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  • I don't really know how to say this

    So I'll just say it, (with lots of disclaimers to follow;)).

    I think our first game this year is absolutely HUGE!

    If we win that game, (no matter how), it is going to go a long way towards INSTANTLY changing the mindset of our entire team. They have beat us eight straight, (some resoundingly and some squeakers), but eight nonetheless.

    We are getting no respect, (and don't deserve it); Seattle is, and is getting a pass for last year due to injuries, (which we never did, but that's yesterday's news), and it's on the road against (in my mind now), our most hated rival.

    I would go so far as to say, if we win, we are looking at a guaranteed 9 wins, and maybe more.

    (Disclaimer 1): If we lose, we'll win the predicted 5-6 games, which I really am OK with, given the state of the team when Spags took over.

    But I can just see Spags quietly, in his own intense way, telling the team after the game; "See...! See what happens when you focus and play with intensity, when you play as a team, when you pay attention to the little things, when you trust and believe in each other?"

    (Disclaimer 2) Again, if the Rams play well and lose, but can walk off the field with their heads up, and leave the Seahawks thinking, "those were not the Rams we've played the last 4 years", I'll be fine, and in no way will think the season's history.

    It's just that (IMO) winning would have an incredible impact on the team's attitude... that would stay with the team the whole year, and one that Spags could point to the whole season and say, "Remember opening day, on the road, against our fiercest rival, in a hostile environment...?"
    Last edited by VegasRam; -09-03-2009, 11:23 AM.

  • #2
    Re: I don't really know how to say this

    I agree with you, this game is huge. With how bad this team was last year, we need to come out of the gates in the lead. It would show them that this team is not even close to last years team.


    • #3
      Re: I don't really know how to say this

      I think our first game this year is absolutely HUGE!
      Couldn't agree more, Vegas. To walk out of Seattle with a "W" will be ginormous.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.


      • #4
        Re: I don't really know how to say this

        I can't argue with that. When you've lost as much as we have it is absolutely HUGE how we perform in the first game. If we get steamrolled on the ground for 300 yards and our offense sputters and can't produce a touchdown but settles for field goals no one is going to think "it's only one game" - everyone will be thinking "here we go again" and that's going to drag us down and hurt the team a lot mentally.

        The first game is H-U-G-E.


        • #5
          Re: I don't really know how to say this

          Agree !!

          Don't listen to the EXPERTS. Thier o-line is not what it was, (four sacks in 57 passes) and with thier big LT out, our new defense has a good chance of really getting to Brady Jr. Got to also remember that there is virtually NO FILM on this new defense. Not in regular season form that is. Lot's of tricks unrecorded come September 13th in Seattle !!!

          Maineram -


          • #6
            Re: I don't really know how to say this

            I think the biggest problem for the Rams in Seattle will be continuity. The o-line hasn't been together since the first week of camp. Donnie Avery has missed almost all of camp and Bulger still needs to develop timing with his new center and new receivers. Peyton Manning missed a lot of time in preseason last year and said it took half the season to catch up. He said even handoffs become trouble if you don't practice them. Throw in the fact this team is learning a new system.... If Seattle had these difficulties we'd be thrilled at the opportunity.


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            • laram0
              What do we think?
              by laram0
              Will Spags be fired this year?
              -10-27-2011, 11:01 AM
            • Dr. Defense
              Firing Spags is the wrong call
              by Dr. Defense
              Now before everyone jumps down my throat and says he needs to go for x,y,z reasons hear me out.

              Does he have game management flaws? YES. Is he partially responsible for the horrific play calling? YES. Are there things that he needs to change about his coaching style? YES.

              But here is what he DOESN'T need to change. The way he manages that locker room. I mean look at how we played yesterday. We could have very easily given up and just packed it in. Instead the team went out there and played their hearts for a guy that could possibly be coaching his last game. What does that say to you? How many games did you watch yesterday where there playoff implications, or through out this year for that matter ,where a player or team just gave up? This team has never stopped fighting for what has been labeled as a "dead man".

              We as fans are impatient. We want change and we want it yesterday, anything else is unacceptable. To a certain extent is that understandable? YES. But what we have to remember is that Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes teams time to build a good solid team. Look at the dominant teams in the league right now. Whats the one thing that they have in common? Stability. Whats the one thing that we don't have on this team? Stability. There is constant turn over and change. How can any team be expected to win when ever 3 years a new HC comes in, and every year either the OC or DC gets fired. The Patriots dominate every year because they bought in long term and believed that Bill was the guy, he turned it around, brought in his guys, and makes his SYSTEM work. How can we ever hope to win a season when every 3 years someone new comes in and wipes out the team to fill it up with his guys?

              We need to stop flinching and think things out. Let's buy into a long term plan for once. Yes Spags record is terrible. But you know what the record doesn't reflect? How this team is playing for him. When we had Linehan, the team never played this hard for him. No one can expect a good year when 1/4 of the team that is on the active roster was never in camp with us.

