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  • I don't really know how to say this

    So I'll just say it, (with lots of disclaimers to follow;)).

    I think our first game this year is absolutely HUGE!

    If we win that game, (no matter how), it is going to go a long way towards INSTANTLY changing the mindset of our entire team. They have beat us eight straight, (some resoundingly and some squeakers), but eight nonetheless.

    We are getting no respect, (and don't deserve it); Seattle is, and is getting a pass for last year due to injuries, (which we never did, but that's yesterday's news), and it's on the road against (in my mind now), our most hated rival.

    I would go so far as to say, if we win, we are looking at a guaranteed 9 wins, and maybe more.

    (Disclaimer 1): If we lose, we'll win the predicted 5-6 games, which I really am OK with, given the state of the team when Spags took over.

    But I can just see Spags quietly, in his own intense way, telling the team after the game; "See...! See what happens when you focus and play with intensity, when you play as a team, when you pay attention to the little things, when you trust and believe in each other?"

    (Disclaimer 2) Again, if the Rams play well and lose, but can walk off the field with their heads up, and leave the Seahawks thinking, "those were not the Rams we've played the last 4 years", I'll be fine, and in no way will think the season's history.

    It's just that (IMO) winning would have an incredible impact on the team's attitude... that would stay with the team the whole year, and one that Spags could point to the whole season and say, "Remember opening day, on the road, against our fiercest rival, in a hostile environment...?"
    Last edited by VegasRam; -09-03-2009, 11:23 AM.

  • #2
    Re: I don't really know how to say this

    I agree with you, this game is huge. With how bad this team was last year, we need to come out of the gates in the lead. It would show them that this team is not even close to last years team.


    • #3
      Re: I don't really know how to say this

      I think our first game this year is absolutely HUGE!
      Couldn't agree more, Vegas. To walk out of Seattle with a "W" will be ginormous.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.


      • #4
        Re: I don't really know how to say this

        I can't argue with that. When you've lost as much as we have it is absolutely HUGE how we perform in the first game. If we get steamrolled on the ground for 300 yards and our offense sputters and can't produce a touchdown but settles for field goals no one is going to think "it's only one game" - everyone will be thinking "here we go again" and that's going to drag us down and hurt the team a lot mentally.

        The first game is H-U-G-E.


        • #5
          Re: I don't really know how to say this

          Agree !!

          Don't listen to the EXPERTS. Thier o-line is not what it was, (four sacks in 57 passes) and with thier big LT out, our new defense has a good chance of really getting to Brady Jr. Got to also remember that there is virtually NO FILM on this new defense. Not in regular season form that is. Lot's of tricks unrecorded come September 13th in Seattle !!!

          Maineram -


          • #6
            Re: I don't really know how to say this

            I think the biggest problem for the Rams in Seattle will be continuity. The o-line hasn't been together since the first week of camp. Donnie Avery has missed almost all of camp and Bulger still needs to develop timing with his new center and new receivers. Peyton Manning missed a lot of time in preseason last year and said it took half the season to catch up. He said even handoffs become trouble if you don't practice them. Throw in the fact this team is learning a new system.... If Seattle had these difficulties we'd be thrilled at the opportunity.


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            • laram0
              What do we think?
              by laram0
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              -10-27-2011, 11:01 AM
            • Dr. Defense
              Firing Spags is the wrong call
              by Dr. Defense
              Now before everyone jumps down my throat and says he needs to go for x,y,z reasons hear me out.

              Does he have game management flaws? YES. Is he partially responsible for the horrific play calling? YES. Are there things that he needs to change about his coaching style? YES.

              But here is what he DOESN'T need to change. The way he manages that locker room. I mean look at how we played yesterday. We could have very easily given up and just packed it in. Instead the team went out there and played their hearts for a guy that could possibly be coaching his last game. What does that say to you? How many games did you watch yesterday where there playoff implications, or through out this year for that matter ,where a player or team just gave up? This team has never stopped fighting for what has been labeled as a "dead man".

              We as fans are impatient. We want change and we want it yesterday, anything else is unacceptable. To a certain extent is that understandable? YES. But what we have to remember is that Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes teams time to build a good solid team. Look at the dominant teams in the league right now. Whats the one thing that they have in common? Stability. Whats the one thing that we don't have on this team? Stability. There is constant turn over and change. How can any team be expected to win when ever 3 years a new HC comes in, and every year either the OC or DC gets fired. The Patriots dominate every year because they bought in long term and believed that Bill was the guy, he turned it around, brought in his guys, and makes his SYSTEM work. How can we ever hope to win a season when every 3 years someone new comes in and wipes out the team to fill it up with his guys?

