment? No, but it most certainly is a step in the right direction and possibly a building block to put this offense in motion.

                                Rome wasn't built in a day, and the Rams aren't going to be built in two weeks.
                                -09-21-2006, 08:56 AM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                The Post-Dispatch's "Ram Talk" Forum Represents the Worst of Rams "Fans"
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                                Like many of you, I venture over to the PD site on a fairly regular basis for Rams news.

                                Like some of you, I occasionally make the mistake of opening a thread or two on the "Rams Talk" forum.

                                Good Lord... those people are more full of crap than a broken porta-potty at a chili cookoff during a dysentery outbreak. The majority of them have no business calling themselves Rams fans at all.

                                I guess the best use of that forum is to show what real non-fans are like. Sure, we have our spats around here among the rose-colored glasses wearing optimists and the Chicken Little naysayers from time to time, but even the most extreme regulars here are mild salsa compared to the flaming vat of Tobasco over at the PD.

                                I'm not going to dignify any particular poster by naming him or her, but suffice to say there is an overwhelming majority of knee-jerk howler monkeys there who do little but scream about the Rams' problems while, at the same time, taking apparent joy in the vindication of their prior prognstications of doom. In the aggregate, their opinion seems to be that everyone on the team should be fired, cut or thrown into a pool of hungry sea bass outfitted with laser beams (and yes, they are ill-tempered).

                                Does any of this matter? I guess, in the grand scheme of things, the answer is "no." However, I will say this... given the PD's status as the Rams' primary home city news source, the presence of these morons does not reflect well on the team as a whole. We might not be the fan base of the Chicago Cubs, but there is a loyal, if long-suffering, core of Rams fans who prefer to at least be constructive in addressing the current state of affairs.

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                                If you read the (mostly negative) comments about Marc Bulger on this board, they merely mirror those on other site threads. At least this board has Rams fans on it who all share a common goal: to return to winning football.

                                An apologist is just as bad as someone who is always negative. The Rams made the decision to keep Bulger rather than Warner several years back and it was certainly an understandable decision. Bulger was younger, less expensive and played well, while Warner struggled. Fans, including me envisioned Bulger as an up and coming player who would give us continuity at the position and productive play.

                                Truth be told, Bulger has underachieved. Much of it can be attributed to a porous offensive line the past two years as well as a losing culture surrounding him- both perfectly legitimate reasons for his struggles. That said, he also has shown no propensity for overcoming obstacles or leading this team through the tough times. I envisioned a guy who might be the type of QB who eventually might be able to put a team on his back occasionally when the situation warrants it. Bulger isn't even close to having shown he's that type of player.

                                Let's recognize that Bulger's struggles are not all his fault- but let's also recognize that the excuses are getting old. He needs to stay healthy, be productive and lead this team, or he'll soon be benched and looking for work. The team invested a lot into him and the returns have been minimal. I've always liked him and want him to succeed, but I'm not spending this season on this board and elsewhere trying to justify poor performance.

                                Just get the job done. The team depends on it.
                                -08-18-2009, 02:04 PM
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