              In conclusion I think the guy deserves one more year. Let him prove that with time he can do it. And just some food for thought, everyone that's screaming for him to get fired; where was this outrage last season? If it wasn't there and it's merely because of this year, shouldn't it be excused because of the injuries that ravaged this team? I mean think about it for a minute, he went for 1-15 to 7-9 the next season. Doesn't that say something or count for something? I don't care if you had Vince Limbardi, Bill Cohwer, and Bill Billicheck on our sideline this past year. We couldn't have won anything with a bunch of guys that are practice squad on another team.
              -01-02-2012, 06:04 AM
            • laram0
              Better Days are coming
              by laram0
              It has been a frustrating start of the season for us RAMS fans.

              Our first game at Philly I really thought we had a chance at a win. Stupid me, we got buried.

              Our second game of the season at home against the defending Superbowl Champion Giants, I really thought we had a chance to win. Stupid me, we fell apart in the 4th quarter. Still thanks to our RAMS for playing tough for the first 3 quarters.

              Our third game is on the road at Seattle against the rival Seahawks. You guessed it right, I really feel like we have a chance to win.

              I also feel like we have a chance to win our 4th through 16th games.

              At least that's how feel every week leading up to one of our games.

              Bottom line for me is that we have waited since the 2007 regular season eneded to see our team play again. Wins are nice and what I expect but at least they're playing.

              GO RAMS!!!!!

              -09-19-2008, 07:15 AM
            • rNemesis
              My personal thoughts after the Rams-Cards game
              by rNemesis
              First off let me just say that after watching the game yesterday this is indeed not the SOSAR that we have been use to seeing the last three years but a team that can now compete. My initial thoughts ( not hopes) were that we would get blown out like last year I think it was, with no hope or real fire to score and make plays to win. But we didn't. Not this time. And hopefully not from here on. We showed that we are more competitive by getting adequate pressure on the QB, create a couple of turnovers, contain the run, but the pass D wasnt that great IMO. Nice job by Bartell on Fitz and I heard someone else say on this forum that the only TD he scored was on our zone D when we went away from man coverage. We just had our moments like the 2nd quarter drive by the Cards RB's Hightower andStephens- Howling. That was a killer drive. But the real momentum swinger for the Cards was that hustle play by Breaston to strip the ball away from a careless, 1-yd-away-from-the-end-zone Clifton Ryan. CMON RYAN ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

              All in all, too many missed opportunities like that are why we lost this game. We are not a great team lets face it. So what do not-great-teams do to win? They play smart, mistake free football because they know its their only chance to win because they cant really make plays otherwise. I was impressed with Bradford at the helm, I think we are set at that position for a long time. I was also impressed with Robbins again, as well as CJ Ah You.

              Let me tell you MY opinion. Spags is doing a great job with the little talent he has upfront bringing pressure. But he is not THAT great in playcalling or close game decisions, if any at all. He needs to step it up in that dept. Offensive playcalling is also horrendous at times. Robinson made me so sick with all those drops, Clayton too although he had an otherwise good game. He would have had a GREAT game if it werent for those ugly drops. We need to win next week against the Raiders, so we can have a huge confidence buildup to face other teams because we will not beat them if we cant beat Oakland. If we can just FIND A WAY, FIND A WAY to win that game I will be more than happy of our progress as an organization moving forward.

              This is definitely a team, as most mention, can win 5-6 games at the most. No more than that because there is just too many issues to overcome in one season but if we can get 5 wins I will know that we are headed in the right direction.

              I have some burning questions though. If we only win one-three games this year, will it be because -

              a) of a rookie QB, young overall team and inexperience, etc. You need a season for everyone to gel and learn the system? or

              b) no excuses Spags, Shurmur and co., you've had your time to turn things around but the results (Wins) are just not coming and its time for a change ?

              Do you think Stan kroenke is feeling all of this...
              -09-13-2010, 06:05 AM
            • rNemesis
              I dont see how a team could be so bad....
              by rNemesis
              YEt be better than our Rams.

              I mean I just dont get what it takes to win in this league man. I am just tired of hearing the SAME OLD RAMS talk from all these so called analysts and experts and whoever else. Whenever we are playing a great or good team, we never get the pick , and probably rightfully so. But whenever we play a bad team, no matter what their record is now, was then, or what they predict it to be this year, its like they always pick us to lose. I dont see how a team could lose 12 games a year yet be "better than us"

              I dont see how a team could be 2-14 yet be " better than us"

              I MEAN COME ON GUYS!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!!! BULLISH!!!! You cannot sit here and tell me that EVERY team in the league is "LEAPS AND BOUNDS" ahead of us and that " they only need a couple of pieces" yet " we have so many gaping holes'

              Let me tell you what I have been doing the past 3 painful years. I have been watching closely ( and understanding) what it takes to win in this league. I have watch us play every team in the NFL over that period, I think. And at some point you have to wonder " OK, when is this losing going to stop"? We have played everyone from the Colts and Saints straight down to the Lions and Chiefs. SO you sit and wonder after every loss if you are ever going to win because you see all the mistakes you make and all of the lack of impact players. Now all that is pretty much addressed, aside from a couple more positions, we have some good players on this team and we have STILL NOT won a game? BULLISH!!!

              NOW think about THAT my friends!! Think about why some other teams "suck" yet they can find a way to win some games. Why cant we?

              Biggest question I have ever tried to find the answer to, and probably also the most annoying. Dont tell me its because we have too many holes.
              -09-17-2010, 01:56 PM