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  • Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

    Being reported by Vanram on Turfshowtimes and Jim Thomas on the Post-Dispatch.

    It's being reported that DT Adam Carriker will need surgery on the shoulder he injured last night in preseason play against the Chiefs...the same should he injured in his rookie season.
    That will likely put him out for the 2009 season, to say nothing of where it puts his career.
    I'd say this is a major blow to the Rams, but they obviously weren't counting on Carriker at this point anyway, not since he got demoted to the second team upon his return from an ankle injury...the same ankle he injured last year and in college.
    That makes the Rams DT lineup for the final roster Clifton Ryan, Gary Gibson, Darell Scott, and Hollis Thomas. I'd be shocked and awed if they don't add some talent at DT before the season starts, whether by waiting for roster cuts or trade.



    This is awful news. We will now obviously look hard at the waiver wire and maybe a possible trade. There are some really good DT prospects in next years draft, and as much as some people want to draft a first round QB, it looks like the defensive line will be addressed first with a pure defensive tackle prospect, unlike Carriker.
    Last edited by codeman123; -09-04-2009, 03:55 PM.

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    Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

    Who knows?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the beauty of this team is that we are young and mysterious. As the season progresses we are going to see who the real players are. Who's going to step up? We can only pray that Scott will wind up being a gem, and Thomas can give us a solid year or two. As for Ryan and Gibson, I think we might see a solid year out of both of them. As usual for the Rams, if we need a certain position to really step up, it's in the trenches of both sides of the ball, unfortunately.
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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    • #3
      Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

      Here's the PD article...

      Rams DT Adam Carriker needs shoulder surgery
      By Jim Thomas
      St. Louis Post-Dispatch
      09.04.2009 3:58 pm

      The injury woes continue for Rams defensive tackle Adam Carriker. Thursday night against Kansas City, in his first preseason game of the summer, Carriker suffered an injury to his right shoulder.

      League sources told the Post-Dispatch on Friday afternoon that Carriker will need surgery on the shoulder, and that the injury could be season ending. Carriker previously had suffered an injury in the same shoulder in the 2007 season finale at Arizona that required surgery. The recovery and rehab from that injury slowed him at the start of last season.

      Carriker had missed the first three preseason games this year because of an ankle injury suffered in an August 7 scrimmage at Lindenwood Univeristy, Gary Gibson has been starting in Carriker’s place.
      Carriker really seems like a guy who gives it his all and has a great work ethic, but for the life of him, he just can't stay healthy. Carriker is signed through 2011, so it's entirely possible that the Rams can throw him on IR and see if he can contribute next year.

      That being said, I think it would be foolish for this team, after the season is over, to not look towards some additional help at the DT position. I'd love to see Carriker turn it around and become a force, but he just hasn't been able to stay on the field, let alone play at a high level when he can.

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      • #4
        Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

        its bad for us..but i really feel for AC...almost everything that has happened to him since prior to being drafted has been out of his control.

        1.being drafted by a 4-3 team when he should have been drafted to play end in a 3-4.
        2.Having Linehan as his HC a HC with the personality of a goldfish amongst sharks
        3.Having a DC who didnt know how to utilize his skill set.
        4.Injury after Injury
        5.burden of being drafted so high with all the expectations that he could only have possibly lived up to if he had played DE in a 3-4..
        6.Injury after Injury after Injury..

        as for the Rams..we can stop trying to fit a square peg into a round hole..i think it wont effect us as much as it will AC..
        Last edited by Ramblin` Ram; -09-04-2009, 04:27 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

          Right now its looking to be McCoy in 2010.
          I guess the debate is Gerald or Colt.

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          • #6
            Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

            BAD news. Carriker just seems snakebitten when it comes to his body holding up. I can only imagine how frustrated he must feel.

            Even if he wasn't going to start, he would have been an integral part of the rotation. Hopefully someone steps up and takes advantage of an opportunity.

            I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do under Spags, especially after watching him get used as an ongoing experiment by Haslett and Linehan, never really getting a chance to settle into a consistent role.

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            • #7
              Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

              He just can't stay healthy. I think we should just cut him and move on. Why put him on IR? Chances are pretty good he wouldn't be able to stay healthy next year either.

              I hate it, as I think he could have been something really special, but it's time to move on.

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              • #8
                Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                Originally posted by ScottD413 View Post
                He just can't stay healthy. I think we should just cut him and move on. Why put him on IR? Chances are pretty good he wouldn't be able to stay healthy next year either.

                I hate it, as I think he could have been something really special, but it's time to move on.
                I imagine if the Rams decide to cut him after finding out about his injured, they'll have to come to some kind of injury settlement as part of the process. He's still signed for two more seasons; I'm not sure what harm it does to put him on IR and see where he is next spring, though I definitely wouldn't count on him being much of a factor until he demonstrates otherwise.

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                • #9
                  Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                  Man that's some draft choices we've made - how many years will the curse of Zygmunt & Linehan follow this team? You can say we couldn't predict the injury but honestly was he ever going to be any good (for his draft position) playing DT in the 4-3? It was the wrong pick even without the injuries IMO.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                    Darn!! Didn't he just get back from and ankle injury. It is especially hard to loose him on the last pre season game when our First Team defense has looked atrocious at times against the run.

                    I say throw the rookie Scott in the fire right off the bat, along with Ryan and lets see what these young guys can do. I don't have alot of Faith in Gibson or Hollis Thomas, so lets progress the young guys.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                      Geez. Throw him on IR and lets see what he can do next year. Can't whine about this injury though, we have a game to play.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                        Name a single nfl team with a worse defensive line than the rams. Just one.

                        ramming speed to all

                        general counsel

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                        • #13
                          Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                          Originally posted by general counsel View Post
                          Name a single nfl team with a worse defensive line than the rams. Just one.

                          ramming speed to all

                          general counsel
                          detroit lions

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                          • #14
                            Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                            Cut him lose. He doesn't improve our line. No sense hanging onto dead weight that's just waiting for his next injury.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season

                              I think he was really falling down the depth chart as it was, now hes done. I don't think spags was high on him at all, too small.

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                              • Tony Soprano
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                                There have been hints that things were terribly wrong with the Ram's organization since Linehan was brought in, but one that stands out is the use of Carriker as a Nose Tackle.

                                Number 1, Big Run Stuffers (one dimensional) aren't that hard to come by - they just aren't. I can name a bunch that have been taken in Round 3 and later.

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                                If you put Carriker is say Chicago's system as a DT, he's a player the offense will have to account for.

                                I am ready to move on to a new coaching staff and front office and I'm sure that Carriker is too.

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                                That's right. There has not been a single public comment on the subject. The closest comment was Spags' statement that Carriker would have to earn back his starting job. That's not the same as Carriker being on the verge of being cut.

                                Nonetheless, the press and fans are whipping themselves into a frenzy.

                                I find it almost comical. Four weeks ago, Carriker was a returning starter that was thought to be a guy who would benefit greatly from Spags' system. Since then, he's been out with a short-term injury. That's right - he's been out. He hasn't been on field playing badly (like Tye Hill) or ept on the sidelines despite being ready to play (like Klop). He's been injured.

                                The only way I can see Carriker not on the Rams on opening day is if another team offers really good trade value. Otherwise, I expect that Carriker will be a major part of the DL rotation, and probably a starter, by opening day.
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