              We need to stop flinching and think things out. Let's buy into a long term plan for once. Yes Spags record is terrible. But you know what the record doesn't reflect? How this team is playing for him. When we had Linehan, the team never played this hard for him. No one can expect a good year when 1/4 of the team that is on the active roster was never in camp with us.

              In conclusion I think the guy deserves one more year. Let him prove that with time he can do it. And just some food for thought, everyone that's screaming for him to get fired; where was this outrage last season? If it wasn't there and it's merely because of this year, shouldn't it be excused because of the injuries that ravaged this team? I mean think about it for a minute, he went for 1-15 to 7-9 the next season. Doesn't that say something or count for something? I don't care if you had Vince Limbardi, Bill Cohwer, and Bill Billicheck on our sideline this past year. We couldn't have won anything with a bunch of guys that are practice squad on another team.
              -01-02-2012, 06:04 AM
            • VegasRam
              Just 'cuz I feel I have to write SOMETHING...
              by VegasRam
              I'm glad I'm not a (St. Louis) journalist. What do you write?

              Here's one for you. In their last game(s), the 7 teams that have 1 or 0 wins have been outscored 262 - 23. Average score: 37-3. Wow. Adios, parity. I'm definitely betting over the rest of the year. (Edit - Raiders have 2 wins - my bad)

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              Spags was disappointed in our 4th quarter? Really. One quarter out of 28, when you're down 35-6 against the (arguably) best team in football. I know he has to say that, and can even think it, but c'mon, get real.

              I can't help thinking that our injuries may just stem from a high level of effort and not lack of conditioning. (Do y'all think Tatupu and Paloamu aren't in shape?)

              How would you like to be Minnesota today? Merry Christmas, Pittsburgh.

              Now the "team has given up" rumors start. Maybe some of the players have, but I can't name any. And for those that do - see 'ya - which is the ONLY silver lining in this debacle. There ARE plenty of players who won't pack it in, and that's what Spags is looking for.

              I wish I was knowledgeable enough to bash Shurmer, but I just can't put it all on him. The Rams are not so much untalented as just plain young and inexperienced. It's just kind of a "perfect storm" scenario.

              Having said that, I'm definitely becoming somewhat cooler on Bulger. Just sayin'. (That means I don't want a response to that!);)And I wouldn't mind seeing Null for one whole (home) game. Why not?

              You know you're snake bit when your long-snapper gets injured. Damn!

              I don't know about the rest of you, (and I want to), but I don't really care if we beat Detroit. Big Whup.

              And we suck right now, so who really cares if we do or do not break TB's and Detroit's records. 1-15 or 0-16. What's the difference, really?

              And last but not least, this is not a negative post. Sometimes it just is what it is. (God, I hate that expression). I still love watching the Rams every week, and will continue to.

              They're doing the right thing - even though results are still going to be an (excruciatingly) long time coming.

              Cheers y'all - keep the faith.
              -10-26-2009, 11:28 AM
            • Varg6
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              by Varg6
              We are rebuilding. Who doesn't know that?

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              -11-16-2009, 07:01 AM
            • general counsel
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              by general counsel
              I dont know how to post a poll, but this seems like a good topic given the Rams pathetic performances to date this season. If i knew how to post a poll, the choices would be the following:

              Dont bother, the death watch has commenced and elvis has left the building (which includes he could be gone if we are 0-8)

              Personally, i really think he needs to win at least 6 any maybe 7 to keep his job and if the situation gets out of control past the next three weeks (ie if we lose to lousy divisional rivals in addition to the good teams) i will not be shocked if he is gone this year.

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              I also dont think all hope is lost at this point. Sure, it looks like a debacle of biblical magnitude. Sure, it looks like we can't pass protect or run block, score in the red zone, cover anyone down the field, or catch the ball, but other than that, we arent terrible! All 6 division games are winnable. Cleveland cincy are no better than we are. I still think 8-8 wins the division and if we can get just a little momentum we may beat one good team. I am not saying it will happen, and chances are higher that we wind up really lousy than 8-8, but i really believe its not out of the question. Our chances of beating green bay on the road are about the same as an outbreak of world peace, but i think we have a legit shot vs dallas. One win at a time guys.

              Your thoughts on spags, how many does he have to win to keep his job.

              ramming speed to all

              general counsel
              -10-03-2011, 09:16 PM